Joker
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| Sweetleaf wrote: | | Jacoby wrote: | I'm sure people that believe in the theory of fascism don't believe it's disastrous results either.
The idea that communism is really for some stateless egalitarian society is ridiculous since how do you achieve that? You can not change human nature and you can not stamp out free will. |
How is that ridiculous, that is what communism is.... whether its possible to put it into practice is another matter. |
Its more possible to put fascism into action then communsim. |
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Sweetleaf
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| Joker wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | Jacoby wrote: | I'm sure people that believe in the theory of fascism don't believe it's disastrous results either.
The idea that communism is really for some stateless egalitarian society is ridiculous since how do you achieve that? You can not change human nature and you can not stamp out free will. |
How is that ridiculous, that is what communism is.... whether its possible to put it into practice is another matter. |
Its more possible to put fascism into action then communsim. |
obviously.
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Joker
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| Sweetleaf wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | Jacoby wrote: | I'm sure people that believe in the theory of fascism don't believe it's disastrous results either.
The idea that communism is really for some stateless egalitarian society is ridiculous since how do you achieve that? You can not change human nature and you can not stamp out free will. |
How is that ridiculous, that is what communism is.... whether its possible to put it into practice is another matter. |
Its more possible to put fascism into action then communsim. |
obviously. |
Communism is to much of a utopia of a political idea Fascim how ever would work really well in america. |
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Sweetleaf
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| Joker wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | Jacoby wrote: | I'm sure people that believe in the theory of fascism don't believe it's disastrous results either.
The idea that communism is really for some stateless egalitarian society is ridiculous since how do you achieve that? You can not change human nature and you can not stamp out free will. |
How is that ridiculous, that is what communism is.... whether its possible to put it into practice is another matter. |
Its more possible to put fascism into action then communsim. |
obviously. |
Communism is to much of a utopia of a political idea Fascim how ever would work really well in america. |
How so? I kind of like the constitution and would prefer not to give it up for less rights, more oppression and possible genocide of any undesirables.
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Joker
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| Sweetleaf wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | Jacoby wrote: | I'm sure people that believe in the theory of fascism don't believe it's disastrous results either.
The idea that communism is really for some stateless egalitarian society is ridiculous since how do you achieve that? You can not change human nature and you can not stamp out free will. |
How is that ridiculous, that is what communism is.... whether its possible to put it into practice is another matter. |
Its more possible to put fascism into action then communsim. |
obviously. |
Communism is to much of a utopia of a political idea Fascim how ever would work really well in america. |
How so? I kind of like the constitution and would prefer not to give it up for less rights, more oppression and possible genocide of any undesirables. |
Because of all the insurance companies and corperations in america Fascism is really just corperationism because it is the merger of starte and corperate power. |
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Sweetleaf
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| Joker wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | Jacoby wrote: | I'm sure people that believe in the theory of fascism don't believe it's disastrous results either.
The idea that communism is really for some stateless egalitarian society is ridiculous since how do you achieve that? You can not change human nature and you can not stamp out free will. |
How is that ridiculous, that is what communism is.... whether its possible to put it into practice is another matter. |
Its more possible to put fascism into action then communsim. |
obviously. |
Communism is to much of a utopia of a political idea Fascim how ever would work really well in america. |
How so? I kind of like the constitution and would prefer not to give it up for less rights, more oppression and possible genocide of any undesirables. |
Because of all the insurance companies and corperations in america Fascism is really just corperationism because it is the merger of starte and corperate power. |
True, but facism is horrible so I don't see why anyone would want it to be instated.
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Joker
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| Sweetleaf wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | Jacoby wrote: | I'm sure people that believe in the theory of fascism don't believe it's disastrous results either.
The idea that communism is really for some stateless egalitarian society is ridiculous since how do you achieve that? You can not change human nature and you can not stamp out free will. |
How is that ridiculous, that is what communism is.... whether its possible to put it into practice is another matter. |
Its more possible to put fascism into action then communsim. |
obviously. |
Communism is to much of a utopia of a political idea Fascim how ever would work really well in america. |
How so? I kind of like the constitution and would prefer not to give it up for less rights, more oppression and possible genocide of any undesirables. |
Because of all the insurance companies and corperations in america Fascism is really just corperationism because it is the merger of starte and corperate power. |
True, but facism is horrible so I don't see why anyone would want it to be instated. |
Democracy can be just as horable if the senate and congress and the president all agreed on the same issues and how the country is to be ran its a good thing they are always fighting imagen if they all could agree on the same things then that could end up getting scary |
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Declension
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The US and the Soviet Union disagreed about a lot of things. But they agreed on this one thing: they both wanted to convince the public to associate the Soviet Union with the word "communism". The US wanted to do it in order to discredit communism by associating it with the Soviet Union, and the Soviet Union wanted to do it in order to make the Soviet Union look good by associating it with the positive word "communism".
The modern-day association of communism with the Soviet Union is simply a leftover mind-virus from old propaganda. The Soviet Union had about as much to do with communism as a giraffe does. |
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Joker
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| Declension wrote: | The US and the Soviet Union disagreed about a lot of things. But they agreed on this one thing: they both wanted to convince the public to associate the Soviet Union with the word "communism". The US wanted to do it in order to discredit communism by associating it with the Soviet Union, and the Soviet Union wanted to do it in order to make the Soviet Union look good by associating it with the positive word "communism".
The modern-day association of communism with the Soviet Union is simply a leftover mind-virus from old propaganda. The Soviet Union had about as much to do with communism as a giraffe does. |
True the Soviet Union could have worked if they stuck to Karl Marxs original political thought communism has been around a lot longer then fascism and more people have died under communism but fascim has claimed human lives to in a shorter amount of time. |
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ruveyn
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True the Soviet Union could have worked if they stuck to Karl Marxs original political thought communism has been around a lot longer then fascism and more people have died under communism but fascim has claimed human lives to in a shorter amount of time. |
Not a chance. Communism and human egotism cannot co-exist. Humans are born selfish and egotistical.
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Sweetleaf
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| ruveyn wrote: | | Joker wrote: | [
True the Soviet Union could have worked if they stuck to Karl Marxs original political thought communism has been around a lot longer then fascism and more people have died under communism but fascim has claimed human lives to in a shorter amount of time. |
Not a chance. Communism and human egotism cannot co-exist. Humans are born selfish and egotistical.
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speak for yourself.
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True the Soviet Union could have worked if they stuck to Karl Marxs original political thought communism has been around a lot longer then fascism and more people have died under communism but fascim has claimed human lives to in a shorter amount of time. |
Not a chance. Communism and human egotism cannot co-exist. Humans are born selfish and egotistical.
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Humans are born that way we all have those qualitys but not all of us embrace them. |
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ruveyn
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Humans are born that way we all have those qualitys but not all of us embrace them. |
You don't have to embrace breathing but you breath anyway.
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Joker
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Humans are born that way we all have those qualitys but not all of us embrace them. |
You don't have to embrace breathing but you breath anyway.
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We are biologicaly built to breath air so that statment is a fallacy. |
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Sweetleaf
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Humans are born that way we all have those qualitys but not all of us embrace them. |
You don't have to embrace breathing but you breath anyway.
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not everyone acts in a selfish egotistical manner, its not a requirement the way air is.
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