richardbenson
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| personally, I think censorship of any kind is awful. |
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hyperlexian
loves the man who typed too much and ran outta spa
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 2:42 am Post subject: |
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| richardbenson wrote: | | personally, I think censorship of any kind is awful. |
then you are on the wrong site (and perhaps in the wrong country, but that's neither here nor there)
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DW_a_mom
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| League_Girl wrote: | | PM wrote: | | League_Girl wrote: | I have noticed that with different mods, this rule does change because one word may be acceptable and then all of a sudden it isn't. I once got a warning for calling myself an as*hole and then under the new staff team that word was acceptable to use.
Makes things confusing and I don't mean to break the rules here if it happens. |
It seems the rules are open to interpretation unfortunately. |
I think the rules change because it depends on the staff and how they interpret the rules so therefore the rules change. |
It can be hard to know how the TOS are supposed to be enforced. Since we have an auto-filter, does that mean any attempt to swear is an offense, even if it comes out edited, or just swearing that isn't censored (usually because the poster successfully evades the censor)? When I first became a moderator, it was assumed that it was the former, but later Alex posted differently, ie let the auto-censor do its job and not spend time on those instances. Even though I am no longer a moderator, it is my understanding that the later is still the rule of the land. However, the TOS most definitely gives the moderators the authority to censor all attempts to evade the auto-censor, as it should, and to clear posts that contribute nothing of substance but are just rants full of auto-censored words. I wouldn't want to get rid of the rule just because there is an auto-censor, because there ARE times people get a little too creative working around the censor, or overly rely on the censor to basically vent out a storm.
As a parent, I do feel the auto-censor is fine for the words it covers; I can handle my kids seeing F&!@&! and the like. Very young kids don't know what the real word is and older kids get the message that while some adults use those words, they are not considered publicly acceptable. Kids are exposed to swearing quite a lot, no matter how hard you try to shelter them, so teaching them how to handle it and not adopt it is an important aspect of parenting.
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TallyMan
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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| DW_a_mom wrote: | | When I first became a moderator, it was assumed that it was the former, but later Alex posted differently, ie let the auto-censor do its job and not spend time on those instances. Even though I am no longer a moderator, it is my understanding that the later is still the rule of the land. However, the TOS most definitely gives the moderators the authority to censor all attempts to evade the auto-censor, as it should, and to clear posts that contribute nothing of substance but are just rants full of auto-censored words. I wouldn't want to get rid of the rule just because there is an auto-censor, because there ARE times people get a little too creative working around the censor, or overly rely on the censor to basically vent out a storm. |
Alex told me (around a year ago) that attempts to circumvent the swearing filters break the rules, though he was relaxed about minor swear words being used that aren't included in the filter.
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CyborgUprising
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| Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| all_white wrote: | Nope, it's not "my" problem. It's Alex's problem. He wrote a set of rules for his website but they are being enforced selectively. The "no personal attacks" rule is always enforced. Someone was banned from here temporarily for just one personal attack. Yet the mods choose to ignore the no swearing rule, and people are effing and blinding all over the place, with no respect for the rules, with repeated offenders not getting even one infraction.
I agree some words are in a grey area. Different people may put the same word in a different category. There's also a difference between UK English and US. I was brought up to think that it's OK to say "crap"
*waits to see if forum software blanks that out or not*
and to me, that word is slang, not swearing. But one day a little girl was horrified when I said it, and told me in a shocked voice: "that's swearing!" From then on I've tried to remember not to use that word because although it's not offensive to me, it may be to others. |
There are plenty of comments that are attacking users or at least can easily be construed as such. It's difficult to know the nuances of speech when it's typed and not heard. Emoticons and bold/italics can only go so far. |
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