...you're isolated, you spend a lot of time getting kicked, you have a hard time relating to the majority of people...
...and when you ask for help to figure out why, people tell you that it's your fault for being yourself, that you're stupid and lazy and weak, or that you have this condition-- this disorder-- that means you have to not only learn to suppress who you are but also accept living a life of pretty severe other-imposed limitations (that may or may not be the limits of your abilities).
And if you don't accept that, they'll be happy to drug you until they prove it's true.
Hm.
Would an Aspie be more likely than the average person to commit suicide??
Can't imagine why!!!
(By the way, sarcasm is not within the limits of an Aspie's capabilities!!!)
Yes, the preceding two statements are, indeed, sarcastic. I learned it late, but I love it so. _________________ I'm tired. I do not have sufficient strength remaining to persevere in the face of adversity. I accept myself as broken and conformity/compliance as the only acceptable existence. I give up.
I think I remember reading about her suicide, she used the bag method.
gosh where did you find that out?
I don't recall where I read it, some article saying something about her being asphyxiated w/ bag over her head. that's the "bag method". I can explain if curious.
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 3:47 am Post subject:
Suspie wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Suspie wrote:
I think I remember reading about her suicide, she used the bag method.
gosh where did you find that out?
I don't recall where I read it, some article saying something about her being asphyxiated w/ bag over her head. that's the "bag method". I can explain if curious.
if it came to be my time, i'd much prefer the hibachi method.
Sad to say, my suicide attempt 20 years ago involved 48 sleeping pills and beer. I was living in a seaside motel at the time. Had I been where I am now I would've surely died. Around here we have train tracks and high bridges. As a matter of fact, the third most popular bridge in the U.S. for committing suicide is about two miles from here. I remember every day of my two month stay in the psych hospital like it was yesterday. It was a locked unit and we all slept in one large room with people watching us 24 hours a day. In the day time we were all in a large room, again being observed. I stayed to myself. They eventually trusted me enough to give me a notebook and pen so I wrote a collection of fairy tales while I was there. I wrote 32 stories but only 28 were keepers. They thought I was autistic so they transferred me to a unit with other autistic people. Unfortunately, these other people had severe learning disabilities so it wasn't appropriate for me. I "hinted" that I was still feeling suicidal so they put me back into general population.
Kinda funny now. I still think about suicide every so often. I guess it's something that never leaves you. Those train tracks are near my house though, so if there was a next time it'd be permanent. Let's hope not.
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:58 am Post subject:
redrobin62 wrote:
Kinda funny now. I still think about suicide every so often. I guess it's something that never leaves you. Those train tracks are near my house though, so if there was a next time it'd be permanent. Let's hope not.
indulge me with a thought experiment, will you? what if you knew for a fact that if you did yourself in, that you'd find yourself first in a nasty place for a while, and then right back into a similiar [but even worse] lifetime as the one you prematurely left behind? would you still be willing to leave your present life travails behind or would you rather just slog through them and get them the hell well over and done with, never to return? i know which one i'd choose. even if one didn't know what lay beyond, would one prudently wish to chance it not knowing what one was in for, just beyond the bend? i mention taking chances because when i was young, i thought that homelessness and perpetual un/underemployment was hell on earth, so i did a stupid thing and signed on the dotted line [joined the mean green machine] and found out what real hell on earth was. i went in a matter of days, from a taste of hell to a heapin' helpin' of the stuff. i mention the army because IMHO committing hari kari is akin to going AWOL from the military, IOW one takes the chance that one will be caught and returned to worse circumstances than before one prematurely left. end of sermon.
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 2:13 pm Post subject:
I think, out of the Aspie population, that those who come from families where everyone is NT, are more likely to commit suicide, because seeing everyone else (all your siblings and cousins, especially if they are younger than you are) succeed in life makes you feel even more worthless and socially isolated. I'm not saying all my cousins are doing well and have better lives than me because they don't, but they're not highly anxious like I am, they're not angry with themselves, they're not depressed, they have more chance of finding a relationship than I have, and they all have more friends than I do and have more social confidence, even if they are shy. And there's me: a target for bullies, a mug, very obsessive, do weird things then regret it afterwards, and I alienate myself because of social fear.
Yes I know I've got to stop worrying about what my cousins are doing, but at the moment I am going through this phase, and I am trying to have nothing to do with them so that I don't think about them and dwell on anything, but their parents come round mine to see my mum and they talk about what they're doing with their social lives and so I still can never get away from hearing their pathetic little social lives being broadcasted.
If my fear of death didn't get in the way, I would commit suicide. But I believe in coming back as somebody else after you die, and I'm scared of who I'm going to come back as, so I won't do it, and anyway, I don't have the guts to kill myself.
It'd be nice to know who I will come back as. Hopefully I will be a really confident NT next time, but I bet I won't be. I'd probably come back as a starving child in Africa, or some rich child but born with Cerebral Palsy or something unlucky like that. _________________ Real gender: Female
From: East UK
Age: 23
I think I remember reading about her suicide, she used the bag method.
gosh where did you find that out?
I don't recall where I read it, some article saying something about her being asphyxiated w/ bag over her head. that's the "bag method". I can explain if curious.
if it came to be my time, i'd much prefer the hibachi method.
Oh I wasn't offering to explain it so you can use it on yourself, just to see how that lady died.
I could say something about the hibachi method, but I am not sure we can talk about these things here, is it? Can we openly discuss suicide methods in detail? Mine would be a heroin overdose btw
I certainly feel like giving up tonight. Too many misunderstandings for one evening. T-T
oh misunderstandings are an "occupational hazard"!! my whole life is a misundestanding... I try to see the funny side of it. I hope your anguish goes away, or has already gone away and you are feeling better.
I certainly feel like giving up tonight. Too many misunderstandings for one evening. T-T
oh misunderstandings are an "occupational hazard"!! my whole life is a misundestanding... I try to see the funny side of it. I hope your anguish goes away, or has already gone away and you are feeling better.
Thanks! Nothing funny this time. I hope I can get a bit of sleep soon. I'm terribly tired, mentally, and from lack of sleep.
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 3:06 am Post subject:
A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT-
for those thinking of a heroin overdose- if it fails, it can have long-term physical and mental effects, for the rest of one's life. chronic pulmonary or heart complications may develop. if the brain is deprived of oxygen for any length of time, brain damage can occur. liver disease and viruses or infection [from dirty "works"] can take up permanent residence in the blood or organs. other drugs in combination with heroin can also bring about long-term psychosis and create fundamental changes in brain function that are unalterable. so if you survive the heroin overdose, you likely will not be the person you were, in a very negative sense. the worst part would be to have just enough working brain cells left for one to know what one used to be. some food for thought...
A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT-
for those thinking of a heroin overdose- if it fails, it can have long-term physical and mental effects, for the rest of one's life. chronic pulmonary or heart complications may develop. if the brain is deprived of oxygen for any length of time, brain damage can occur. liver disease and viruses or infection [from dirty "works"] can take up permanent residence in the blood or organs. other drugs in combination with heroin can also bring about long-term psychosis and create fundamental changes in brain function that are unalterable. so if you survive the heroin overdose, you likely will not be the person you were, in a very negative sense. the worst part would be to have just enough working brain cells left for one to know what one used to be. some food for thought...
I see ur point, I once "died" from it already. Opened my eyes with the syringe needle right next to my eyeball. My bf was "dead", I knew to inject him with a mixture of salt and water in order to possibly bring him back to life, I did it and it worked. I used to inject H years ago. Havent touched it in about 20 years but as a suicide method it feels familiar and I know how to do it!
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I don't think aspergers alone will push a person to suicide, but I think a lot of the things that come with it can: isolation, feeling completely disconnected from everyone, being obsessed on obscure subjects or having odd fixations and eventually burning out and just feeling more alone when you have no one to share them with. I think its for this reason its very important to express yourself in some way, writing, art, music..even if you don't think you can do it, just try.
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:23 pm Post subject:
auntblabby wrote:
A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT-
for those thinking of a heroin overdose (.......) so if you survive the heroin overdose, you likely will not be the person you were, in a very negative sense. the worst part would be to have just enough working brain cells left for one to know what one used to be. some food for thought...
Having survived a stroke that damaged my left hemisphere visual cortex I can attest that waking up after brain damage and finding that you are not who you used to be is a very strange situation to find oneself in. One that I would recommend against. I'ts not necessarily all that bad though.
Sorry I couldn't find it in english but here is a translation:
Farnsworth: "But, what about your super-intelligence?"
Gunther: "When I had that there was too much pressure to use it. All I want out of life is to be a monkey of moderate intelligence who wears a suit. That's why I've decided to transfer to business school!"
Farnsworth: "Noooooooooo!"
(Gunther, the monkey, was wearing an "electronium hat" that boosted his intelligence which was damaged in a fall.)
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