SyphonFilter
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| Joe90 wrote: | | The way they get eachother's jokes but never get mine, even though I get their jokes |
So true! Or, if you have a sibling that's younger than you, your parents don't question/supervise what they do. But anything you do, they'll demand to know every aspect of where you're going and when you'll be back. Makes me think I'm retarded (which, deep down, I refuse to believe). |
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SyphonFilter
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| Steven_Tyler77 wrote: | Why they can't debate on a subject without taking it personally and without getting angry when the person they're talking to disagrees with them. Why so many of them resort to calling people stupid when they run out of logical arguments.
Why, although they don't like logical debate, they seem to thrive in the realm of interpersonal conflict. I mean, they so easily get worked up on some minor thing and stir up a whole lot of drama and conflict. I so hate this, I'm so sensitive that fighting with someone totally makes me sick.
Why the vast majority of them have absolutely no theory of mind even towards other NTs (as much as the psychologists would like us to believe that). |
I too hate hearing people yell at each other. They need to calm down. Because 99.9% of the time, the argument is over some issue so petty I'm stumped as to why people would be in conflict over it. |
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SyphonFilter
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| Steven_Tyler77 wrote: | Why they can't debate on a subject without taking it personally and without getting angry when the person they're talking to disagrees with them. Why so many of them resort to calling people stupid when they run out of logical arguments.
Why, although they don't like logical debate, they seem to thrive in the realm of interpersonal conflict. I mean, they so easily get worked up on some minor thing and stir up a whole lot of drama and conflict. I so hate this, I'm so sensitive that fighting with someone totally makes me sick.
Why the vast majority of them have absolutely no theory of mind even towards other NTs (as much as the psychologists would like us to believe that). |
I too hate hearing people yell at each other. They need to calm down. Because 99.9% of the time, the argument is over some issue so petty I'm stumped as to why people would be in conflict over it. |
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SyphonFilter
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| Steven_Tyler77 wrote: | Why they can't debate on a subject without taking it personally and without getting angry when the person they're talking to disagrees with them. Why so many of them resort to calling people stupid when they run out of logical arguments.
Why, although they don't like logical debate, they seem to thrive in the realm of interpersonal conflict. I mean, they so easily get worked up on some minor thing and stir up a whole lot of drama and conflict. I so hate this, I'm so sensitive that fighting with someone totally makes me sick.
Why the vast majority of them have absolutely no theory of mind even towards other NTs (as much as the psychologists would like us to believe that). |
I too hate hearing people yell at each other. They need to calm down. Because 99.9% of the time, the argument is over some issue so petty I'm stumped as to why people would be in conflict over it. |
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Disraeli
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| I always found figure of speech to be difficult, as when I was younger I used to take figure of speech - like "pull up your socks" - literally. However, as I have grown older figure of speech has become easier to understand, but there are still some sayings I don't understand. |
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Mayel
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| SyphonFilter wrote: | | Or, if you have a sibling that's younger than you, your parents don't question/supervise what they do. But anything you do, they'll demand to know every aspect of where you're going and when you'll be back. Makes me think I'm retarded (which, deep down, I refuse to believe). |
Yes, that happens to me all to often. I'm supervised much much more than my brother. And sometimes I think they think I'm too gullible, innocent and naive or something like that.
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League_Girl
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| bettalove wrote: | | I'm confused by the lack of directness. For example, rather than saying "Can you take out the trash?" a NT might say "Huh. The trash is full." when they're actually hoping to get someone to take it out. I can't wrap my head around why they just wouldn't be direct with their request in the first place. |
Weird, people have always asked me to empty it out or take it out and I have heard them say the same to others. |
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League_Girl
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| SyphonFilter wrote: | | Steven_Tyler77 wrote: | Why they can't debate on a subject without taking it personally and without getting angry when the person they're talking to disagrees with them. Why so many of them resort to calling people stupid when they run out of logical arguments.
Why, although they don't like logical debate, they seem to thrive in the realm of interpersonal conflict. I mean, they so easily get worked up on some minor thing and stir up a whole lot of drama and conflict. I so hate this, I'm so sensitive that fighting with someone totally makes me sick.
Why the vast majority of them have absolutely no theory of mind even towards other NTs (as much as the psychologists would like us to believe that). |
I too hate hearing people yell at each other. They need to calm down. Because 99.9% of the time, the argument is over some issue so petty I'm stumped as to why people would be in conflict over it. |
That's why I enjoy dramas so much. they are so fun to read even if they do irk me. Then I am wondering why am I reading all this if it's making me mad? But I just find it all so interesting and how people think. Then I get bored with it after a while because I am like "okay enough of that" because it lasts for pages and pages. But sometimes I literally forget about the whole thing so I end up not visiting that thread again. |
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Joe90
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When a lot of women seem to think being fat is a crime, or people will ridicule them if they appear anywhere over 10 stone, in which they won't unless they are stupid kids or very immature adults who's standards are very high.
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evil_expresso
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Strong emphasis on sex.
Gossip.
Pop culture interest.
Exclusion.
Over reacting to pointless matters.
Getting into my business when clearly I'm irked.
Talking a great deal; juggling several conversations.
Talking behind one's back.
Not being direct and/or honest.
However, I get along with my NT counterparts and try not to judge them 
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Joe90
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Not sure if this is a trait, but it's certainly something what seems like they have to do, and that is getting attracted by someone of the opposite sex on holiday (especially when they're young). A boy always has to have a crush on a sexy cute cocktail waitress, or a girl always has to really fancy a cute young fella at the bar - and they always manage to get talking to them too.
It just pisses me off, and this is one of the reasons why I hate being an Aspie. I've always got to spend every vacation standing looking at people flirting about and fancying eachother. Even if I try to smile and be friendly and dress up nicely, I still don't get fancied by cute fellas at the bar because of ''the vibe'' again.
If ''the vibe'' was alive, I would f***ing shoot it. I hate vibes. They are what f***ing spoil my life.
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| bettalove wrote: | | I'm confused by the lack of directness. For example, rather than saying "Can you take out the trash?" a NT might say "Huh. The trash is full." when they're actually hoping to get someone to take it out. I can't wrap my head around why they just wouldn't be direct with their request in the first place. |
Ah, this. The other day my mom told me to take my trash downstairs, and I did it immediately so as not to get her mad. Half an hour later she comes up to my room and asks if I'm just leaving it there for her to take out herself  I keep asking her if she can be more direct with me but she never does it. I wonder sometimes if it's something she really can't help doing, just like I can't help not reading into what she wants me to do.
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Bun
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| League_Girl wrote: | | SyphonFilter wrote: | | Steven_Tyler77 wrote: | Why they can't debate on a subject without taking it personally and without getting angry when the person they're talking to disagrees with them. Why so many of them resort to calling people stupid when they run out of logical arguments.
Why, although they don't like logical debate, they seem to thrive in the realm of interpersonal conflict. I mean, they so easily get worked up on some minor thing and stir up a whole lot of drama and conflict. I so hate this, I'm so sensitive that fighting with someone totally makes me sick.
Why the vast majority of them have absolutely no theory of mind even towards other NTs (as much as the psychologists would like us to believe that). |
I too hate hearing people yell at each other. They need to calm down. Because 99.9% of the time, the argument is over some issue so petty I'm stumped as to why people would be in conflict over it. |
That's why I enjoy dramas so much. they are so fun to read even if they do irk me. Then I am wondering why am I reading all this if it's making me mad? But I just find it all so interesting and how people think. Then I get bored with it after a while because I am like "okay enough of that" because it lasts for pages and pages. But sometimes I literally forget about the whole thing so I end up not visiting that thread again. |
I always loved dramas too, that's why when I used to read the papers, I'd read the section where readers write in. In some ways, I love seeing how people's minds work, and how much you can get out of someone when they're speaking about an emotive topic. |
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vampresstcullen
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:09 pm Post subject: Re: Which NT Traits Baffle you the Most? |
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| StarTrekker wrote: | | For me one of them is definitely when they say things like, "It's rude to interrupt people when they're talking," as if it's one of those ancient carved-in-stone things, and yet, every time they get together in groups of three or more, they're so busy talking over one another that none of them ever finishes a sentence. It makes it really hard to determine when it's okay to interrupt people mid-sentence and when it's not. I personally don't like people doing it to me ever, and I don't like doing it to others, but sometimes it's the only way to get a word in edgewise, but every time I do it, I'm so busy focusing on trying to decide if I screwed up by talking over somebody that I never hear the response to what I just said! |
Yay, a thread where people pin a trait to a general demographic and complain about it! You don't think other autistics talk about what they think is rude? For the rest of the post, one idea is you could interject when you have an exciting idea, for example, related to what the person is talking about... seems like that'd be forgiven... other wise wait for a pause and be first, I guess? Then if someone else decides to speak its just that you two did it at the same time. |
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vampresstcullen
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| evil_expresso wrote: | Strong emphasis on sex.
Gossip.
Pop culture interest.
Exclusion.
Over reacting to pointless matters.
Getting into my business when clearly I'm irked.
Talking a great deal; juggling several conversations.
Talking behind one's back.
Not being direct and/or honest.
However, I get along with my NT counterparts and try not to judge them |
HAHAHA... you think other autistics don't do this? omg, so many examples I just ran into TODAY in the autistic community on this post! An autistic chat I go to has been considered in such shambles once that it was called a cesspool of drama! Yes, I get it. Autism makes people so darned perfect. It is an exception to find an autistic girl or guy who is OBSESSED with sex, over reacts, gets into others business, talks about others, lies, and isn't direct or tries to be sly or cryptic. /sarcasm. |
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