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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:13 am Post subject:

My issue with today's pop is actually that it's not pop enough. It lacks melody, the key element of pop, and much of it just sounds like noise. The stuff that does have melody, often has extremely boring changes. You know, something like 'Someone Like You' by Adele or 'Use Somebody' by Kings of Leon. There's hardly any songs about love anymore, it's usually about partying, sex or breakups.

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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:16 am Post subject:

I actually dislike today's pop for the SAME reasons I dislike punk, hip hop and metal. It's not melodic/catchy enough, it sounds like noise, and it's too full of negativity. Please bring back new wave, synthpop or at least 60s/70s singer-songwriter pop and epic ballads.

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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:17 am Post subject:

NathanealWest wrote:

I think the meaning of laconvienca's argument is not so much about pop culture. It's about the cognitive patterns of isolation and the toll that it may take on your identity.

and forcing myself to enjoy popular music of today and things associated with it is supposed to help my identity? I don't identify with that sort of music I prefer music I can relate to and that I enjoy listening to.
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:23 am Post subject:

donnie_darko wrote:

I actually dislike today's pop for the SAME reasons I dislike punk, hip hop and metal. It's not melodic/catchy enough, it sounds like noise, and it's too full of negativity. Please bring back new wave, synthpop or at least 60s/70s singer-songwriter pop and epic ballads.

I really see what punk or metal has in common with the mainstream crap that gets played on MTV or the radio, though there is plenty of crappy metal and punk but even that does not annoy me as much as things like Bieber, Lady Gaga, that overplayed dub-step catastrophe, brokencyde, or that horrible hip hop(if you can even call it that) on MTV.
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: Why is it so wrong to like pop music?

MathGirl wrote:

I listen to pop music when I'm alone, but I'm afraid to share my music tastes because most people in my social sphere disapprove.

Yes, I listen to Ke$ha, Lady Gaga, Britney Spears, and the like. I tried exploring different genres. I like some upbeat classical music, too, but it takes a lot of focus to listen to because it's really intricate (and with a busy schedule, I rarely have time to be able to do this). Pop music is simple and repetitive, making for good background music. Also, I enjoy the energy that pop music has. I don't know. It's addictive and I can't explain it. I just want to listen to more and more of it. It really matches my mood, which is usually hyper and energetic aside from when I'm depressed.

But people keep telling me that I should listen to stuff that's either too depressing, does not have enough beat, or is not repetitive enough. So I keep my mouth shut about my music preferences. I don't know what to do about this, though. It's so constricting, especially when everyone in a room is talking about music and I have nothing to say because I'm afraid to share.

I also like Pop music like Brittney and Kesha , i like up beat music that can be considered dance too. When i listen to this music i get mentally stimulated and its very entertaining . I think it could be the energy of it. I dont know why many people do not like pop i wonder this a lot too , many genres i like people do not like either. ...listen to what makes you feel well despite others opinions

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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:13 pm Post subject:

donnie_darko wrote:

AMEN.
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:56 am Post subject:

donnie_darko wrote:

My issue with today's pop is actually that it's not pop enough. It lacks melody, the key element of pop, and much of it just sounds like noise.

Thank you thank you thank you, I've been saying it for YEARS.

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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:02 am Post subject:

There is nothing wrong with liking pop and mainstream music, I would encourage aspies to like pop and mainstream music, because it has done me alot of good.

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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:45 am Post subject:

I've already tried and everything I heard is a banal noise, extremely uncomfortable to listen to and often bordering on the painful. [Gah. It's "spot the typo" day!] _________________ Giraffe: a ruminant with a view. Last edited by Cornflake on Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:42 am; edited 1 time in total

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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:58 am Post subject:

Laconvivencia wrote:

There is nothing wrong with liking pop and mainstream music, I would encourage aspies to like pop and mainstream music, because it has done me alot of good.

but it makes me want to rip my ears off and burn them.
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:26 pm Post subject:

I take no issue with pop. It appeals to the synthesist in me, and honestly rap music happens to be the most innovative mainstream musical style right now. I didn't say I was a big FAN of rap...I just mean that what hip-hop artists and pop artists influenced by them are always a little bit ahead of the game when it comes to what they're doing with sound. I can appreciate Ke$sha and Lady Gaga for that reason. But I dislike Spears for the reason that she's more about selling an image rather than selling music. All pop artists do this to a degree, but if the talent just isn't there then the image certainly isn't going to convince me that the artist has any real credibility. There's nothing "wrong" with liking pop any more than there's anything "wrong" with liking classic rock or classical. I think it's harmful to judge an average listener based on musical taste. But if you want to know what's "wrong" about pop music in general, it's this: Pop artists and their producers are only concerned about their bottom line. Their concern will either be about gauging an audience's reaction OR influencing trends in their favor. Artistically speaking, a mainstream audience taste leans heavily conservative. That causes a feedback loop. 1. Audience demand for conservative, non-innovative commercialized music 2. Record companies deliver, gauge audience reaction 3. Current trends create further demand for conservative, non-innovative commercialized music, go back to 2. Take 80s metal, for instance. You had optimistic, party-driven bands based in LA that dominated that particular market. Sure, you had a FEW bands from Seattle, but you didn't really hear from them. Once Nirvana started getting some airplay, the record companies realized they were in trouble since stylistically they'd become stagnant. So they all jumped on the bandwagon and alt rock dominated the market--which remained largely unchanged until the rise of nu-metal. The 80s sound has largely come back as people slowly emerged from grunge after about 15 years. But it took over a decade for people to realize "hey, this sucks!" But what will happen is you start seeing more artists imitating Lady Gaga, which will start out (it's already begun, really, and we'll figure that out in the next, say, 5-7 years) innocent enough with a few pop artists following in her footsteps. But, just like happened early on in the 80s, it will become more about image and people will get bored with the kitschy fashion. Give it another 10 years and female artists will start looking like Annie Lennox. Mainstream commercial pop KILLS innovation because it encourages cookie-cutter lyric-writing and abysmal instrumental arranging. There is such a lack of variety within that segment of the music business. Listen to it all you want, but if you want some truly good well-rounded listening within the commercial sphere, throw in some Deadmau5 and Skrillex from time to time. It's enjoyable music, not TOO mind-blowing, but still adds a little forward-looking balance to your musical diet.

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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:59 am Post subject:

Pop is good over ice on a hot day. Any other time though just seems overindulgent. _________________ MrXxx is taking a long sabbatical, and no longer moderating.

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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:53 am Post subject:

It's wrong because of the contract that every pop artist signs with the devil: Satan persuades the masses to enjoy this music, and uses his contacts at MTV to provide them airtime. In return, every pop artist must sacrifice 100 adorable kittens each month, or they will fade into obscurity... Don't worry, it's not your fault. You didn't know. It's a shame about all those poor kittens, though.

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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:06 am Post subject:

scubasteve wrote:

It's wrong because of the contract that every pop artist signs with the devil: Satan persuades the masses to enjoy this music, and uses his contacts at MTV to provide them airtime. In return, every pop artist must sacrifice 100 adorable kittens each month, or they will fade into obscurity...

Don't worry, it's not your fault. You didn't know. It's a shame about all those poor kittens, though.

What you said is blasphemy!!! There is nothing wrong with liking pop.