Surfman
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| OliveOilMom wrote: | There are always people who are insecure to the point of complaining about anyone not responding the way they want. There are so many on here who complain that they don't get enough responses, etc. I don't think that a tool that could be enjoyable to most people should not be available because others might get upset over it.
There should also be an option to turn those tools off, so that you don't have to see others rep and you can't give or get rep. Also to turn off the friends part in case you think that people are going to be mean to you. Maybe there is a way that the mods could control that. They could turn off those features for members who seem to have a problem with it. That way they don't see other's rep.
People who want to whine about popularity shouldn't limit the fun of everybody else. There is always going to be somebody, somewhere, who will make everything about them and go on and on about how whatever it is, is something that is being used to bully them and harrass them, and to discriminate and be unfair to them. We can't nor shouldn't "dumb down" everything to the absolute least chance that someone could be upset by something. |
I dont think being for or against repping, is a sign of dumbing down, or not dumbing down?
OliveOilMum, some of your posts, I have noticed quite a few errors of logic. Your post states: also "people who whine' and continue to infer that I (or people who whine....) have a deficiency..... for advocating against a repping feature?
I dont see this as a healthy way to communicate, esp. for someone in your position..... and your rhetoric sounds to me, to have the qualities of veiled personal attack and aggression, that I originally and am still concerned about, when an in crowd forms, and it talks down to those not in it.
If you have a problem with my behaviour, please address me directly.
Rather than inferring in the third person, while disparaging a legitimate concern from an outsider......... so that already appears to me to have validity.... that was my original concern, and it appears to be stacking up as exampled above
I dont care if you dont like me. But I feel your comments have crossed the line of appropriate behaviour for someone in your position. Deriding a member with personal attacks, in the third person, because you disagree with them, or dislike them smacks of school yard bullying, over authoritarian rhetoric and cyber intimidation
Just saying, as others here corrected your lapses in logic aplenty, and have recently intimated similar concerns about aspie authority running amok |
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Vigilans
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| OliveOilMom wrote: | There are always people who are insecure to the point of complaining about anyone not responding the way they want. There are so many on here who complain that they don't get enough responses, etc. I don't think that a tool that could be enjoyable to most people should not be available because others might get upset over it.
There should also be an option to turn those tools off, so that you don't have to see others rep and you can't give or get rep. Also to turn off the friends part in case you think that people are going to be mean to you. Maybe there is a way that the mods could control that. They could turn off those features for members who seem to have a problem with it. That way they don't see other's rep.
People who want to whine about popularity shouldn't limit the fun of everybody else. There is always going to be somebody, somewhere, who will make everything about them and go on and on about how whatever it is, is something that is being used to bully them and harrass them, and to discriminate and be unfair to them. We can't nor shouldn't "dumb down" everything to the absolute least chance that someone could be upset by something. |
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OliveOilMom
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Surfman wrote: | | OliveOilMom wrote: | There are always people who are insecure to the point of complaining about anyone not responding the way they want. There are so many on here who complain that they don't get enough responses, etc. I don't think that a tool that could be enjoyable to most people should not be available because others might get upset over it.
There should also be an option to turn those tools off, so that you don't have to see others rep and you can't give or get rep. Also to turn off the friends part in case you think that people are going to be mean to you. Maybe there is a way that the mods could control that. They could turn off those features for members who seem to have a problem with it. That way they don't see other's rep.
People who want to whine about popularity shouldn't limit the fun of everybody else. There is always going to be somebody, somewhere, who will make everything about them and go on and on about how whatever it is, is something that is being used to bully them and harrass them, and to discriminate and be unfair to them. We can't nor shouldn't "dumb down" everything to the absolute least chance that someone could be upset by something. |
I dont think being for or against repping, is a sign of dumbing down, or not dumbing down?
OliveOilMum, some of your posts, I have noticed quite a few errors of logic. Your post states: also "people who whine' and continue to infer that I (or people who whine....) have a deficiency..... for advocating against a repping feature?
I dont see this as a healthy way to communicate, esp. for someone in your position..... and your rhetoric sounds to me, to have the qualities of veiled personal attack and aggression, that I originally and am still concerned about, when an in crowd forms, and it talks down to those not in it.
If you have a problem with my behaviour, please address me directly.
Rather than inferring in the third person, while disparaging a legitimate concern from an outsider......... so that already appears to me to have validity.... that was my original concern, and it appears to be stacking up as exampled above
I dont care if you dont like me. But I feel your comments have crossed the line of appropriate behaviour for someone in your position. Deriding a member with personal attacks, in the third person, because you disagree with them, or dislike them smacks of school yard bullying, over authoritarian rhetoric and cyber intimidation
Just saying, as others here corrected your lapses in logic aplenty, and have recently intimated similar concerns about aspie authority running amok |
WTF? It's got nothing about you, nor is it any kind of a personal attack! I don't care if you say something about my logic. Hell, I know it's not the best. I have no investment whatsoever in being right or wrong about something.
I honestl didn't write that about you, I didn't have anyone in mind when I wrote it, I've talked to people about the rep system and some other ideas before and THEY told me that some people think it's a popularity contest. I think that's ridiculous and I used the whole "dumbing down" idea that's in the media as an example.
Thinking this is a popularity contest has nothing to do with intelligence. It's got to do with sensitivity, or self esteem, or self centeredness, etc, depending on each person's feelings. There is no popular phrase for that, so I used dumbing down. Sort of like how people complain that tests in school have been dumbed down so that more people can pass. That kind of "dumbing down'. Changing or not changing something on the forum so that less people will take it personally.
I honestly don't remember much of anything that you post. I only remember a few people by what they write and their avatar. It has nothing to do with popularity or not, it has to do with what decides to stick in my brain. You didn't. Most don't. I remember your running dog avatar, and I always like it, but that's really all.
I'm not talking down to anybody at all, and it's far from a personal attack. This is an example of taking something personally that wasn't meant personally.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Oh dear. Don't make me have to send you all to bed without supper.
Seriously. Can the tone here be brought down a few notches, on everyone's part?
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Kjas
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Instead of a rep system, we could just have a "Thank you" button.
It would cut down on the posts where someone is only quoting said person because they agree, want to say thank you or qft.
It also wouldn't allow for a popularity contest to happen as nobody would gain or lose anything by leaving a thank you or by being thanked.
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Alexender
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| Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:13 am Post subject: |
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| Kjas wrote: | Instead of a rep system, we could just have a "Thank you" button.
It would cut down on the posts where someone is only quoting said person because they agree, want to say thank you or qft.
It also wouldn't allow for a popularity contest to happen as nobody would gain or lose anything by leaving a thank you or by being thanked. |
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Inyanook
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I'm assuming this is the right thread to mention this...?
I must say I don't really like the way hyperlinks are formatted on this site. Might it be better if they were set so that they were underlined? Or at the very least so that they underline when hovered over? The way they are just doesn't seem all that intuitive to me.
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TheTrueLizard
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:50 pm Post subject: An introduction sort of place? |
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| I'm not too familiar with the way forums work, their names and whatnot, but I've seen at least one introduction kind of place in each of them. It would be a nice way for new people like myself to get acquainted with the community or rules. Speaking of, I have yet to read up on those here. Apologies if there is a introduction sort of place but I haven't found it. |
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Cornflake
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Czeslaw_Kowalski
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| What about a trolling subforum?In this forum personal attacks,racial slurs and other offensive things are still not allowed but making 100 threads like "xbeufbeue" is allowed.When one is unhappy and wants to troll,he/she could go there and have a whole board trolled without interfering with the board. |
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Cornflake
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No.
Trolling is best carried out away from WP, thanks very much. 
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I love this site, and I say this with the utmost respect for everyone involved: The server issues that have been going on for years now are just beyond ridiculous. I've never seen another site go down nearly as frequently as WP does.
My suggestion is this: Hold an annual pledge drive. Use these donations to upgrade and maintain your servers. Wikipedia does this every year and I donate because I love the site. I would happily give what I can to help improve WP, and I'm sure many others would too. |
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TallyMan
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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The problem isn't with the servers, it is with the site software. It has been very heavily customised (badly) and is now full of bugs and quite unstable due to the massive size of the database and number of users. The bottom line is that the site code needs replacing. It is beyond obsolete.
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scubasteve
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Then may I suggest a call for volunteers? There are a fair amount of computer programmers here...
Anyway thanks for the info |
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Why is there no 'search' buttom, it would make everything easier and you can search want you want to see  |
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