As a citizen of Sweden (and moderate socialist, in case that socialism is brought up as a possible reason behind this), I welcome the (hopefully) approaching hate fest against "my" country. :D I hate this place, but really, in truth, the whole world is crap in one way or another. But let us all joyfully discuss this particular crappiness, now. :)
On a more serious note, check out the photo of the boy, AFTER the Swedish "authorities" have kidnapped him. Look at that dead face. And even today, they will not admit that what they've done is wrong. Instead, they talk about cavities, and him being shy.
I started hating this country even more, when homeschooling was banned, here, in 2010, as homeschooling would've made all the difference for me (and for so many others on this site), but I suppose I have to hate it even more, now.
Swedens not a bad place to be if you're perfectly normal in every way.
If you're just a *little* different, not so much. I used to know a guy who lived in Sweden. I do believe he's dead now though. _________________ A shot gun blast into the face of deceit
You'll gain your just reward.
We'll not rest until the purge is complete
You will reap what you've sown.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:01 am Post subject:
Yeah, I would've killed myself, already, as well, if it wasn't for my lucky skills in manipulation and "diplomacy". I was SO close to almost being committed to a psych ward and "medicated" with anti-psychotics, and given ECT, just for everyday things that I'd *like* to mention, if I hadn't learned to be so paranoid, by now. I know I have lots of unusual views, but the things they saw as "disturbed" were things that I assure are quite "normal", whatever that is.
I still plan on taking my life, though, but I have finally found my true love, now, so it's going to have to wait a few years. I just hope they don't start harassing her, too. :/ In that unlucky event, I suppose we maybe could flee to Finland, like some other persecuted Swedes have done.
Yeah, this guy (from what I know at any rate) committed suicide for much the same reasons. he was just... pushed over the edge.It's a shame. _________________ A shot gun blast into the face of deceit
You'll gain your just reward.
We'll not rest until the purge is complete
You will reap what you've sown.
Swedens not a bad place to be if you're perfectly normal in every way.
If you're just a *little* different, not so much. I used to know a guy who lived in Sweden. I do believe he's dead now though.
It is difficult to distinguish between a dead person and a Swede. Sweden is among the ten most boring countries in the world.
Four hundred years of peace, brotherhood and democracy and what have they produced? The Volvo and ABBA.
ruveyn
Don't be dissin the Volvo. I love Volvos. xD _________________ A shot gun blast into the face of deceit
You'll gain your just reward.
We'll not rest until the purge is complete
You will reap what you've sown.
Swedens not a bad place to be if you're perfectly normal in every way.
If you're just a *little* different, not so much. I used to know a guy who lived in Sweden. I do believe he's dead now though.
It is difficult to distinguish between a dead person and a Swede. Sweden is among the ten most boring countries in the world.
Four hundred years of peace, brotherhood and democracy and what have they produced? The Volvo and ABBA.
ruveyn
And Ikea, and dynamite, and the Nobel Prize, and number of actors, and a unique socio-economic model, and some of the most promising techniques for storing nuclear waste, and a happy, healthy, well educated population, and a culture which is the world's third largest exporter of music, and Pippi Longstocking, and The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, and several other things as described here: Sweden Technology. Remember, we are talking about a country with a total population of 10 million people.There are individual cities with more people than that.
I was in Stockholm for a day last summer. I found it extremely pleasant. It was relaxed and pretty and well looked after. I guess some people consider that boring, but it struck me as a nice place to live (although an expensive one).
PS: don't diminish ABBA. They are awesome. As are Benny and Bjorn's two musicals, Chess and Kristina. The 80s hit "One Night in Bangkok" came from Chess, although in my opinion it is one of the show's worst songs. Anyway, as you can tell, I'm an ABBA fan...
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: The Swedish authorities' kidnapping of boy Domenic Johan
Beauty_pact wrote:
I started hating this country even more, when homeschooling was banned, here, in 2010, as homeschooling would've made all the difference for me (and for so many others on this site), but I suppose I have to hate it even more, now.
I find this quite hyperbolic. The Swedish government doesn't persecute homeschoolers or kidnap children, it tries to make sure that every child gets a decent public school education and a healthy dose of reality. If parents try to deny their children their right to an education and have their children taken away as a result, they are the ones who are to blame.
As someone who has grown up in a hyper-religious family and a Christian sect who would have loved to cut off all contact to the outside world, I hate to think how I might have turned out without Germany's compulsory public school system. I turned out quite dysfunctional as it is, but things would likely have been worse without school attendance, which was my only contact with reality, sanity, and mainstream society.
Nobody prohibits parents from teaching their children at home. People can still do that after public school hours. But I think it's a very bad idea to enable religious fundamentalists and other mentally disturbed parents to shield their children from the realities of life and raise them in a bubble of delusion. Watch the documentary "Jesus Camp" or the thriller "Frailty" to understand why this is dangerous and unhealthy. It takes a village to raise a child, and parents who try to raise their children without the help of the village aren't doing them any favors.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:58 pm Post subject:
CrazyCatLord wrote:
I find this quite hyperbolic. The Swedish government doesn't persecute homeschoolers or kidnap children, it tries to make sure that every child gets a decent public school education and a healthy dose of reality. If parents try to deny their children their right to an education and have their children taken away as a result, they are the ones who are to blame.
Parents educating and preparing their own children. How bloody f**king unnatural can it get?
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:56 pm Post subject:
ruveyn wrote:
CrazyCatLord wrote:
I find this quite hyperbolic. The Swedish government doesn't persecute homeschoolers or kidnap children, it tries to make sure that every child gets a decent public school education and a healthy dose of reality. If parents try to deny their children their right to an education and have their children taken away as a result, they are the ones who are to blame.
Parents educating and preparing their own children. How bloody f**king unnatural can it get?
ruveyn
we can easily agree that there are cases where that would be irresponsible to say the least.
which is excactly what is meant by hyperbole.
no one in these cases knows anything beyond what the government and news agencies tell us, something that makes objectivity especially troublesome when there are lobby groups involved. _________________ //through chaos comes complexity//
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woe be to the nose who nears it.
I find this quite hyperbolic. The Swedish government doesn't persecute homeschoolers or kidnap children, it tries to make sure that every child gets a decent public school education and a healthy dose of reality. If parents try to deny their children their right to an education and have their children taken away as a result, they are the ones who are to blame.
Parents educating and preparing their own children. How bloody f**king unnatural can it get?
ruveyn
Only problem is, people who are into the whole home schooling movement tend to be less than mainstream, to put it mildly. To put it less mildly, they're a bunch of f***ing loony tunes!