| Where are you politically? |
| Liberal |
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12% |
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| Conservative |
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9% |
[ 10 ] |
| Moderate |
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6% |
[ 7 ] |
| Socialist |
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12% |
[ 13 ] |
| Libertarian |
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14% |
[ 15 ] |
| Authoritarian |
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0% |
[ 1 ] |
| Anarchist |
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4% |
[ 5 ] |
| Communist |
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2% |
[ 3 ] |
| Centrist |
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4% |
[ 5 ] |
| Mixture of a few |
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19% |
[ 20 ] |
| Other |
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8% |
[ 9 ] |
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donnie_darko
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| I'm gonna say anarchist but it's not completely accurate. I support a sort of state just one organized from the bottom up. |
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AstroGeek
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| Chipshorter wrote: | | all for kicking Canada out of the Commonwealth. |
For what reason? Our deplorable record on climate change action? The way we've ghettoized First Nations? Those would be the big two reasons I can think of, although I'm sure that there are others. |
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Tequila
Trust the people!
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Location: Lancashire, UK
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| AstroGeek wrote: | | For what reason? Our deplorable record on climate change action? The way we've ghettoized First Nations? Those would be the big two reasons I can think of, although I'm sure that there are others. |
Celline Dion! |
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Tequila
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| puddingmouse wrote: | | I don't think it's deliberate national sabotage. I assume stupidity rather than malice in most cases, this is no exception. |
Why the obsession with stifling all debate then? |
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Mummy_of_Peanut
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In the UK, there is no political party that I can say represents my beliefs. I was a Labour supporter, but Labour is no longer what they were and, any time they attempt to be that party again, they are criticised for it. I will vote for them again, if they go back to being clearly left wing. Meantime, I'll vote Scottish Nationalist, not because I really want an independent Scotland (I'm undecided on that), but because their other policies are closer to my way of thinking than the other parties' policies. E.g. they've arranged the budget to keep further education free, which is fine by me. If I'm honest, I really am a communist, in the idealist (or hippy) sense of the word, not the twisted version that the world ended up with. But, it's pie in the sky, the world of sci-fi and I'm also a realist.
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donnie_darko
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:33 am Post subject: |
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| Mummy_of_Peanut wrote: | | If I'm honest, I really am a communist, in the idealist (or hippy) sense of the word, not the twisted version that the world ended up with. But, it's pie in the sky, the world of sci-fi and I'm also a realist. |
Why is capitalism the only realistic option? Quite to the contrary, this economic crisis is more of a true failure of capitalism than the events of 1989 were of communism. |
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scubasteve
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| Raptor wrote: | | scubasteve wrote: | | Tequila wrote: | | scubasteve wrote: | | He's American. It doesn't mean that here. |
I wouldn't use it because people - on the left - will use that as a slur. Calling someone "far-right" when they aren't is a pretty serious insult here. |
That's interesting to note. I'll be careful never to use the term in Britain.
In America though it just means "very conservative" and is not considered an insult. For that, we would use the terms "nazi" or "fascist", as both the left and the right have unfortunately been known to do. |
The left thinks the right are all nazis and the right thinks the left are all communists. |
Only for some reason, the right compares Obama to Hitler rather than Stalin. [shrugs] |
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puddingmouse
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| Tequila wrote: | | puddingmouse wrote: | | I don't think it's deliberate national sabotage. I assume stupidity rather than malice in most cases, this is no exception. |
Why the obsession with stifling all debate then? |
Head in the sand? I think it's a case of:
'This seems like a good idea'...
'Oh sh**, they're doing honour killings and hating on gays! I didn't think that would happen'...
'Quick, call anyone who criticises this stuff racist, so that we don't lose face.'
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Tequila
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| puddingmouse wrote: | | Head in the sand?' |
If that really is the case, how do we get past that though, so that genuine nasty stuff doesn't happen and the likes of Wilders don't come to power?
I think actually believing in freedom would be a big start. By facing these people down. |
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puddingmouse
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| Tequila wrote: | | puddingmouse wrote: | | Head in the sand?' |
If that really is the case, how do we get past that though, so that genuine nasty stuff doesn't happen and the likes of Wilders don't come to power?
I think actually believing in freedom would be a big start. By facing these people down. |
I don't know what to suggest, other than the social liberals in this country growing a pair and being intellectually honest.
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Mummy_of_Peanut
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| donnie_darko wrote: | | Mummy_of_Peanut wrote: | | If I'm honest, I really am a communist, in the idealist (or hippy) sense of the word, not the twisted version that the world ended up with. But, it's pie in the sky, the world of sci-fi and I'm also a realist. |
Why is capitalism the only realistic option? Quite to the contrary, this economic crisis is more of a true failure of capitalism than the events of 1989 were of communism. |
Maybe my dreams will become reality. But, given that my 6yr old daughter has just been given a homework exercise aimed at promoting capitalism, my hope for the future is taking a blow. Are you up for a revolution? 
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donnie_darko
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:51 am Post subject: |
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| Donny_Darko wrote: | | Why is capitalism the only realistic option? Quite to the contrary, this economic crisis is more of a true failure of capitalism than the events of 1989 were of communism. |
| Mummy_of_Peanut wrote: | | Maybe my dreams will become reality. But, given that my 6yr old daughter has just been given a homework exercise aimed at promoting capitalism, my hope for the future is taking a blow. Are you up for a revolution? |
why yes of course In all seriousness though, communism is making a huge comeback. People declared it dead in the 1990s, but now that capitalism seems to be in dire straits, and people are realizing the Soviets were never true communists to begin with, is it REALLY proven wrong?
[Edit by mod - I'm trying to fix the quotes so it's obvious who they are by - Mummy_of_Peanut] |
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Chipshorter
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Age: 34
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:54 am Post subject: |
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| AstroGeek wrote: | | Chipshorter wrote: | | all for kicking Canada out of the Commonwealth. |
For what reason? Our deplorable record on climate change action? The way we've ghettoized First Nations? Those would be the big two reasons I can think of, although I'm sure that there are others. |
Them plus the attitude change over the last ten years with Canadans I deal with, you people are not Anglophiles like you use to be your more arrogant like the Yanks, Canada now is just a whatanabe America.
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Chipshorter
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:00 am Post subject: |
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| Tequila wrote: | | AstroGeek wrote: | | For what reason? Our deplorable record on climate change action? The way we've ghettoized First Nations? Those would be the big two reasons I can think of, although I'm sure that there are others. |
Celline Dion! |
 She's a perfect reason to nuke Canada, now please give me the Trident go codes as I'll happily press the red button 
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noname_ever
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| scubasteve wrote: | | Raptor wrote: | | scubasteve wrote: | | Tequila wrote: | | scubasteve wrote: | | He's American. It doesn't mean that here. |
I wouldn't use it because people - on the left - will use that as a slur. Calling someone "far-right" when they aren't is a pretty serious insult here. |
That's interesting to note. I'll be careful never to use the term in Britain.
In America though it just means "very conservative" and is not considered an insult. For that, we would use the terms "nazi" or "fascist", as both the left and the right have unfortunately been known to do. |
The left thinks the right are all nazis and the right thinks the left are all communists. |
Only for some reason, the right compares Obama to Hitler rather than Stalin. [shrugs] |
It depends how you model him. On politicalcompass, Obama is definitely closer to Hitler (a centrist economically) than Stalin. |
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