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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:33 pm    Post subject: Post Traumatic stress disorder Reply with quote

looking back now i feel i have PTSD and not Asperger
my lack of social skill could be due to PTSD and i remain withdrawn, deep in thought, sad etc etc. it could be not related to Asperger
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the difference to you? I have both and they just fuel each other. When I can't read someone, my PTSD perks up and fills my head with the BAD and UGLY....

Do you have problems reading people or do you have a hard time with others? I mean, if someone you didn't know came up to you and tried to hug you ...



edited to add: I read a lot of your posts, please consider you have both before you throw out Aspergers.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't say since for all I know you have a completely inaccurate view of what PTSD and ASD are, but it's certainly not typical for them to be mixed up, they're pretty different.

I would be default stick with ASD.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kirayng wrote:
What's the difference to you? I have both and they just fuel each other. When I can't read someone, my PTSD perks up and fills my head with the BAD and UGLY....

Do you have problems reading people or do you have a hard time with others? I mean, if someone you didn't know came up to you and tried to hug you ...



edited to add: I read a lot of your posts, please consider you have both before you throw out Aspergers.

i can read people but most people avoid me and i am unable to befriend them they just become acquaintances.
i wont like if someone hugged me......as if here in india people dont hug or kiss or even shake hand
its just namaste
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phonic wrote:
I can't say since for all I know you have a completely inaccurate view of what PTSD and ASD are, but it's certainly not typical for them to be mixed up, they're pretty different.

I would be default stick with ASD.

http://www.helpguide.org/mental/post_traumatic_stress_disorder_symptoms_treatment.htm#signs
this symptoms are accurate for my kind of behaviour and so i feel that i suffer from just PTSD.
when i saw the movie mozart and the whale i realised that symptoms of Asperger are totally different
and i dont have that kind of symptoms.....means i dont scream when there is sound of metal clashing, or my house isnt
a mess, neither i act that weird...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:58 am    Post subject: Depression and autism Reply with quote

My thing is cyclothymia and Aspergers.

I'm about a 7 out of 10 so I'm communicating, but, it usually is quite limited.

I'm calling old acquaintances and the like, a fairly sure sign of the high side, I can match symptoms with many with bipolar up to the point where the really psychotic stuff takes over.

I have a best friend, now thousands of miles away, who is able to say to me "shut the f.... up...please" and most times I hear him.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

namaste wrote:
Phonic wrote:
I can't say since for all I know you have a completely inaccurate view of what PTSD and ASD are, but it's certainly not typical for them to be mixed up, they're pretty different.

I would be default stick with ASD.

http://www.helpguide.org/mental/post_traumatic_stress_disorder_symptoms_treatment.htm#signs
this symptoms are accurate for my kind of behaviour and so i feel that i suffer from just PTSD.
when i saw the movie mozart and the whale i realised that symptoms of Asperger are totally different
and i dont have that kind of symptoms.....means i dont scream when there is sound of metal clashing, or my house isnt
a mess, neither i act that weird...


Umm I don't think screaming when you hear metal clashing or having a messy house is a requirement for having AS...as for PTSD, is there a traumatic event in your life that the PTSD symptoms started after? Because PTSD develops when you go through something tramatic....not everyone gets it if something tramatic happens to them but I am pretty sure no traumatic events would rule it out.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I've had PTSD along with AS for as long as I can remember. I was abused physically and sexually when I was young. I was suicidal when I was a teenager, but now that I recognize it I just want it to go away.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was dx'd with both Asperger's and PTSD in 1999. I know for certain that those are accurate dx's for me.

The main difference between AS and PTSD is AS is something you have always had, since as long as you remember, and doesn't really get "worse" or "better", although it usually changes subtly over time as your brain changes with life experience and age.

PTSD on the other hand, is something that is induced through a traumatic experience, and causes the brain to cease coping with stress as well as healthy brain would. In the case of PTSD, symptoms do progressively get worse without treatment.

AS is a condition that includes disabilities that present challenges that one needs to learn skills to overcome, but also includes traits, strengths and talents that may not be found in more "normal" people. PTSD however is genuinely a "disorder" where your ability to cope with stress, even day-to-day stress, has become "disordered" and will continue to be disordered without proper treatment and therapy.

AS and PTSD have symptoms that overlaps with many other conditions and proper dx of either takes time. Additionally, while I have no problem with self-dxíng AS, as it's not necessarily something that needs medical intervention, PTSD is a serious mental illness that does require intervention, and so it's not something that you should be trying to self-dx. You wouldn't try to self-dx'd heart disease or cancer, would you? If you think you might have PTSD, I urge you to get evaluated properly, as if it's not PTSD it could be something else you haven't thought of but someone more objective may recognize.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i will be approaching a counsellor to evaluate me
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure myself either. I think I have what might be referred to as post-psychotic PTSD.

I have some Asperger's traits but they are toward the mild end of the spectrum and don't give an accurate picture of what it is really going on.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually i am quite dull, boring person and mainstream people would not like to keep my company eew
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mercurial wrote:
If you think you might have PTSD, I urge you to get evaluated properly, as if it's not PTSD it could be something else you haven't thought of but someone more objective may recognize.


I had a really bad spell in high school, where I ended up hospitalized and I was tested inside, outside, upside down and sideways which is how I ended up with an autistic diagnosis. I never really received any feedback from anyone, but I wasn't really responsive at the time. They gave me antidepressants, and tried biofeedback but I was completely stuck in my head for quite a while.
I went back to a counselor ten years later when I did find out my actual diagnosis, but his response was- you seem to be doing fine--here, take some pills.
I have an extremely hard time opening up emotionally to people. I'm getting better at it, I just keep pushing myself and haven't had an actual panic attack in quite a long time. I'm not as concerned whether its nature or nurture to blame, I just want to move forward.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject: Moving Forward Reply with quote

Yes, moving forward

that is the thing, forward for me may easily be backward for you

Forward for a psychiatrist may, just may, be backward for me

I still have the final decision as to what course to take. I'm thinking use all the specialists who do something day in and day out and seem to be learning all the time. That is the sort of help I want.

If I can get it here so much the better.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

namaste wrote:
Phonic wrote:
I can't say since for all I know you have a completely inaccurate view of what PTSD and ASD are, but it's certainly not typical for them to be mixed up, they're pretty different.

I would be default stick with ASD.

http://www.helpguide.org/mental/post_traumatic_stress_disorder_symptoms_treatment.htm#signs
this symptoms are accurate for my kind of behaviour and so i feel that i suffer from just PTSD.
when i saw the movie mozart and the whale i realised that symptoms of Asperger are totally different
and i dont have that kind of symptoms.....means i dont scream when there is sound of metal clashing, or my house isnt
a mess, neither i act that weird...


Ugh, that stupid movie...... acting weird isn't being autistic. Plenty of people act weird.
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