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coolstertothecore
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| ScratchMonkey wrote: | | Atheist. The social networking of a church is useful, though, so I wish there were atheist "churches" that provided the same ability to meet people. (I hate bars and parties. I don't drink (much) and loud music and noise makes it impossible for me to understand what others say.) |
I've been wanting an atheist, or at least non-religious "church" for such a long time. I love the idea of meeting up with like-minded people once a week and having somewhere beautiful and quiet to sit and think but I don't think the Christians would appreciate me using their facilities. 
I'm surprised there are so many Christians here. Or maybe it's just that more Christians read the Politics, Philosophy and Religion section. Christianity, and most other religions, are the most illogical things I can think of so I've never believed in any of them. Apart from maybe when I was very young and assumed that it must be true because that's all anyone had told me up to that point. |
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Hoorahville
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| coolstertothecore wrote: | | I'm surprised there are so many Christians here. |
Something like a third of the world's population follows Christianity. |
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Ignition_Cognition
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| Sir_Sefirot wrote: | | Ignition_Cognition wrote: | Nonsense. I've rejected all religions all my life and I've got my own damn moral code and it does the job for me, I've never even hurt a fly. I've never really gotten into a fight with anyone, I've never betrayed someone or hurt someone just to get what I want.
No one can dare tell me how to live my life, because I'm quite capable of deciding for myself. Religion isn't necessary for me, in fact I'm far better off without it and I'm quite sure that I can't be the only one. |
I have no doubt about that  If all the humans were AS religions would be mainly unnecesary, since most of us have the rational and moral power not to need them. I was talking about NTs above. They DO need something to believe and to follow and to know how to behave. Pitty NTs. |
Yeah, I see your point. To be honest, I feel that most NTs tend to be more competitive, some perhaps willing to go a long way to get what they want, not really worrying about what they have to do to get it. I wonder if it's our laws and legal systems and culture in general that prevent them from destroying each other. I wonder if you were to take away religion completely, would the legal systems keep things going or would things begin to fall apart? I guess it would depend on the country in question and the systems and culture in place there. |
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richardbenson
Evil Egocentrical Existencialism
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no. i do believe jesus was god though. he defintley wasnt a christian, thats something men came up with.
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Bigben123
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| richardbenson wrote: | | no. i do believe jesus was god though. he defintley wasnt a christian, thats something men came up with. |
 Just a little note before anyone says anything else!
After Jesus died his followers did not call themselves Christian until Paul came along they were instead called followers of the way and what is quite sad is the word Christian, Has been in a way watered down to a bunch of men in white frocks which get up and say mass [no offence and i am a Christian!] but rather it has so much life in it many peopleaged 5-95 across the earth are followers of the way, now to be honest i dont think that there is much in a name or a title or a "Relgion" what is more than that is someones faith which is not in a Mosque or a temple or a Church its in your head and in your heart.
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amerikasend
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| Adolf Hitler was a Christian and was the man behind the holocaust. |
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Saepius
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Stalin was an atheist and he killed more than Hitler.
But neither point is really relevant. |
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amerikasend
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| Saepius wrote: | Stalin was an atheist and he killed more than Hitler.
But neither point is really relevant. |
Ya like a million more people. |
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snake321
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| Technically I am atheist, but I believe all the world religions might have been connected as UFO cover-ups, and all "miracles" could be explained as advanced technology far beyond our comprehension. My theories are far too complex to be given a name though. Some, not all, of what I speak, I feel adequately comfortable calling fact. if I had to choose something to call myself, I'd call myself a truth seeker. |
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AlexandertheSolitary
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| Sir_Sefirot wrote: | | Ignition_Cognition wrote: | Nonsense. I've rejected all religions all my life and I've got my own damn moral code and it does the job for me, I've never even hurt a fly. I've never really gotten into a fight with anyone, I've never betrayed someone or hurt someone just to get what I want.
No one can dare tell me how to live my life, because I'm quite capable of deciding for myself. Religion isn't necessary for me, in fact I'm far better off without it and I'm quite sure that I can't be the only one. |
I have no doubt about that 8) If all the humans were AS religions would be mainly unnecesary, since most of us have the rational and moral power not to need them. I was talking about NTs above. They DO need something to believe and to follow and to know how to behave. Pitty NTs. |
Look, I do not think having Asperger's Syndrome as I do makes one inherently more virtuous than neurotypicals, any more than it makes us inherently more depraved. Both propositions are patently ludicrous. Speaking for myself, I have virtues and vices - like most of humanity. |
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Sir_Sefirot
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| amerikasend wrote: | | Saepius wrote: | Stalin was an atheist and he killed more than Hitler.
But neither point is really relevant. |
Ya like a million more people. |
More like 50 million more people, minimum and that depends on what dead people are you counting and what not.
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Sir_Sefirot
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| AlexandertheSolitary wrote: |
Look, I do not think having Asperger's Syndrome as I do makes one inherently more virtuous than neurotypicals, any more than it makes us inherently more depraved. Both propositions are patently ludicrous. Speaking for myself, I have virtues and vices - like most of humanity. |
That's true. But what matters is WHAT virtues and vices we have - and collectively, AS are much moral and rational people than NTs, and that's what's really important. I'm not saying we are perfect; if I was I certainly wouldn't be lonely today . I'm just saying that our combination of virtues and vices equips us much better in the matters we are discussing.
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jspark-311
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I was raised Christian, but shunned the philosophy like a bad smell. Much to the chagrin of my parents. They dragged me to what most people would call a Pentecostal church service every Sunday. Everyone spoke in tongues and performed exorcisms, and this inflicted a good deal of psychological damage on my sisters and I.
I took a more pragmatic approach to "service to God", in that I hated the functionless social meeting of church, and preferred instead to donate my time to people who needed it.
After reading about psychology, I became agnostic (border-line atheist). In need of a new world-view, I drifted about aimlessly for a year or so, dropping off residual philosophical baggage as I went, until I encountered Secular Humanism. Moral relativism seems like the sanest stance in a world full of subjectivity and strife.
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Bigben123
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snake321 Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:49 am Post subject:
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Technically I am atheist, but I believe all the world religions might have been connected as UFO cover-ups, and all "miracles" could be explained as advanced technology far beyond our comprehension. My theories are far too complex to be given a name though. Some, not all, of what I speak, I feel adequately comfortable calling fact. if I had to choose something to call myself, I'd call myself a truth seeker.
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There have always been Groups talking about a higher power since time began, in the dark ages it was the god of the wind,the rain,the sun Etc etc, now could you snake321 give me a sum of your theories as to the UFO's and what the intentions of the little green men are? |
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GoatOnFire
Greatest Of All Time
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| snake321 wrote: | | Technically I am atheist, but I believe all the world religions might have been connected as UFO cover-ups, and all "miracles" could be explained as advanced technology far beyond our comprehension. My theories are far too complex to be given a name though. Some, not all, of what I speak, I feel adequately comfortable calling fact. if I had to choose something to call myself, I'd call myself a truth seeker. |
That pretty much makes you a scientologist.
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