nebrets
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 Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:23 pm Post subject: Anyone suceeded with meditation? |
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I have a problem with thinking continuously. All day thoughts are going through my head very fast, this is distracting during the day but it also makes sleeping difficult, and it is then hard to remember a list of things to do.
So I have thought about trying meditation, but I feel that my thoughts are too many and I am barely able to acknowledge a thought before a new thought (or three) come in.
Does anyone have any advice? |
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ThinkTrees
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I am happiest, clearest, best..when I meditate regularly.
My favourite meditation is TM, but there are probably others of equal efficiency.
Enjoy 
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| try a guided imagery hypnosis relaxation CD. it helps you focus, but you don't have to empty your mind of absolutely everything. |
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| Have you ever considering becoming mathematician or scientist? If you choose that career path it would be GOOD that you have so many thoughts -- in fact it would put you into distinct advantage compared to others who have difficulty forcing themselves to think. So please don't get rid of such a wonderful gift. Use it instead! |
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nebrets
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| Roman wrote: | | Have you ever considering becoming mathematician or scientist? If you choose that career path it would be GOOD that you have so many thoughts -- in fact it would put you into distinct advantage compared to others who have difficulty forcing themselves to think. So please don't get rid of such a wonderful gift. Use it instead! |
I am a biologist and am considering going back for urban planning or civil engineering. Yes, it helps to process ideas quickly in those fields, but it does not help me sleep with out meds. |
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ouinon
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| Diet can make a huge difference. I have found that dairy is terrible for producing racing thoughts which won't stop. Cheese especially, but any kind of dairy food will do it. And coffee too, obviously, plus gluten/wheat to some extent. |
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^ Agree. Dairy is surprisingly bad that way.
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| Dairy can cause racing thoughts? I quit it for a time (brush with veganism) and the arthritis in one of my fingers disappeared but I didn't realize it might also affect arousal levels. Could you link to some sources for research purposes? I'm very lazy. |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone suceeded with meditation? |
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| nebrets wrote: | I have a problem with thinking continuously. All day thoughts are going through my head very fast, this is distracting during the day but it also makes sleeping difficult, and it is then hard to remember a list of things to do.
So I have thought about trying meditation, but I feel that my thoughts are too many and I am barely able to acknowledge a thought before a new thought (or three) come in.
Does anyone have any advice? |
Nebrets-Currently I do yoga one or more times per week and although it may not stop the racing thoughts it does help me relax. Youtube has meditation videos and I have tried those as well there is even a type of meditation that is supposed to help PTSD suffers relax and I cannot recall the name of the type of meditation. Also exercise in general can help a person deal with stress or racing thoughts.
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ouinon
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| cozysweater wrote: | | Dairy can cause racing thoughts? I quit it for a time (brush with veganism) and the arthritis in one of my fingers disappeared but I didn't realize it might also affect arousal levels. Could you link to some sources for research purposes? I'm very lazy. |
I don't have any sources/refs/links for the dairy effect; it's just something that I have observed over and over again.
It may have something to do with the food opioid present in casein/dairy protein, which in those people with unusually permeable intestines, ( which is about 5% of the general pop and 36% of people on the autism spectrum, according to a study and related articles which I'll go find links for if you're interested, I posted them recently for someone else on another thread on here about dairy and wheat having a druggie effect on someone :lol ), can reach the brain and alter/disturb various chemical pathways ( esp serotonin, dopamine, GABA and endorphins ), producing noticeable changes in mood, cognitive and executive function, etc etc etc.
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cozysweater
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Interesting! What with all this "pink slime" and mad cow in the news right now, I'd stopped eating meat again. Possibly I should chuck the dairy too. (although melons killed something like 35 people last year, so nothing in the U.S. food supply is safe anymore)
I don't think I ever addressed the original question: Remember that meditation is something you practice, you don't actually have to get it "right". Sometimes it's excrutiating and my thoughts just won't stop, but other times I can really get focused on my breathing and those monkey-brain thoughts get quiet. 45 beautiful peace-filled minutes will pass in a flash. |
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I like to meditate in bed just before going to sleep. My personal preference is I like to sleep in the buff, so I'm laying flat on my back comfortably with my eyes closed. Sometimes it seems like there can be a kind of visual static imagery that I observe in the dark.
Sometimes with this it helps to allow a mild focus on something besides your thoughts. For example breathing meditation just observing the breath sensation. Or find a Mantra word you repeat mentally. Sometimes I do both. One word as I breath in and one word as I breath out and repeat.
This can sometimes go smoothly or I might have a minimal amount of thought jumble that refuses to go away easily. Commonly this turns into a song fragment that is stuck in my head as if my brain doesn't want to let go. When it goes well I feel like I'm almost in a state between wakefulness and sleep. I do that for about 20 minutes. Then I stretch and roll to the side and knockout into sleep fast. |
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Roman
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| nebrets wrote: | | Roman wrote: | | Have you ever considering becoming mathematician or scientist? If you choose that career path it would be GOOD that you have so many thoughts -- in fact it would put you into distinct advantage compared to others who have difficulty forcing themselves to think. So please don't get rid of such a wonderful gift. Use it instead! |
I am a biologist and am considering going back for urban planning or civil engineering. Yes, it helps to process ideas quickly in those fields, but it does not help me sleep with out meds. |
Why are you going back to urban planing? I think biology is far more prestigious, and it also would utilize your brain more. I suggest you stay a biologist. |
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| ive had some suprising success with meditation more than i expected. with a bit of preperation i can detatch from physical pain for around 15-20 minutes after the meditation stops. Its a weird feeling to be able to observe pain but not react to it |
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Joker
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| I have pleny of times when I am super angry and I am seeing nothing but red it is good to meditate. |
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