skyblue1 Snowy Owl


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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:02 am Post subject: Facebook password, please |
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Big Brother Wants Your Facebook Password
If you want to become a state trooper in Virginia, you should probably delete any indelicate information you have on Facebook. During the job interview process, the Virginia State Police requires all applicants to sign into Facebook, Twitter, and any social-networking site to which they regularly post information in front of an administrator.
“You sign a waiver, then there’s a laptop and you go to these sites and your interviewer reviews your information,” says Corinne Geller, spokeswoman for the Virginia State Police. “It’s a virtual character check as much as the rest of the process is a physical background check.” Geller says the practice has been around for only three months and is just one of many ways the state makes sure its law enforcement officials are ethically sound. (Potential troopers also have to submit to a polygraph test).
Virginia is not the only state to do this; other police departments and government entities have similar policies. Until recently, the city of Bozeman, Mont., and the Maryland Division of Correction both asked job applicants to hand over their passwords. Each has discontinued the practice—in Maryland’s case it was after a prison security guard named Robert Collins contacted the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and complained. Now they go for the over-the-shoulder approach that Virginia favors. University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill has a unique method: It requires all student athletes to friend a designated coach or administrative official on Facebook so that he or she can monitor their pages.
According to the ACLU, the number of employers who request access to applicants’ Facebook profiles has risen over the past year. Accessing such private information puts employers in a legal gray area and may potentially open them up to both privacy and discrimination lawsuits.
“This practice is so new that until recently, many people weren’t even aware that this was happening,” says Catherine Crump, staff attorney with the ACLU. Crump says that—while the ACLU has noted Facebook screening in both private and public sector jobs—”when the government is the employer, people have the constitutional right not to be subjected to unreasonable searches.” In other words, if you’re applying for a government job and your potential employer asks you to give up your social-media passwords, they might be violating your Fourth Amendment rights. “People should be entitled to their private lives,” she says.
Facebook calls this profile-access practice “distressing” and has recently amended its Statement of Rights and Responsibility (the legal terms to which you agree every time you access the site) to make it against company policy to share or solicit your account password. “We don’t think employers should be asking prospective employees to provide their passwords because we don’t think it’s the right thing to do,” said Erin Egan, Facebook’s chief privacy officer, in a recent blog post. Egan was unavailable for an interview, but a company spokesperson says that when people apply to work at Facebook, the social-networking site doesn’t look at their private information during the hiring process. Facebook currently has no plans to take legal action against any companies that ask for passwords, but it looks forward to “engaging with policy makers” to protect against the practice in the future.
Having to share a Facebook password is understandably distressing for people seeking jobs, but Crump says it could harm employers, too. When companies scroll through Facebook profiles, they may happen upon information they don’t want to know. “In job interviews, there are certain questions that employers know not to ask,” she says, such as if a person has children. “You’re not allowed to discriminate based on familial status, “but once you start trolling through someone’s life on Facebook, you’re going to stumble on that information,” she says. If the company doesn’t hire that person, it may open itself up to allegations of discrimination.
Bill Peppler, managing partner of the national staffing and recruiting company Kavaliro, says people should assume that their potential employers will look at their Facebook and Twitter pages. Kavaliro works with a number of national and international corporations such as Con Edison (ED), Verizon, and Starwood (HOT); while the company doesn’t ask for applicants’ passwords, it reviews as much publicly available information as it can find on Facebook.
Peppler tells one story about a person who was rejected for a position because of compromising photos posted to Facebook. “We’re not talking about undergraduate spring-break photos that are 10 years old. We’re talking about copious amounts of alcohol, where in every single picture the person had a cocktail or beer in hand. The company saw that and said, ‘You know, we’re going to move on from this candidate.’”
Surprisingly, this person was not an inexperienced college student or recent grad. “The millennial generation is much more used to it, they can use privacy settings,” he says. Instead, it’s people in their mid-30s or who “have been working for three ............
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-03-27/big-brother-wants-your-facebook-password _________________ I'm not anti-social; I'm just not user friendly
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nat4200 Phoenix

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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:26 am Post subject: |
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diniesaur Phoenix


Joined: Sep 03, 2011 Posts: 639 Location: in the Ministry of Silly Walks
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:03 am Post subject: Re: Facebook password, please |
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| nat4200 wrote: | | article wrote: | | Geller says the practice has been around for only three months and is just one of many ways the state makes sure its law enforcement officials are ethically sound. |
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YES!
And what about possible discrimination based on religion, political views, or LGBT status? |
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questor Hermit


Joined: Apr 24, 2011 Posts: 1983 Location: Twilight Zone
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:42 am Post subject: Facebook password issues |
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So, who says you have to admit to even having an account with Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, etc.? I don't have any social accounts, except here at WP, but if I did, I certainly would not admit it to any employer. If you tell them you have such an account, but refuse to give up your password, they will still not hire you--for not cooperating with the hiring review process. So, don't admit to having such an account. You can't give up a password if you don't have an account, right? If you tell them you don't have an account, how would they know other wise? Of course, if they find out later that you lied, it could hurt your continued employment with them. Personally, I don't see any reason to have accounts with Facebook, Twitter, and the other big social sites.
My advice #1: Dump the big social sites. They aren't worth a job, or the loss of privacy.
My advice #2: If you insist on keeping an account with a big social site, at least refrain from putting stuff on there that could come back to bite you. |
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snapcap Phoenix


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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| Would they turn you away if you didn't participate in networking sites? |
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Sweetleaf Metalhead


Joined: Jan 07, 2011 Age: 23 Posts: 14869 Location: Somewhere in Colorado
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:39 am Post subject: Re: Facebook password issues |
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How stupid, yeah I would really give an employer my facebook password , I think if that was the requirement to get a job I'd go look for a different one. _________________ It's like alice in wonderland except, my names not alice and this is the real world not a dream. |
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Fogman Econo-class Iconoclast


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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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This is an invasion of privacy. Then again, since I deleted my Facebook and MySpace accounts several years ago, it really wouldn't matter anyways, unless having an FB account is a requirement to gain employment, which is still discrimination. _________________ "When there's no 'there' to get to, we're so there!" |
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YippySkippy Phoenix


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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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A potential employer who asks for your FB password is telling you a lot about THEIR ethics - or lack thereof.
A long time ago, I filled out a questionaire for a job at ToysRUs. There were numerous questions that seemed iffy to me, but this one stands out in my memory:
"I have done my share of 'hell-raising' in my time." True or False
I picked up my incomplete questionaire and took it with me as I walked out.
A while later I heard ToysRUs was sued over those questionaires, which didn't surprise me in the least. |
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Asp-Z Clockwork Planet


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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Facebook are threatening to sue employers over this kind of practice FYI. |
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League_Girl Proud mamma


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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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sh**, now you can't even make your life private online to keep internet spies away so they now ask for your password? What's next, asking for your user names and what forums you go to and your passwords for there too?
What if you don't have a Facebook account? You can mind as well not use your photos as your profile picture and just say it's not you don't have an account and anyone can have the same name as you and they wouldn't even know what location that person is at if they have it private.
I would rather mooch off the system if all jobs started doing this because serves them right for invasion of privacy. Why not start asking if they can install cameras in our home so they can see what we do at home when we are not at work? But I might lie about having a Facebook account instead and get rid of my profile picture and make it something else that isn't me or my family in there and they won't know it's me. They will think it's someone else because I am not the only person in the world with my name and I will make mu own husband remove his picture and put something else there and make everything private in there from the public and make him say he does not have a FB account either. |
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League_Girl Proud mamma


Joined: Feb 05, 2010 Posts: 13669 Location: My house
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: Facebook password issues |
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| questor wrote: | So, who says you have to admit to even having an account with Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, etc.? I don't have any social accounts, except here at WP, but if I did, I certainly would not admit it to any employer. If you tell them you have such an account, but refuse to give up your password, they will still not hire you--for not cooperating with the hiring review process. So, don't admit to having such an account. You can't give up a password if you don't have an account, right? If you tell them you don't have an account, how would they know other wise? Of course, if they find out later that you lied, it could hurt your continued employment with them. Personally, I don't see any reason to have accounts with Facebook, Twitter, and the other big social sites.
My advice #1: Dump the big social sites. They aren't worth a job, or the loss of privacy.
My advice #2: If you insist on keeping an account with a big social site, at least refrain from putting stuff on there that could come back to bite you. |
They can do a search on you and find your profile. I posted my solution in my first response.
My reason for Facebook is to keep my family up to date with my child and to see what my school mates have been up to and my family. |
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Asp-Z Clockwork Planet


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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't use your real name on the internet. This is sound advice whether or not you care about employers looking at your profile. |
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League_Girl Proud mamma


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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Or make yourself unsearchable. I just thought of that solution. Plus I am not the only person in the world with my name so any private profiles they see with my name could be someone else. |
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abacacus Rock 'N Roll Outlaw


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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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I defy an employer to connect my facebook profile to me. They'd best know their norse mythology AND dodge my old accounts (that actually have my real name on them). _________________ A shot gun blast into the face of deceit
You'll gain your just reward.
We'll not rest until the purge is complete
You will reap what you've sown. |
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Jory Always in the wrong place at the wrong time


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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Asp-Z wrote: | | Don't use your real name on the internet. This is sound advice whether or not you care about employers looking at your profile. |
Luckily, my real name is Fartbag McTwinkletits, so people just assume I'm giving them a fake name when I use it online. |
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