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What type of autism do you have?

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What type of Autism do you have?

Asperger Syndrome

65%

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High Functioning Autism

23%

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PDD NOS

11%

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Total Votes : 80

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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:45 pm Post subject:

OddDuckNash, I'm highly curious as to what you'd say about me in terms of diagnosis. I truly fall somewhere between the cracks. I need a LOT more help with daily living than most people with Asperger's and have a lot more communication issues (I'm partially verbal, and a lot of what I do say doesn't make any sense to the rest of the world)... but I developed speech by age 2 though it wasn't... normal (learned to talk and read at the same time, actually), toilet trained at 23 months, walked on time, etc. I DID have a clear lack of interest in people and my environment, unless it was a cat or a doll. Nothing else mattered. So, what call you me?

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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:11 am Post subject:

Verdandi, TMS is amazing. I really hope I can get it done (along with an fMRI) someday. I want to be able to have it done on my brain someday. I want to experience what it feels like, particularly with speech. I'm very curious if you can still THINK in words while having TMS done on Broca's area. I recently saw some science show where some researcher was demonstrating TMS on himself while counting to 20. When the magnet was over Broca's area, his numbers turned into gibberish. But when the magnet was removed, he continued counting as if he never skipped a beat. So, 11-15 or so were gibberish, but when the magnet was removed, he instantly said "16." That fascinates me. Yeah, I felt the whole thing with Robinson and the sensory issues was out of line, too. And interestingly, tags in clothing was one of my biggest sensory issues as a preschooler. But they've rarely bothered me since about age 10 or so. It's pretty much the only sensory issue I've ever grown out of. --- SuperTrouper, Since you said you are partially verbal and often have difficulty in making people understand you communication-wise, as well as needing more assistance with daily living tasks, I would probably classify you as having autistic disorder. "Classic"/Kanner's autism is the type where individuals don't learn to speak at all; they're completely nonverbal. But people with autistic disorder develop language in varying degrees. So, language in autistic disorder can run the gamut from completely nonverbal to fluent speech. You seem to have all the diagnostic criteria, so that rules out PDD-NOS. Also, if you learned to read at age 2, you were probably hyperlexic. I was hyperlexic, too (taught myself to read at age 4), but hyperlexia can be found in individuals all over the spectrum. Have you ever received any formal diagnosis? If so, what was it? _________________ Helinger: Now, what do you see, John? Nash: Recognition... Helinger: Well, try seeing accomplishment! Nash: Is there a difference?

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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:54 am Post subject:

Neuropsychiatrist says "severe" AS... therapist says HFA... specialists at study was in say MFA. BSS says "super-HF-Asperger's" which is utter crap and another story.

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:09 am Post subject:

High Functioning Autism _________________ Diagnosed with HFA at age 3 Aspie quiz score - Your Aspie score: 139 of 200 Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 69 of 200 You are very likely an Aspie

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:02 am Post subject:

OJani wrote:

For the time being I assume I have AS with pronounced traits of inattentive type ADHD and some memory disorder along with learning difficulties, mainly verbal.

My autistic traits seem to be consistently less severe compared to what the majority of people have here (or it's just me being older?), except for communication, but chances are I meet the criteria of mild autism overall (currently AS, because of the absence of speech delay and a relative extroversion). I'm really keen on being evaluated professionally, I can hardly wait till its time comes...

Update!

Now I'm dx'd with PDD-NOS officially, but I don't agree with it completely. What I have is rather a mild form of AS with the traits I described above.

Unfortunately, I have trouble describing my condition as a mild form of autism or HFA, as people here still associate it with more severe traits, being almost non-verbal and disconnected from the world, even being mentally disabled significantly. Asperger's doesn't have that unfortunate connotation in my language, so it's better to say "I have AS" than "I'm autistic" here where I live.

I don't think that HFA and AS are that different, though. I have traits that resemble more of autism than the narrower NVLD-ish Asperger's stereotype.

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:28 am Post subject:

OddDuckNash99 wrote:

Verdandi wrote:

OddDuckNash99 wrote:

I have Asperger's. But I'm still not convinced that it is a form of autism. And this is why I think the DSM-V future changes are absolutely poor.

This needs a really strong argument to back it up.

I'm a neuroscientist, and I do not feel that Asperger's vs. HFA has been looked at nearly enough in neuroscientific research for us to TRULY conclude that AS is a form of autism. Some things just DO NOT fit. One of the biggest things about autism is language delay, which AS doesn't have. This lack of language delay has to mean something pretty substantial is different about the neurological connections between AS and HFA. Even if that's the only difference neuroscientifically speaking, it is STILL a difference, and rather than lumping together AS, HFA, and autistic disorder diagnoses just to get a large sample size, the research community needs to start separating the groups and looking at them individually. Why is there such a large amount of confounds in the autism research? Because putting a bunch of different diagnoses and severity levels is a confound.

So you're basing whether or not someone has autism on the single symptom of speech delay? I don't think typically lack of a single symptom excludes one from a diagnoses......hell I find the assertion that one 'must' have a speech delay or they don't have autism much more ridiculous than the idea that Aspergers is a form of Autism. Also speech delay is not the only thing that points to a substantial difference...that is just one thin the substantial difference can cause.

Not to mention some neurotypicals have speech delays...and if aspergers isn't autism what is it, also I find the spectrum idea to make much more sense........what you suggest sounds like you want them to make categories even more rigid and ensure everyone fits every single of the same symptoms to be diagnosed with a disorder...so yet many people that actually face major problems can be excluded form being diagnose with anything because they don't fit every single exact symptom.....even though its common knowledge mental disorders can present differently in different people.

Furthermore, some of us feel that AS is better described as a form of Nonverbal Learning Disorder, but again, this doesn't seem to be looked at in research studies. I refuse to say that I am autistic until I see the proof in research. Autism is a very serious disorder, and Kanner's autism involves lots of problems that I don't even remotely have. I don't think it's right to claim that I have a disorder as serious as autism when the neuroscience doesn't even support it 100%.

Considering a speech delay is only one possible symptom of autism, I don't see how autism can be considered a 'Verbal Learning Disorder, in fact I thought autism was a 'developmental disability' not a learning disability. Also there are different severity levels, don't call yourself autistic if you don't want to.....but don't try and claim anyone else with aspergers should do the same, some of us actually do struggle as un-serious of a disorder you might thing AS is.
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:15 pm Post subject:

none of thos ones. _________________ moderate low functining autistic (i was diagnosed with autism, not aspeger syndrome). my picture is my ear defenders that i wear all the time. pictured is silencio earmuff, l1 howard leight, i also own 12 howard leight (not pictured) .

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:57 pm Post subject:

Interesting - PDD/NOS, who apparently is the more common type of autism, is the more rare in this forum; perhaps many people diagnosed with PDD/NOS are young children who are re-diagnosed with other label when they grow?

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:09 pm Post subject:

TPE2 wrote:

Interesting - PDD/NOS, who apparently is the more common type of autism, is the more rare in this forum; perhaps many people diagnosed with PDD/NOS are young children who are re-diagnosed with other label when they grow?

Probably. Also, most people who were dx'd with it or their parents are just unaware that this is a kind of ASD. Plus, there's no such thing as PDD-NOS awareness or identity, unlike Asperger's, as it's a vague term, an unrecognized label that basically tells nothing about the person dx'd with it. I may go on and on rambling about it, these facts would remain the same. I'm glad that it will seize to exist, at least under the DSM.

Probably these are the reasons (among possible others) why AS is considered a somewhat popular label among ASDs, and most likely given to high functioning autistics these days.

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:30 pm Post subject:

I have a diagnosis of PDD-NOS, though I think I also fit nicely into the Asperger's category. I believe I'm also diagnosed with Social Anxiety Disorder, which fits me nicely, but shouldn't that already be covered be PDD-NOS?

TPE2 wrote:

I think it's probably because the NOSers just don't come to this site as often, being more "normal" and all.

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:07 pm Post subject:

AS with Gillberg's Criteria [Mild] Autistic Disorder with the DSM-IV-TR Diagnosed with both there.

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:14 pm Post subject:

Hard to pick one when you have both High Functioning Autism and Aspergers. but I picked Aspergers even though I have both. _________________ Your Aspie score is 193 of 200 Your neurotypical score is 40 of 200 You are very likely an aspie No matter where I go I will always be a Gaijin even at home. Like Anime? http://www.anime44.com/anime-list

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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:18 am Post subject:

I am amused to reread my discussion about AS and autism with OddDuckNash earlier in this thread. Just had the same discussion again more recently (just shorter). I wonder how many more times that will happen.