sMeow
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"Flash ult is a very important skill to have, if you have a high ping it makes it harder though, and sometimes they'll move to one sie just a bit an screw it up"
Well I've around 60 or 70 ms. Most player I see are between 40 and 80 so there's not much difference, though it can be annoying... I remember that moment when I flashed ult in front of the ennemies to save my carry... and they flashed in front on me just when I activated my ult so they could kill my carry... lol, epic fail. ~_~
I never played jungle, but I sometime play with a jungler so I try to use CV when I think the ennemy jungler is doing buffs, so I could give the timers and my jungler could counter-jungle, but it's not really easy since I don't exactly know when to do my CV on buffs. I know the timers, but I don't eactly know how much time it takes to go from blue to red for example, which is kinda annoying if I have to do CV.
I tried Lulu, but I don't really like her, I've a hard time playing with her CC and to manage the double way to activate her skills. The thing I really like with Janna is that one she has the control of the bushes, you don't know when she will do her tailwind ; it has a really good range and it appears Janna can't be seen unless the tailwind is "released" (atleast from what I've seen, they don't seem to see it ?) so it's an awesome way to harass the ennemies, even if they're at their tower. In fact I love the idea that if you have the bushes, they're permanently under pressure and they're hesitant to last hit, even at their towers ; I also prefer the CC given by the tailwind than the slow than Lulu.
Perhaps I'm just not trained enough to play well with her, but as a new support I think I should train my warding etc... before trying to play other types of support which are more difficult to play (for me). Plus she cost 6300... :'(
That's why I thought about Blitzcrank. If you have the control of the bushes, they will fear your Q... haha. 
What's your runes with Janna ? I don't find anything good, except gold/10... maybe flat mana regen to harass and shield in early when I don't have much mana.
Also... funny action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZQUWT796Gs#t=18m20s
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Shatbat
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I understand what you mean with Lulu, my first time with her I screwed up using her skills, I couldn't remember which button did what. I got better though. My ping is of 150 in a good day, with an average of 220. So... yeah, it sucks sometimes.
And by tailwind (Janna's passive, global movespeed buff) did you mean whirlwind? (her Q, tornado). Because it can be seen, and if they don't move out of the way it means they're bad =P. Still, I won't deny in some cases it's better than Lulu's, the longer range and the knockup that interrupts channeled abilities sure is great. What I like about Lulu's is that it deals more upfront damage, moves a bit faster, and if you cast E on another champ or another minion, your q will fire from there. I once got a kill by using e on an enemy champ, waiting until he was besides his lanemate (who was critically low) and glitterlancing from there. Having bush control is always great, with either champ.
Runes... I run flat magic pen reds for early game harass, flat mana regen yellows for... exactly what it says in the tin, and flat CDR blues (I would run scaling, but with masteries I have a grand total of 15% CDR at the beginning of the game, and with shurelya's 15% and ionian boot's 15% I actually end up over the 40% cap. Now that I think of it, I could replace these for flat AP for even better harass. Quintessences depend of your playstile. Gold/10 is not bad for a support, flat AP is useful for harassing, and the movespeed bonus ones don't hurt either.
I may try one day armor pen reds though, when I'm somehow Janna mid my preferred way to harass is shield + autoattack, and the runes would make that strategy much deadlier, especially because people in mid expect magic damage and get magic resist runes accordingly.
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sMeow
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:38 am Post subject: |
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"I understand what you mean with Lulu, my first time with her I screwed up using her skills, I couldn't remember which button did what. I got better though. My ping is of 150 in a good day, with an average of 220. So... yeah, it sucks sometimes. "
Ouch. ._.
Did you already open the ports etc. to make your ping less high ?
The only time I played Lulu, the game was in english and it was my very first time with a support... totally lost, I couldn't remember what skill was doing what too... ._.
"And by tailwind (Janna's passive, global movespeed buff) did you mean whirlwind? (her Q, tornado). Because it can be seen, and if they don't move out of the way it means they're bad =P"
Oh, yes... sorry. x)
Well, I probably play agaisnt bad players then, but it's undurstandable... I mean, the Q can load for... 5 secs ?, you can't know exactly where and when Janna will send it and it's not stopped by creeps ; on the other hand, you have to last hit, you can't just go away every time you see the tornado... and it's exactily what is annoying for the opponents : you know you have to last hit, you think you will avoid the tornado, you fire a minion and... bam, too late, the tornado was too fast, too big. Hehe.
Gold/10 runes on yellow + quintessences + masteries = 7.5/10 sec, so 1350 at 30 minutes of game ; it could be pretty usefull if you don't have your stuff too early...
CDR could be cool, but if you have to build a Zeke when you have 2/3 ADs you'll hit the 40% with Ionian + Shurelya... I hate when I lost some percent at the end. >.< xD
Movespeed, well, given your MS bonus is reduced after 400 and 450 (absolutely not sure of the numbers, have to verify) and that you easily reach a high move speed with Janna, I think it could be somewhat lost.
AP, Janna has really good ratios, so it could be interesting, but I'm wondering if it makes a real change. It could be interesting in a team where you have a lot of AP so WotA will be even better if they don't do it.
I never tried to go mid with Janna. I find she don't exploit her power in this lane. I'm more confortable with Anivia when I have to go there, so I can do some pro walls like this one :
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EroX0K5CS0&context=C4d7d8f7ADvjVQa1PpcFPNym6T9Z1bN-XgBIjNGqQK7iBIsZrTkMc=
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Shatbat
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:54 am Post subject: |
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Pro Anivia~
Janna is powerful in mid mainly because she's unexpected there. And... pairing that gp/5 you're getting with the 5 gp/5 I get with philo and heart of gold... wow. Have to try. Also, if I can time my tornado with the moment where my minions will be low enough to be last-hit... you just gave me a new idea there ^^.
AP Janna is ok, the thing is that most AP's have at least three amaging abilities that scale with AP for a better burst, and the very best of them (Swain, Brand, Cassiopea) have all four. Otherwise she's good, but her bigger shield/better ult will still be more useful as a support than as AP.
And about my ping, I live in South America, so that's probably it. Still, if there is a way to make LoL go faster, I got to try it. Time to go on the internet.
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sMeow
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:26 am Post subject: |
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Minions are low enough to be last hitted by Tornado when they're mid-life.
"AP Janna is ok, the thing is that most AP's have at least three amaging abilities that scale with AP for a better burst, and the very best of them (Swain, Brand, Cassiopea) have all four. Otherwise she's good, but her bigger shield/better ult will still be more useful as a support than as AP."
That's why I find that pretty stupid when people say "Janna mid" once the game has begun... she may be unexpected, and she will probably hold her lane well, but she hasn't the burst of a Brand or the harass of Cassiopeia which is kinda annoying in most of the games, you'll need some good ganks to kill. She is so more powerful in support... though it's pretty easy to go to mid when you've the advantage on your lane and gank well if the lane is a bit push and your ally has a pretty good DPS. So she could probably be pretty efficient in mid, but she lack of dps compared to the other mid, which is kinda annoying to take advantage.
Isn't there a South America server ?
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Shatbat
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:06 am Post subject: |
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There isn't a south-american server. That's why there is a lot of brazilian people on the US servers too xP.
And yeah, I only mid Janna when there are no other good options.
Btw, time to brag a bit 
Today was a great day for me in this game ^^
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sMeow
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:56 am Post subject: |
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Wow, you should have took PI bonus o,O :p
I also thought about some Blitzcrank builds. (don't mind about health regen / 5, it's about 100 but there's a bug with the masteries) ;
Support then tank AP : http://leaguecraft.com/builder/blitzcrank/?items=117,121,22,76,5,36&runes=55,55,55,55,55,55,55,55,55,98,98,98,98,98,98,98,98,98,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,75,75,75&level=18&masteries=0000000000000000001304001000000001030401400040301&skiller=qewqqrwwqwrqweeree
Support then tank AD : http://leaguecraft.com/builder/blitzcrank/?items=104,112,76,36,121,83&runes=55,55,55,55,55,55,55,55,55,98,98,98,98,98,98,98,98,98,45,45,45,45,45,45,45,45,45,75,75,75&level=18&masteries=1300400010000000000000000000000001030400400140301&skiller=qewwwrwewereeqqrqq
It's pretty insane in late game with his shield. This champ is really fun to play. ^-^
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Shatbat wrote: | Wanted to share this comic
Comic =D |
I had my first game in a long time the other day where the jungler cost us the game.
Jungle Shyvana.
I never like blaming it on one person, but that's just how it was... they f**** up the beginning, and it was just hell from that point.
The other team had a jungle Xin Zhao who obviously mained jungle... then our Shyvana was the last to pick in draft pick and we had all already requested positions, but we confirmed with the Shyv that they could do a decent job jungling. (S)he assured us.
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I was solo top Garen against a Cho. I love going solo top Garen because of dat passive. Take too much damage? That's okay, just fall back a bit to the turret and CS and let that passive kick in. I usually build tanky Garen when I'm solo top, but Cho would obviously get more tanky... He killed me once because of stupidity on my part (it was one of those things where we both did massive damage to each other, but one person ends up immediately killing and the other one waits for a spell or ability or a minion to die...) I hadn't done enough damage for him to die and he got away before more minion aggro affected him. 
Anyways, so our Shyv was being a sh** jungler; 10 min in and she's level 4. She tries to gank solo top for me when I'm level 9 or 10 and Cho is as well... not only that, but she has half health. So I'm like, "What the hell?" I don't get another gank because she's too busy trying to get XP in the jungle and catch up to Xin, who is consistently 4 or 5 levels ahead. (When he ganks, he doesn't let the lanes get the kill, which is kinda dumb on his part.)
So la-di-da-di-da... no ganks and we start to die because Xin is fed and provides pro ganks.
Surrender at 20.
And we were all level 30. I have decent ELO, and so does the person I was playing with.
I don't understand random matchmaking. I love playing with people I know, but unfortunately it's not always an option. (We were a group of 7 and me and the other guy duo queue'd while the others had a full team.)
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Quazar
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| Just started playing a week ago and love it. I still kind of suck at it but according to my brothers im learning fast. So far my favorite characters are Veigar and Ryze (only tried AP characters so far) |
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jmnixon95
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Yeah, it takes a lot of practice.
Why do you have the new Amumu splash art as your avatar if he's not one of your favorites? lol
I've had Malz as an avatar before.
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sMeow
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Playing with people I know is the only way to win for me. -.-"
Yesterday we said we were botlane premade in the champ select. Okay, we're second pick, one of the two random who was fp picks Varus. From this point it was already lost. However I was top against Cho with Kayle, botlane gave one kill to Cho (...) but still I went out of the lane with 200 cs, invaded their red, dodged Shen's gank four or five times so I though it was okay... Until the teamfights. My mates had a really good focus on the carries, I was dealing a lot of damages and everything... but Varus and the other were focusing Cho and Shen. At each teamfight. 3v5 ftw. And no wards from the support while we couldn't buy it, obviously.
Whether I play as solotop or as support, even if we're winning the lane or being ex-æquo, the randoms won't follow at engages and we will fail teamfight...
Btw : http://imgur.com/a/n8vc6 
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Quazar
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| jmnixon95 wrote: | Yeah, it takes a lot of practice.
Why do you have the new Amumu splash art as your avatar if he's not one of your favorites? lol
I've had Malz as an avatar before. |
Veigar is my desktop picture 
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Rudicuul
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Started playing this game again after quitting a year or so. Level 21 right now. But I came here because I wanted to complain about the community. EUW is a horrible place. Especially if you're not all that good. Like said before, I realise I make errors.. you don't have to remind me of them every 5 seconds. It's either that or not having the playstyle they want to see. Doing things your way is a bad way, it must be their way. I've got an NA account as well but the ping is just too high to play there (200+ ms).
So basically I ignore all the players in every game because I can't stand the bitching. And the 1/10 game that actually has nice players will have bad luck then with me not communicating.
I really love the game otherwise though. It's awesome. I mostly play Ashe because I love her, Ezreal is a cool dude as well. And the Hextech Jenna skin I got must be used sometimes as well. Because 'o dem titties. I just love the art they got behind all the skins you can buy in the store. Such a shame the skins themselves aren't that beautiful.
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SanityTheorist
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I recently was asked by a friend if I wanted to play league of legnds. I said yes, but the learning curve looks extremely sharp and like it'd take w hile of experimenting to get good at the game. Does anyone have some tips before I start playing? I usually like to use warrior characters with strong spells with highr attack than defense.
Game looks very fun when you get the hang of it
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Shau
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I can give you some tips:
1. The learning curve is vicious. You'll want some degree of confidence you'll actually care to play the game regularly cause getting to the point where you're even decent takes a lot of work.
2. Play bots until level 20 or so, and make sure you're familiar with at least 75% of the heroes and most of the items before going to human opponents. Don't fret about knowing each champion to a T, but be at least familiar with their main abilities.
3. Pick a champ and learn a build. It's not hard to find builds online, just google the champ name and "builds". Get good at this champ, and use it to "break into" the game. Once you're familiar with that champ and comfortable with it, pick another champ and do it again. Take advantage of the free weekly rotation to play all the champs a couple of times. By the time you're level 20, you'll have finished no. 2 above.
4. This game is very fun once you make it over the curve. Prepare to be addicted! |
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