richardbenson
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| Thom_Fuleri wrote: | | artrat wrote: | | I will never understand why conservatives are so close-minded and judgemental. |
Binary thinking. The universe is much simpler and easier to understand if you can divide it into two. Black/white, light/dark, yes/no... and right/wrong. The concept that there's a whole grey area in which things aren't right or wrong but depend on circumstances is positively frightening to them.
The outcomes of binary thinking are bizarre sometimes. Atheism is linked to devil worship, which kind of misses the point of atheism (not worshipping ANY gods, including dark or evil ones!) because they only see two options - God, or the Devil.
The anti-abortion anger stems from the idea that, if women CAN have abortions for any reason, they WILL. The idea that women may have an abortion because they need to but not actually want to falls into that grey area again and does not compute.
Homosexuality is another right/wrong issue. It's different to "normal" people, and normal people are right, so it must be wrong. Since binary thinking also divides sex into two and only two categories, a binary thinker can also justify homosexuality as deviant because it gets lumped in with cross-dressing, weird fetishes, leather dungeons and spanking, paedophilia, bestiality, necrophilia... some of these are clearly immoral, so they must all be.
You'll have a tough time explaining bisexuality to really hardcore conservatives. They don't believe it exists. Go out with a guy, and you're gay. If you go out with a girl the next week, they'll think you switched to being straight. |
hilarious, but true. i'm bisexual, my aunt has a "real problem" with it because she's a "christian." and to make her more worried about my sexuality, i talk in a stereotypical "homo's" voice and say this. "girl, if your a christian, then my ass is black and honey my ass aint black!"
well the look on her face is priceless. hah
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TheHouseholdCat
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| artrat wrote: | | Thank you! It's too bad that my family are homophobic and believe that bisexuality does not exist. |
| artrat wrote: | I am bisexual!
I am attracted to both sexes and I can not control it.
I can't tell anyone about this in fear of ridicule and judgment.
It feels better to break the silence on line. |
I think it's ridiculous that many people don't take this as serious as the poles of homsexuality and heterosexuality.
Quite frankly, I think this clear separation does more damage than good.
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TheHouseholdCat
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| artrat wrote: | I have known that I was bisexual since I was 14 but had to remain silent.
MY family are all conservative catholics and they see homosexuality as morally wrong.
I will never understand why conservatives are so close-minded and judgmental. |
I think it's because they think the Bible says it's wrong. And the Bible is still seen as the basis for Western moral standards. ^^
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IdahoRose
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You and I are quite similar, artrat, because I am also a bisexual person who grew up in a conservative Catholic household. I've known since I was a teenager but these days I keep it to myself and pass as straight because when I told my parents back then, they became really upset with me. I wish I could be more open about my bisexuality, especially since I lean more towards lesbianism than hetero and it kills me to pretend to be into guys all the time.  |
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SanityTheorist
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I consider myself bisexual and have a low sex drive. It just makes you more readily available. 
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falonsayswoah
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| artrat wrote: | I have known that I was bisexual since I was 14 but had to remain silent.
MY family are all conservative catholics and they see homosexuality as morally wrong.
I will never understand why conservatives are so close-minded and judgmental. |
I had a similar experience/am in a similar situation. I told my dad I was bisexual when I was a sophomore in high school. He is extremely conservative, but he was loving and supportive. However, he made a couple comments to me that made me believe he thinks it is a phase. He said something like, "I know you're going through something right now, but you shouldn't act like this." I assume this is because I told him I liked boys but also girls. He hasn't really said anything since, but back then he seemed to not think it was very serious, when I was actually 100% positive I liked girls, but not sure if I liked boys.When I was a senior, I told my mom I was gay, because I learned that romantically, I just want to be with girls. She is extremely religious (Christian), but she has been nothing but loving and supportive. I didn't want to explain my sexuality to her because if I told her I was bisexual but homoromantic (which I didn't even fully understand at the time, but recently I've realized that although I'm attracted to guys to an extent, I usually don't connect with them emotionally), she would think, "Oh, so there's still a chance she'll date a guy." So I gave her a solid answer and was very confident with it (through text message... I'm not so good with words in person). She apologized for the things she said about gays before, and she hasn't said anything bad since I told her. I think a lot of the time it is different when it's your own kid. Not every time, obviously.. But I was convinced my mom would disown me, and she actually reacted even better than my dad. So you really never know for sure until you tell them. But I understand where you're coming from with feeling like you can't tell people, especially your family. It's an awful feeling.
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Joker
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I am into both genders I cant be out and open about it unless I'm on WP I told my mom once but she acted like she didnt hear me so I didnt bring it up again I like having relationships with women and men and sex as well I am a methodist but no one at my church has anything against people who are gay or bi me I am omisexual I like the person not the gender I am also Bigender I tend to think and act more like a girl though depending on what mood I am in I'll act more like a guy it goes back and forth really but yeah dealing with homophobic people can be tough plus I hate having to lie that I am into guy's cause I am their lips are soft love the smell of their sweat ect I like girls to though just as much as I am into guys. |
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packmaster
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Joker.
Would you mind terribly, if I rewrote your post with punctuation?
Also, I am so happy that you had an ambition and have achieved it.
" The most unpopular person on WP"
That must be a wonderful feeling, I hope I can do that one day.
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Joker
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| packmaster wrote: | Joker.
Would you mind terribly, if I rewrote your post with punctuation?
Also, I am so happy that you had an ambition and have achieved it.
" The most unpopular person on WP"
That must be a wonderful feeling, I hope I can do that one day. |
I would but punctuation is a pain in the arse I write with punctuation some times but rarely I'm better at math then I am at writing  |
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packmaster
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LoL. Be nice if I could forget about punctuation (and spelling) 'am terrible at both, but the thought of getting it wrong breaks me out in a sweat.
Anyway back to topic.....
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Joker
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The other day I was talking to a close female friend I mine and I told her who cares if the church is going to judge you for having a girlfriend when the only people in the church that are homophobic no one gives a damn about in the first place  |
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Rylan
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:55 pm Post subject: I must make a confession |
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The people who are close to you will stay with you throughout. I am gay and although some people doubt it, my close family and friends are still with me.
There will always be questions asked, and it may sometimes make your blood boil but remember they are still with you.
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yatula
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Firstly, well done for coming to grips with that part of yourself. Secondly, I personally make a point of never telling anyone who doesn't need to know, that includes my family and most of the homophobic NT society. A few good friends and lovers from extended relationships know.
My wife knows and we exist in a happy polyamorus relationship. 
Be well and have fun. |
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