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The PS3 and Wii have a lot more great exclusive games than the Xbox360. Most of the good games for Xbox are also on one or both of the other consoles.
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I own a lot of consoles, including the PS3, Xbox 360, and the Wii. I think they each have something likable about them.
For example, the Wii's library is full of many casual games that are easy enough for even a toddler to navigate. It's kind of childish and fun, but also offers other games to suit different people. I'd consider it to be mostly casual. I think they last pretty long as well, because I still have my original Wii that my mom went out and bought six years ago. The exclusives (such as Super Mario Brothers) are also great to play.
The Xbox 360 is kind of individualistic in my opinion. It also has a vast game library, mostly hardcore but several family-friendly games thrown in. I think adding on the Kinect was good, because that's what finally convinced my mother to buy one (as I was still saving up for my new PS3 after my first one stopped working). I don't know much about any exclusives it has to offer, though. I'd consider it kind of fragile as well, because my sister dropped it once and we had to replace a few parts. I still like it very much.
The PS3 is a lot like the Xbox 360, except it has a few of my favorite games that are exclusive to PlayStation. I had the first "fat" one that came out, and it was a bit disorganized. I had a lot of trouble finding the right place to get software updates going. But what I did like about it was that you could be on it for hours and it didn't overheat too easily. I got mine to last a few years, but I finally got the dreaded "yellow light of death." So I saved up and bought the slimmer model. It has huge differences, but mostly good. The navigation I think is a lot cleaner, and it runs a little more smoothly. I have to be careful about how long I leave it on, because it overheated faster than my last one. But anyways, great console with lots of fun exclusives.
I try my best to remain unbiased, and this is the result. Like what you will, but this is my opinion.
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My NT boyfriend was an XBOX fanatic for years...he would sing its praises night and day, and talk trash about the other consoles, particularly the PS3. That is, until he became best friends with a PS3 fanatic, and wanting to be able to play online with him, my boyfriend bought a P3S, fell in love, and now can't remember why he ever liked the 360 in the first place.
I've never cared for the 360. There are ZERO exclusives to the console that interest me, so combine that with poorer graphics and a monthly fee...what's to like?!
PS3 has the best exclusives, best graphics, no monthly fee, and has a built in Blu-ray player. Unless you've got one on for the likes of Halo and Gears of War, then I see absolutely no reason to own an XBOX.
I find, for the most part, that people are fanboys for whichever console they played/owned first...and they really don't know anything about the other consoles. If you own all of the consoles and like things about each, I also don't see how you should receive criticism for that.
I'm a PS3 fangirl, but I still maintain that the SNES is the best console ever! 
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| Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Well all game consoles have something for somebody. For me though, the PS3 is the best console. I can see why families would like the Wii but can we at least agree the hardware itself is lame compared to the other 2 consoles?
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| Well, yeah. That was an intentional design choice made by Nintendo, but it certainly didn't make the wii appeal much to the hardcore crowd. I do like its VC, and a small handful of its games(mostly first party), but I don't turn it on very often, given that I also own a ps3. I don't care for motion control, which doesn't help either. A good chunk of my wii collection has classic controller support, and I have one classic controller, and two classic controller pros(though one was free, because it came with Monster Hunter Tri). My VC collection rivals my disc based collection for the system. Come to think of it, maybe I should turn her on sometime, and chip away at one of the games in my wii backlog. Yeah, she doesn't get much action, which I guess isn't unusual. |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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My sister has an xbox360 Although I would prefer PS3 or a Wii I like XBOX 360 though its alright I don't hate it video games are video games and the difference in graphics and such are minimal. I might have my moments of saying PS3 all the way I like Sony products anyway. I guess its like car fans Ford vs Chevy fans etc muscle vs import same analogy.
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I think the Wii has more games then we give credit for.
I would say I have a mixture of all of the consoles but my Wii Collection is surprisingly bigger then my 360 or PS3 collection...I guess it's die to liking most of Nintendos output this generation but I liked Muramasa, Sonic Colours and the like as well.
A shame the Wii never realised it's full potential in terms of proper diversity.
The 360 doesn't really have much diversity either but it's got more then the Wii (Shooters vs PLatformers, lol) as the Wii does depend on the VC in terms of getting some of the so called Hardcore on board.
The PS3 is great at Japanese exclusives but it does suffer with a few multiplayer games and in some cases gets the worse multiplatform versions of games too.
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| I'd say a lot of the bias is based on team mentality. Just like red sox vs yankees, redskins vs cowboys, etc. |
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i remember when it was Nintendo vs. Sega. most people can't afford 2 consoles (or more) + games, ect. So they pick one, and hate on whoever got the other one. Coke vs. Pepsi, Ford vs. Chevy. Great Taste or Less Filling. Mcdonalds vs Burger King. or neither.
it's been around forever. it should be a friendly game of who's better. unfortunatly, some people take it way to seriously. |
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ZX_SpectrumDisorder
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:33 am Post subject: |
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(Currently) I'm not a fanboy, I have 2 PS3s and an Xbox, but I find most of Sony's pre-PS3 release hyperbole laughable, in hindsight.
THE NEXT GEN STARTS WHEN WE SAY SO. Well no actually, you were beaten to market by almost two years.
CONTROLLER FEEDBACK IS A LAST GEN TECHNOLOGY. OK, so you lost a court case and lost your claim that you developed the tech and then you release a Sixaxis controller with the original configuration, then do a 180 and release a Dualshock 3 controller that your loyal early adopters then have to buy.
PLAYSTATION IS A FAMILY. Meaning that you should be able to play PS1/2 games on PS3, then why remove backwards compatibility?
And from my own observation - MGS4 aside (I bought my first PS3 to play MGS3 and 4), how long did it take before we saw any must have PS3 exclusive essentials? Mine remained pretty much dormant until LBP and Uncharted appeared.
Are you seriously going to tell me Resistance, Killzone or Socom can compete with the likes of Halo or Gears?
I can see the plus and minus of both, but to be perfectly honest, I don't understand how anyone could be a PS3 fanboy to the extent of some I've encountered. Yes OK, it's free to play online, but seriously, try and organise a game with friends. It's bullshit, the few times we've tried to get games going, we've had to set up a TEXT CHAT ROOM to get people into Killzone 2.
What is this 1998? Also, voice comms with anything other than the official bluetooth headset are diabolical and even with the official headset, with the advantage of the quality boost in the PS3's firmware, are still sub-standard.
Xbox Live costs £26 for a whole year in the UK and it's worth every penny, especially if you play online games regularly. The ease of organising games is superb and the quality of voice comms are perfect.
People can harp on about the 360 hardware failure rate, but how many people do you know with the OG 60GB PS3 and used it regularly still have one? Sony even set up and insurance scheme in the UK which became so overwhelmed with claims that it shut down. If Xbox had have supported game installs from day one, the issue may not have been so prevalent.
Most I know have experienced a yellow light hardware failure and mine which is now retired to the bedroom as a media player sounds like an industrial heater when playing disks.
Sony f**** up. They tried to emulate the original Xbox by throwing more power at everything, but the structure of their proprietary components were and still remain confusing to most developers and Sony refused to support non-Sony studios, so the 'Power of Playstation' has essentially gone to waste as third party developers code for the off the shelf Xbox and port to PS3. Just like the old days when Xbox owners got shitty PS2 ports, while the Xbox was capable of producing games like Stranger's Wrath, Ninja Gaiden, Kung Fu Chaos and Halo.
I might also add that the speed with which the PS3 reads Blu Ray disks is much slower than DVD, it's actually too slow to stream game data from, so that larger disk capacity goes to waste as developers write multiple copies of the same game to different sectors of the disk in order to counter the difficulties with read speed.
It actually saddens me, because games like Uncharted and Little Big Planet support some beautiful texture work and I would rather see more of it. It seems to me like Sony have shot themselves in the foot this hardware cycle.
The next gen could be quite interesting and I'm in for another round to see how it pans out. Videogames haven't managed to bore me to death, yet.
The only piece of videogame hardware I have and will always remain a fanboy of was my MSX.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:42 am Post subject: Re: I don't understand Console Bias (Fanboys) |
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| CrazyStarlightRedux wrote: | I was on another forum discussing Rayman Origins, and someone asks what do I play it on (they assumed I played it on the PS3/Vita), but when I said the 360, the mod seemed disgusted by it as well as another member (initiating a smilie that is sick).
I honestly don't get this gesture....first of all I own all the current consoles and second what makes one console so special over the other one? It's pretty pathetic if you ask me to cast yourself to only one particular console. 
Any thoughts on the matter? I do have some bias of preferring a certain gaming company BUT I do play other games in relation, as sticking to just one particular thing seems like you are limiting yourself. |
Sounds light-hearted to me. I'm used to forums like that, at least in tone. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: I don't understand Console Bias (Fanboys) |
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| Bun wrote: |
Sounds light-hearted to me. I'm used to forums like that, at least in tone. |
I would have took it as a light tone...until they started mocking about how Microsoft have no games and they "buy out" developers to make games for them.
I encountered the same with some Sony fanboys as well...calling someone who hates Nintendo products "smart people", really?
To even your argument out ZX, Microsoft can't emulate original Xbox games properly, I bought a game which essentially is unplayable by the 3rd Stage.
Although Sony messed up on eliminating PS2 emulation, at least they have a functional PS1 BC code-line, unlike Microsoft who should have used the BC as an advantage to boost their catalogue as the games piled up.
I also find it sad how Microsoft didn't make an effort to entice niche Japanese games on their system whereas Sony have the best Japanese Developers (both mainstream and niche) working on their console despite the difficulties.
No offence to you ZX as your points are all very valid and I agree on organising game sessions online (I bought Sonic and SEGA All Stars Racing on the 360 as it's the superior version, and it didn't disappoint).
Here is how I see the consoles:
360 has the best western games. (The exception have to be their XBLA line up, which has a notable amount of Japanese devs on them)
PS3 has the best Eastern games. (Uncharted and LBP being the exception)
Wii has the best B-Tier games (if we don't count Nintendo).
I see the same thing with the Mega Drive/SNES console war. They both offered something different.
The Mega Drive had the best sports titles and varied/unqiue platformers and possibly the best beat em up ever in Streets of Rage.
The SNES had the best RPGS, Metroid (which had no competitor at the time).
The Neo Geo had the best Fighters.
The Turbographx-16 has the best overall shmups.
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I think all consoles aren't worth what you are paying for, but that is just me, and I have owned nearly every single console out there since the Atari, including not so popular consoles. As years go by I see PC gaming and how advanced it really is. So many online games to play, so many mods for single players and online too, better graphics if "you got it like that", better game mechanics, and often a more mature community especially with higher graphics games and pay to plays. The things a PC can do not only for gaming but everything else totally beats any consoles butt.
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ZX_SpectrumDisorder
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My point about Sony's PS2 backwards compatibility is related to Sony's hyperbole where they made press statements about the Playstation being a brand, being a family and that PS1/2 games will run on PS3, and proceeded to remove the ability to run PS2 games. Personally, I don't really care about BC on either console, but my single experience of BC on both of them was positive.
I played MGS3 on PS3 and Jet Set Radio Future on 360 and both were glitch-free. I just have a problem with bullshitters and backtrackers, and if we're talking niche Japanese games, might I direct your attention to the fact that Xbox is the home of Japanese shmups, I don't think it gets more niche or Japanese than that, frankly.
Treasure - Ikauruga HD, Bangai-O HD and Radiant Silvergun HD
G-Rev - Mamouru Kun, Under Defeat HD, Senko No Ronde/2
Cave - DoDonPachi Dai Ou Jou Extra Black Label, DoDonPachi Resurrection, Ketsui, Deathsmiles/2, Muchi Muchi Pork, Pink Sweets, Espgaluda 2 Black Label, Mushimesama Futari Black Label, Akai Katana and Guwange.
Qute - Escatos
Natsume - Omega 5
Grasshopper Manufacture - Sine Mora
SNK - Trouble Witches Neo, KoF Sky Stage.
| CrazyStarlightRedux wrote: | | The Turbographx-16 has the best overall shmups |
Before the Xbox 360, surely the Sega Saturn was the Shmup console?
Anyway...
From recent experience, I find the Japanese developers can't cut it anymore. Western developers have taken everything they've learned from Western and Eastern games development, refined both and defined this generation, leaving the majority of Japan's developers lost. Even Keiji Inafune would and has agreed and even published an open letter to the Japanese games industry. A big thing from the sole remaining Capcom lynchpin at the time
Since Capcom foolishly fired Clover Team and Mikami, they lost what made them special. I'm not sure, but I think they've recently fired Inafune too.
Streetfighter 4 is developed in America, Dead Rising 2 was developed in Canada and Devil May Cry 5 is being deveoped by a UK team. I've been looking at the RE6 promos and I am actually looking forward to that coming out, it looks like Capcom may just turn things around, they seem to have promoted a lot of their younger staff and moved the guy they had given the reins to, sideways. Under him we had such 'exciting' titles as DMC4, Lost Planet/2 and RE5. Not all is lost, of course, I still have time for the Platinum Games people, Mikami, Kojima and Suda51, although I was disappointed by Shadows of The Damned (Suda51 and Mikami) and No More Heroes. I enjoyed NMH a lot, but it's no Killer 7. Suda51 seems to have peaked, already.
Konami seem lost, all they have is MGS and Pro Evo. They tried to resuscitate Castlevania by giving it to a Spanish developer and they continue to flog a dead horse by farming out Silent Hill to various B division Western teams.
As for Sega, I gave Yakuza 3, 4, Dead Souls and Binary Domain a fair go. In fact I played Y3 for 75 hours, but come on, these games aren't up to the current standard. I'd have given any first party Sega game an fair go, but these are just higher res PS2 games. I think I could have lived happily having never played any of them. |
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| I hope you guys aren't reading that as being hostile or anything. |
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