Joined: Jan 07, 2011 Age: 23 Posts: 14869 Location: Somewhere in Colorado
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:49 pm Post subject: Society makes me sick
So I have come to the conclusion that is where many of my issues stem from....what to do with this? _________________ It's like alice in wonderland except, my names not alice and this is the real world not a dream.
Joined: Jan 07, 2011 Age: 23 Posts: 14869 Location: Somewhere in Colorado
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:55 pm Post subject:
Blueberrypie wrote:
Welcome to reality!
Your question? Do like everyone else!
Edit:
If all your issues stems from society, you need to realize you're f****. I have no advice whatsoever. Good luck!
I pretty much agree with that.......I mean how is anyone supposed to know what I should do when even I don't. but thanks just the same feedback helps me learn so yeah. I just don't know what to do with myself. _________________ It's like alice in wonderland except, my names not alice and this is the real world not a dream.
Alright, I might as well pop up with a singular advice: Get a job.
I'll assume you have sensory issues, live at home and have finished with college.
If you want to get your sh** together, know that it's never a 'big decision', or some sort of wild epiphany that will set you on the straight path. It's the force of will that keep you persistent and stable when doing 'the little things'. That's it. You just need to do the 'little things' that's positive for you and will facilitate your own growth.
A job? Mailman. It's simple, stable and easy to do. Neither does it force you to socialize with other people. There's a silver lining out there. HAHAHA. Lol. Silver lining? Well... Why not?
Joined: Feb 15, 2011 Posts: 923 Location: mostly, in my head.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: Society makes me sick
Sweetleaf wrote:
So I have come to the conclusion that is where many of my issues stem from....what to do with this?
Withdraw from society? Find a nice quiet place somewhere where people won't bother you and you can live self-sufficiently. It's a nice dream - even for someone like me who doesn't share your feeling that society makes me sick. And some people actually achieve that dream.
We can't change society. People say when you can't change something that you have trouble with, you should change your reaction to it. Unfortunately, I'm at a complete loss as to how you actually do that ... _________________ Female. Dx ASD in 2011 @ Age 38. Also Dx EDD/BPD
A job? Mailman. It's simple, stable and easy to do. Neither does it force you to socialize with other people. There's a silver lining out there. HAHAHA. Lol. Silver lining? Well... Why not?
It also isn't worth doing. They don't hire full time employees anymore. They hire part time people, who have to use their own cars, get no benefits and get paid about 1/3rd an hour what the people hired during the 90's get paid.
I'm sorry to say Sweetleaf, you basically have finally come to the ultimate realization of the world. there is nothing that can be done about it. It's something I struggle with constantly. If I go with the flow, rather than doing what I know is correct, I feel as if I'm capitulating to outside demands all the time.. which makes me hate myself. On the other hand, if I constantly plant my feet and refuse to do anything I don't agree with or which i feel I shouldn't have to do.. I get ignored, moved over, or some other method of being marginalized or sidelined.
Joined: Jan 07, 2011 Age: 23 Posts: 14869 Location: Somewhere in Colorado
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:29 pm Post subject:
Blueberrypie wrote:
Alright, I might as well pop up with a singular advice: Get a job.
I'll assume you have sensory issues, live at home and have finished with college.
If you want to get your sh** together, know that it's never a 'big decision', or some sort of wild epiphany that will set you on the straight path. It's the force of will that keep you persistent and stable when doing 'the little things'. That's it. You just need to do the 'little things' that's positive for you and will facilitate your own growth.
A job? Mailman. It's simple, stable and easy to do. Neither does it force you to socialize with other people. There's a silver lining out there. HAHAHA. Lol. Silver lining? Well... Why not?
I have sensory issues, live at home(kind of, I spend a lot of time at a friends house), and I was not able to complete college hence looking for work instead which I have been doing. But yeah I honestly don't even know what a 'straight' path would look like....let alone how to navigate one. And no matter how many of these little things I do, nothing really ever seems to change in the end.
And I can't be a mail man...not because I am physically female, but because I don't even have a drivers licence at 22 going on 23.
and because you said silver lining I have to post this:
_________________ It's like alice in wonderland except, my names not alice and this is the real world not a dream.
Joined: Oct 28, 2011 Posts: 39 Location: Rhode Island
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:32 pm Post subject:
As someone who also is a misanthropist, I feel your pain. One thing I've realized in my short 24 years of being on this planet is there is no avoiding society no matter how much you try to separate yourself from it. If you figure it out though let me know, I'd follow your steps.
Joined: Jan 07, 2011 Age: 23 Posts: 14869 Location: Somewhere in Colorado
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:38 pm Post subject:
Mankey wrote:
As someone who also is a misanthropist, I feel your pain. One thing I've realized in my short 24 years of being on this planet is there is no avoiding society no matter how much you try to separate yourself from it. If you figure it out though let me know, I'd follow your steps.
Yeah I know, and it's so bloody frusterating, trying not to draw attention to myself while being so different from what society thinks I should be. There is stigma, I can tell by the way some people look at me.........I know people see me and think 'freak, druggy, useless f*ck, ect.' well they are close minded...and can say whatever they want I guess. And this does not make me want to fit in, but even so how am I supposed to make a living? I just don't understand, I don't know if I was ever meant to understand. _________________ It's like alice in wonderland except, my names not alice and this is the real world not a dream.
Joined: Oct 28, 2011 Posts: 39 Location: Rhode Island
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:54 pm Post subject:
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Yeah I know, and it's so bloody frustrating, trying not to draw attention to myself while being so different from what society thinks I should be. There is stigma, I can tell by the way some people look at me.........I know people see me and think 'freak, druggy, useless f*ck, ect.' well they are close minded...and can say whatever they want I guess. And this does not make me want to fit in, but even so how am I supposed to make a living? I just don't understand, I don't know if I was ever meant to understand.
Best way to avoid the societal "court" per say is don't give them anything to single out as weird, individualism is important but remember there is a huge difference between conformity and conforming to the weird. If weird is your thing wear it like a badge, once people see insults don't get you down, they'll get bored fast. When going for a job dress above what the employment requires and be personable, even if its not your real self, all employers will want a employee they can tolerate above qualification. One warning about jobs though is you need to realize, its high school for adults 90% of the time, 10% work. That's the one thing they don't tell you in school, you'll never escape the childish games, drama, and being forced into niches that might share some of your interests.
Joined: Jan 07, 2011 Age: 23 Posts: 14869 Location: Somewhere in Colorado
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:54 pm Post subject:
Mankey wrote:
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Yeah I know, and it's so bloody frustrating, trying not to draw attention to myself while being so different from what society thinks I should be. There is stigma, I can tell by the way some people look at me.........I know people see me and think 'freak, druggy, useless f*ck, ect.' well they are close minded...and can say whatever they want I guess. And this does not make me want to fit in, but even so how am I supposed to make a living? I just don't understand, I don't know if I was ever meant to understand.
Best way to avoid the societal "court" per say is don't give them anything to single out as weird, individualism is important but remember there is a huge difference between conformity and conforming to the weird. If weird is your thing wear it like a badge, once people see insults don't get you down, they'll get bored fast. When going for a job dress above what the employment requires and be personable, even if its not your real self, all employers will want a employee they can tolerate above qualification. One warning about jobs though is you need to realize, its high school for adults 90% of the time, 10% work. That's the one thing they don't tell you in school, you'll never escape the childish games, drama, and being forced into niches that might share some of your interests.
I doubt my dress is an issue for jobs, I mean I do tone the rocker/metalhead style down quite a bit, I still like wearing black but that can look professional. I just have no idea how to act 'normal' so that sometimes gets in the way. _________________ It's like alice in wonderland except, my names not alice and this is the real world not a dream.
Joined: Jan 07, 2011 Age: 23 Posts: 14869 Location: Somewhere in Colorado
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:57 pm Post subject:
I wish I was like Ozzy Osbourne, then I would just do whatever the hell I feel like and it would work out.....lol. _________________ It's like alice in wonderland except, my names not alice and this is the real world not a dream.
Joined: Oct 28, 2011 Posts: 39 Location: Rhode Island
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:33 pm Post subject: Re: Society makes me sick
SpiritBlooms wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
So I have come to the conclusion that is where many of my issues stem from....what to do with this?
Society IS sick. But there are many nice individuals in it. It's a mob mentality that is the problem, as I see it. Mobs don't run things very well.
On the contrary literal mobs run local governments quite well, being from Rhode Island I've been able to see this first hand. Once they ran out the Italian Mob out of power positions in Providence greedy and even more corrupt representatives ran the city into near bankruptcy. Even though not everything the mob does is "legal", they truly care about the local people above all. Sweetleaf you should try and getting a job where you can work from home, don't know what you went to school for, but 70% of firefox employees work from home, there are many companies that are web based and don't require you to ever see a person.
