League_Girl
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| Sweetleaf wrote: | | hanyo wrote: | I personally don't believe in mandatory drug testing. It's an invasion on privacy. I certainly wouldn't go along with it, especially if they were watching me like I've heard that they do these days.
I haven't done any kind of drug test since I was under 20 and then the only times they did them was when I was in "trouble" and getting locked up. Having to do a drug test just to get some job is ridiculous. |
What the hell I can't imagine peeing in front of someone watching me unless they gave me a towel to cover up with, but I'm not dropping my drawers in front of people I don't know end of story. |
You don't pee in front of someone. They give you a cup and you go to the restroom by yourself and pee in it and hand it to them. |
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Gravechylde
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| abacacus wrote: | | Gravechylde wrote: |
Instead of having tests upfront when hired, you could make the employees sign a consent form that if they start to fall behind in their workload, they will be drug tested. If you are not doing a good job with your work and you test positive for drugs, you are fired.
Let's say you build something for a living, and you normally build one per day, then all of a sudden you are only making one every 2-3 days. Now you will be drug tested, and if you have drugs in your system then you will be confronted and fired if that drug use seems to be what is interfering with your work.
I do think that some jobs should be mandatory, such as working directly with money. But if a construction worker builds what he needs to build when he needs to build it, who cares if he is on drugs at home? |
What if said builder is injecting speed in the wash room at lunch? He'll probably start making more than one per day. But, he's also much more likely to start ignoring any safety precautions his job requires. If an inspector pops up (which happens in factories, where I used to work we had 2 or 3 a month) and notices that, you're in trouble for not ensuring that your workers are following all established safety protocols. |
Ignoring safety restrictions are already a fast track to getting fired, regardless of what is causing them to ignore the rules.
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abacacus
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:22 am Post subject: |
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| Gravechylde wrote: |
Ignoring safety restrictions are already a fast track to getting fired, regardless of what is causing them to ignore the rules. |
Factories are hectic. It can easily go unnoticed, especially minor things (walking the short way that happens to pass through a dangerous area versus going around it it or some such). Some of those shortcuts can be extremely dangerous. One common one at my old job was to cut through the storage area for glass (it was a window factory). It wasn't rare for glass to fall, and those sheets of glass were several thousand pounds. More than one person was seriously hurt, one or two were killed.
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Gravechylde
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| abacacus wrote: | | Gravechylde wrote: |
Ignoring safety restrictions are already a fast track to getting fired, regardless of what is causing them to ignore the rules. |
Factories are hectic. It can easily go unnoticed, especially minor things (walking the short way that happens to pass through a dangerous area versus going around it it or some such). Some of those shortcuts can be extremely dangerous. One common one at my old job was to cut through the storage area for glass (it was a window factory). It wasn't rare for glass to fall, and those sheets of glass were several thousand pounds. More than one person was seriously hurt, one or two were killed. |
I'm sorry to hear about that happening to them, but how many of those injured were on drugs that caused them to ignore the restrictions rather than just trying saving time going to another part of the factory?
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abacacus
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| Gravechylde wrote: | | abacacus wrote: | | Gravechylde wrote: |
Ignoring safety restrictions are already a fast track to getting fired, regardless of what is causing them to ignore the rules. |
Factories are hectic. It can easily go unnoticed, especially minor things (walking the short way that happens to pass through a dangerous area versus going around it it or some such). Some of those shortcuts can be extremely dangerous. One common one at my old job was to cut through the storage area for glass (it was a window factory). It wasn't rare for glass to fall, and those sheets of glass were several thousand pounds. More than one person was seriously hurt, one or two were killed. |
I'm sorry to hear about that happening to them, but how many of those injured were on drugs that caused them to ignore the restrictions rather than just trying saving time going to another part of the factory? |
Officially, none.
From working there and knowing these people, most of them.
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