| Where are you politically? |
| Liberal |
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12% |
[ 13 ] |
| Conservative |
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9% |
[ 10 ] |
| Moderate |
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6% |
[ 7 ] |
| Socialist |
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12% |
[ 13 ] |
| Libertarian |
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14% |
[ 15 ] |
| Authoritarian |
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0% |
[ 1 ] |
| Anarchist |
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4% |
[ 5 ] |
| Communist |
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2% |
[ 3 ] |
| Centrist |
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4% |
[ 5 ] |
| Mixture of a few |
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19% |
[ 20 ] |
| Other |
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8% |
[ 9 ] |
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Kraichgauer
Phoenix
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Age: 47
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| auntblabby wrote: | i can be bothered to think of people as unevolved and evil if they enthusiastically support punitive public policies which disenfranchise the working class of which i belong. i can nominally respect those self-appointed overlords if only they were at least upfront about their class warfare against people they perceive as beneath them, instead of hiding behind disingenuous blather about "voter fraud" and such. IOW, the high mucketymucks and their useful fauxnews idiots should stop peeing on my leg and then telling me it's only raining.  |
That, too, is absolutely my feelings.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
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auntblabby
Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief
Joined: Feb 13, 2010
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Location: the island of loveable toy humans
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:21 am Post subject: |
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| Kraichgauer wrote: | | auntblabby wrote: | | i can be bothered to think of people as unevolved and evil if they enthusiastically support punitive public policies which disenfranchise the working class of which i belong. i can nominally respect those self-appointed overlords if only they were at least upfront about their class warfare against people they perceive as beneath them, instead of hiding behind disingenuous blather about "voter fraud" and such. IOW, the high mucketymucks and their useful fauxnews idiots should stop peeing on my leg and then telling me it's only raining. |
That, too, is absolutely my feelings.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
i am glad at least you are in my corner  |
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Kraichgauer
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Age: 47
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:30 am Post subject: |
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| auntblabby wrote: | | Kraichgauer wrote: | | auntblabby wrote: | | i can be bothered to think of people as unevolved and evil if they enthusiastically support punitive public policies which disenfranchise the working class of which i belong. i can nominally respect those self-appointed overlords if only they were at least upfront about their class warfare against people they perceive as beneath them, instead of hiding behind disingenuous blather about "voter fraud" and such. IOW, the high mucketymucks and their useful fauxnews idiots should stop peeing on my leg and then telling me it's only raining. |
That, too, is absolutely my feelings.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
i am glad at least you are in my corner |
Hey, madmen think alike! 
But seriously, I'm certain I'm not the only one who agrees with you.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
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ruveyn
Phoenix
Joined: Sep 22, 2008
Age: 76
Posts: 29275
Location: New Jersey
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:34 am Post subject: |
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Some day the Bulls win. Some days the Bears win. But the Pigs always come out ahead.
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Kraichgauer
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Age: 47
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| ruveyn wrote: | Some day the Bulls win. Some days the Bears win. But the Pigs always come out ahead.
ruveyn |
As I think the use of folksy sayings escapes an Aspie like me, you may have to explain that one.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
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ruveyn
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Age: 76
Posts: 29275
Location: New Jersey
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| Kraichgauer wrote: | | ruveyn wrote: | Some day the Bulls win. Some days the Bears win. But the Pigs always come out ahead.
ruveyn |
As I think the use of folksy sayings escapes an Aspie like me, you may have to explain that one.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
Bull market (expanding optimistic market). Bear market (pessimistic down market). Pigs, the conventional symbol of greed. The greedy s.o.b. types always come out ahead.
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Kraichgauer
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Age: 47
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:00 am Post subject: |
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| ruveyn wrote: | | Kraichgauer wrote: | | ruveyn wrote: | Some day the Bulls win. Some days the Bears win. But the Pigs always come out ahead.
ruveyn |
As I think the use of folksy sayings escapes an Aspie like me, you may have to explain that one.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
Bull market (expanding optimistic market). Bear market (pessimistic down market). Pigs, the conventional symbol of greed. The greedy s.o.b. types always come out ahead.
ruveyn |
Oh! Okay! I don't see how I couldn't have grasped that! 
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
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Joker
Sinn Fein
Joined: Mar 20, 2011
Age: 24
Posts: 7593
Location: North Carolina The Tar Heel State :)
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I do belive during the Ronald Reagan ear in America people always belived that greed is good but thats just a fallacy . |
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Kraichgauer
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Age: 47
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Joker wrote: | | I do belive during the Ronald Reagan ear in America people always belived that greed is good but thats just a fallacy . |
Well, Gordon Gecko and his real life counterparts then and today certainly thought - and think - so.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
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Joker
Sinn Fein
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Age: 24
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Location: North Carolina The Tar Heel State :)
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Kraichgauer wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | I do belive during the Ronald Reagan ear in America people always belived that greed is good but thats just a fallacy . |
Well, Gordon Gecko and his real life counterparts then and today certainly thought - and think - so.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
Yeah america is all about greed it seems but I am greedy when it comes to sex but not so much when it comes to money. |
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Kraichgauer
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Age: 47
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| Joker wrote: | | Kraichgauer wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | I do belive during the Ronald Reagan ear in America people always belived that greed is good but thats just a fallacy . |
Well, Gordon Gecko and his real life counterparts then and today certainly thought - and think - so.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
Yeah america is all about greed it seems but I am greedy when it comes to sex but not so much when it comes to money. |
Amen, Aspie brother!
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
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jojobean
sacred clown
Joined: Aug 13, 2009
Posts: 3341
Location: In Georgia sipping a virgin pina' colada while the rest of the world is drunk
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:47 am Post subject: |
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I am really all over the map politically.
more of an individualist...lean more so to the left though.
However I do have some conservative beliefs....gun rights, death penalty for the worst criminals (however only with positive DNA evidence)
I been told that I am so far left that I am right.
Like the rest of me, my political beliefs are a complex mystery wrapped in an enigma. 
Jojo
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enrico_dandolo
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Joined: Nov 21, 2011
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| auntblabby wrote: | | i can be bothered to think of people as unevolved and evil if they enthusiastically support punitive public policies which disenfranchise the working class of which i belong. i can nominally respect those self-appointed overlords if only they were at least upfront about their class warfare against people they perceive as beneath them, instead of hiding behind disingenuous blather about "voter fraud" and such. IOW, the high mucketymucks and their useful fauxnews idiots should stop peeing on my leg and then telling me it's only raining. |
In the Middle Ages, the nobility was obviously positionned above the majority of the population. It held almost all political powers, at least in rural areas, all completely open and justified as the unalterable order given by God.
Yet for all that, I always feel, when comparing them to their peasants, that they were much closer to each other than our ruling class is from our lower class. |
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Joker
Sinn Fein
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Location: North Carolina The Tar Heel State :)
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Kraichgauer wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | Kraichgauer wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | I do belive during the Ronald Reagan ear in America people always belived that greed is good but thats just a fallacy . |
Well, Gordon Gecko and his real life counterparts then and today certainly thought - and think - so.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
Yeah america is all about greed it seems but I am greedy when it comes to sex but not so much when it comes to money. |
Amen, Aspie brother!
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
Thank you my fellow Aspie |
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Kraichgauer
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Age: 47
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| enrico_dandolo wrote: | | auntblabby wrote: | | i can be bothered to think of people as unevolved and evil if they enthusiastically support punitive public policies which disenfranchise the working class of which i belong. i can nominally respect those self-appointed overlords if only they were at least upfront about their class warfare against people they perceive as beneath them, instead of hiding behind disingenuous blather about "voter fraud" and such. IOW, the high mucketymucks and their useful fauxnews idiots should stop peeing on my leg and then telling me it's only raining. |
In the Middle Ages, the nobility was obviously positionned above the majority of the population. It held almost all political powers, at least in rural areas, all completely open and justified as the unalterable order given by God.
Yet for all that, I always feel, when comparing them to their peasants, that they were much closer to each other than our ruling class is from our lower class. |
Absolutely. The nobles always lived close to their rural peasantry, and always interacted with them. In some cases, the nobles may have been so poor that they lived little better, but were still given the respect their social rank demanded. Today, the wealthy can - and do - live separate and apart from the rest of us. Just consider how George Bush I, and now Romney appear so awkward in public among "commoners."
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
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