For now at least I have a good excuse not to fly. I don't have id. I was going to get a new one recently but I didn't have enough points. I don't really need to fly. The only time it could possibly come up is if my mother got a bunch of money and wanted to go on a vacation or if my friend in another state wanted to pay for me to come visit which is very unlikely.
Even back pre 911 I've had some problems with flying although it wasn't touching related. The worst they ever did to me back then was made me lift the back of my shirt slightly to see that the rivets in the waist of my jeans were setting the wand off. They did lose my bag once which was pretty distressing although I eventually got it back.
I just hope they don't start this on other transportation or I'll never go anywhere again. A while ago I saw a video or web site where a bunch of people were stopped and thoroughly searched getting off of a train. Once a long time ago on a greyhound bus a cop came on and searched people's bags but not very thoroughly.
There are things I'd like to refuse out of principle but I don't always have the nerve to do so. Like this one time a cop asked to see in my DS case as I was walking to the library. I know that I didn't really have to consent to that and if I had thought about it ahead of time I know I would have wanted to refuse but I just ended up opening it because it was easier. I don't like conflict. I don't know what they expected to see in there unless they thought it looks like a case for a handgun.
With drug tests I want to refuse out of principle but might only end up refusing if they watch. I haven't had to do one of those in almost 19 years though.
Joined: Nov 12, 2011 Posts: 6990 Location: Living in Faulkner's nightmare
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:28 pm Post subject:
I don't mind it if I think there is a good reason. I do believe that preventing people from hijacking planes and such is a good reason. The library thing, I wouldn't have minded that. The train and bus thing were probably because somebody had gotten a tip for something.
I tend to refuse when I feel that they are picking me out to search me. Not the random searches done by strangers, but when a cop stops you and then wants to search because he's suspiscious, I get mad. I totally refuse. It's even worse in this small town cause all the cops live here and we know each other. It's offensive in the real sense of the word, as in they know me but they still think I have some drugs or something. That ticks me off to no end.
Take the prison search for example. Now, the guards there work in town and they know me, but those are the rules for visiting convicts. So, it's my choice to either stay at home and not visit him or go visit him and get searched. They search everybody the same way. It's not personal. More than likely it's an acquaintance there searching me, and so it doesn't seem as "wierd". It's somebody I'm likely to run into at Wal Mart or the ER waiting room or the BP or something. They are no different than me, just doing the job they get paid to do.
I don't mind conflict at all. I'm extremely assertive. Years ago I used to work in this one new agey place. All the other ladies who worked there were really soft spoken and so overly polite to everybody that they could send you to the hospital in a diabetic coma just from talking to them. They were terrified of accidentally hurting anyone's feelings. Me, on the other hand, just said whatever I thought, when I thought it. I could care less about the results. They only hired me as a cook and because I could cook really, really good. It was a trade off on their part. So, the owner called all the ladies to a meeting and said he had hired someone to come and give an assertiveness seminar once a week for the next four weeks and we were all required to attend. They all sat there smiling and nodding and I said "Hey now! Nobody ever said anything about extra time, I have a husband and child at home and I'm not coming back so somebody can teach me how to send back an undercooked steak or how to say no to a mugger" He looked at me and said "I never, ever meant that I wanted you to come to these. You are the LAST PERSON ON EARTH I want to see get mouthier!" I said "Good, I'm going home then". _________________ Frances
Joined: Nov 12, 2011 Posts: 6990 Location: Living in Faulkner's nightmare
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:10 am Post subject:
By spreading that poor victimized girls picture around the internet, you are taking part in her horrendous sexual assault by the TSA agents.
Even if it's only a computer generated image or someone willing to have it posted online, it's just sexually degrading women, so what you did is no better than the TSA agents you claim post pictures of people on websites.
Joined: Mar 23, 2009 Posts: 4456 Location: The shooting range
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:18 am Post subject:
OliveOilMom wrote:
By spreading that poor victimized girls picture around the internet, you are taking part in her horrendous sexual assault by the TSA agents.
Even if it's only a computer generated image or someone willing to have it posted online, it's just sexually degrading women, so what you did is no better than the TSA agents you claim post pictures of people on websites.
Pornographer!!!!
At least she is a volunteer. Airline passengers put their arms up.
If it was no better than the TSA, it would be a picture of a computer screen taken with a camera phone! _________________ "Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars."
- Unknown
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
-Sigmund Freud
Joined: Oct 15, 2010 Age: 132 Posts: 1254 Location: Svíþjoð
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:16 pm Post subject:
OliveOilMom wrote:
By spreading that poor victimized girls picture around the internet, you are taking part in her horrendous sexual assault by the TSA agents.
Actually, if I disregard the sarcasm in your reply, you're sort of right. Despite that it was downscaled, in low detail, I shouldn't have posted it without censoring it, first. I can't honestly say that the good outweighs the bad, either. My apologies.
