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rabbittss
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| Dantac wrote: | | rabbittss wrote: |
Unfortunately you understand the problem exactly correctly. I'm following my only option, I'm dropping out of school. It's the only answer to this problem. Unfortunately I cannot take just the math each semester, I only have 1 'Attempt' left and if I fail the compass again I get kicked out of school for an entire year. it used to be 3 years! but if I'm out of school for a year I never intend to go back. I don't restart abandoned projects. |
There is another option...one that I see too many people use to get past this: Enroll in different colleges for the maths then transfer the passed credits to whatever institution you intend to graduate from.
You may have 1 attempt left in your current college...but other colleges in the area don't know that nor is it their business to know. Register for their remedial courses there, one class per semester, pass it and move on. Be sure to find out if your current college accepts those remedial transfer credits before taking them though.. some colleges just love to be jackasses. |
I wanted to do that, but, I cannot. the "Chances" are universal in the Entire Georgia university program. All I can do is transfer to a tech school, retake the remedial class and then take the college level class, since if I can't pass the exit exam I can't pass the placement exam either. It's very frustrating because after two semesters of working on this sh** I should be better at it than I am. Where as I effectively only increased my grade by 6pts. While others were making 50's and 60's on it. I was just above failing even at my best score.
This stuff just makes no sense to me. I can't see how people make anything of it. And whats worse, a lot of schools don't let you use calculators on exams. without that, I'm completely hopeless.
It's still unfortunately looking to be my only option. Transfer to a tech school for fall, take the remedial math class again until i can pass it. Thankfully they have enough other classes that I can take to hopefully get up to my 30 hours in order to transfer to a 4 year.. provided I can get past the math.. which I doubt.
I keep being told I have no confidence in my ability to do math, of course always being told to me by people who do get it, and I reply, well, duh, of course I have no confidence in it, I fail at it constantly. There reply is always 'Study more'. As if I just sit and stare at it long enough, magic sky pixies will come and magically alter my brain to make it understandable to me. |
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Dantac
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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ouch 
Seems it would be better for you to try to do the SAT all over again to get a higher math score and bypass all that crap. You'd still have to deal with 2 college level math classes. |
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rabbittss
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Dantac wrote: | ouch
Seems it would be better for you to try to do the SAT all over again to get a higher math score and bypass all that crap. You'd still have to deal with 2 college level math classes. |
I thought about that, but I have no way to gaurentee I'd get a high enough sat score. I need a 440 and I understand they have made it more difficult. |
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MeshugenahMama
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| This is left field, but I am going to put it out there anyway. This is a major reason for a person to get a diagnosis. If you have a diagnosed learning disability, schools-including colleges-are required to make modifications including possibly extending time allowances and allowing the use of a calculator. I know this is not what you want to hear right now, but if math is THAT hard for you...... |
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rabbittss
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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| MeshugenahMama wrote: | | This is left field, but I am going to put it out there anyway. This is a major reason for a person to get a diagnosis. If you have a diagnosed learning disability, schools-including colleges-are required to make modifications including possibly extending time allowances and allowing the use of a calculator. I know this is not what you want to hear right now, but if math is THAT hard for you...... |
There is no way for me to get a diagnosis. I don't have insurance and everyone wants you to go see them for 6-12 months before they will do the testing. |
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Dantac
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| rabbittss wrote: | | Dantac wrote: | ouch
Seems it would be better for you to try to do the SAT all over again to get a higher math score and bypass all that crap. You'd still have to deal with 2 college level math classes. |
I thought about that, but I have no way to gaurentee I'd get a high enough sat score. I need a 440 and I understand they have made it more difficult. |
Perhaps but the SAT you can take I think as many times as you want and its much cheaper than repeating college semesters to pass the same class.
Also, many colleges have their own tests for admission and those are split into math and english sections. you can just take the math one. |
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rabbittss
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Dantac wrote: | | rabbittss wrote: | | Dantac wrote: | ouch
Seems it would be better for you to try to do the SAT all over again to get a higher math score and bypass all that crap. You'd still have to deal with 2 college level math classes. |
I thought about that, but I have no way to gaurentee I'd get a high enough sat score. I need a 440 and I understand they have made it more difficult. |
Perhaps but the SAT you can take I think as many times as you want and its much cheaper than repeating college semesters to pass the same class.
Also, many colleges have their own tests for admission and those are split into math and english sections. you can just take the math one. |
Yeah, thats the thing though, most colleges use the ACTLITE aka the COMPASS which is a computer based test and is what is causing all the problems.
the SAT is not cheap for adult learners either its about 65$ when I looked into taking it. |
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swilltastic
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God, you really are in a bind. I wish I could try to tutor you. I had this math teacher when I was in school in Ohio that explained things perfectly clear, with no bullcrap. And that was how I turned from a bad math student to a good one...
I can't help you man... if I knew where you were at perhaps I could, but good luck |
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rabbittss
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 10:15 am Post subject: |
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| swilltastic wrote: | God, you really are in a bind. I wish I could try to tutor you. I had this math teacher when I was in school in Ohio that explained things perfectly clear, with no bullcrap. And that was how I turned from a bad math student to a good one...
I can't help you man... if I knew where you were at perhaps I could, but good luck |
It's been taken care of thanks to the disability services department and a very strongly worded letter to the dean. But I appreciate the thought. |
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rabbittss
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Dantac
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I just saw that before seeing your post.. I immediately thought of you man!
He's also in Georgia... how about you contact the news crew and see if they add your story to it? Maybe more like you and him will come forth and make it an issue the politicians and school boards get fire on their butts to address. |
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rabbittss
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Dantac wrote: | I just saw that before seeing your post.. I immediately thought of you man!
He's also in Georgia... how about you contact the news crew and see if they add your story to it? Maybe more like you and him will come forth and make it an issue the politicians and school boards get fire on their butts to address. |
Way ahead of you! |
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MeshugenahMama
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Things like this are sooo agravating. My oldest son was diagnosed with autism when he was 3. I have spent the last 10 years battling school districts to give him what he needs and has the right to. I hope that this boys parents are fighting it. I tend to get so battle weary, but I find if I push them hard enough they eventually give me my way. If my son got a letter like that after struggling through 13 years of school, all that I can say is that it would not be pretty. |
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MeshugenahMama
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| rabbittss wrote: | | MeshugenahMama wrote: | | This is left field, but I am going to put it out there anyway. This is a major reason for a person to get a diagnosis. If you have a diagnosed learning disability, schools-including colleges-are required to make modifications including possibly extending time allowances and allowing the use of a calculator. I know this is not what you want to hear right now, but if math is THAT hard for you...... |
There is no way for me to get a diagnosis. I don't have insurance and everyone wants you to go see them for 6-12 months before they will do the testing. |
I can relate to you on not having insurance, becuase in the 20 years of my adult life, I have never been able to afford insurance. I did want to touch on the diagnosis thing. Whether or not you get diagnosed can be a big decision that everybody has to decide for themselves, but you should know the facts. Anybody that tells you that they have to see you for 6-12 months before they can make a diagnosis, I would say they don't know what they are talking about and are only after your money. It is important to go to an autism specialist for this. Lately I have been a little intrigued with the idea of getting a diagnosis. In part, because as I read posts on WP, I think that my autism is much more severe than I thought before joining WP. So last week I searched for psychologists that not only specializes in autism, but adult diagnosis. I am going to paste the response that I got to my email, because it is exactly what it should have been:
Thanks for your note and interest in pursuing an assessment through my office. An evaluation typically takes 3 sessions and involves taking a history, review of your current symptoms, administration of a few assessment tools, and sharing of results, followed by my writing up a detailed report that you can use to pursue treatments specific to your particular needs.
The cost varies, depending on a number of variables, but is usually somewhere between $750 and $1200.
Call me if you'd like additional information or to schedule an appointment. Again, thanks for your interest!
Again, to diagnose or not is a very personal decision, but this is what it should look like if the person knows what they are doing. If you need modifications to make it through school, you generally cannot get those without a diagnosis. I am glad to hear that things in your current situation worked out anyway. |
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rabbittss
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Yeah, It's something I want to do, I'm hoping to get it done through my 4 year universities testing center once I transfer next year.
I just got done reading something interesting. I went and had a conversation with my mom, and she mentioned something I had never heard of before. Apparently when she was in school, in the 60's, they taught something called "new Math". Apparently it was designed to introduce higher math concepts to younger and younger kids in the hopes they could catch up with the soviets in terms of education attainment.
However, the program was basically a colossal failure, and lead to books such as "Why Johnny Can't Add: the Failure of the New Math.". Even Richard Feynemen spoke out against this bizarre new math which used Base 8 instead of Base 10.
Needless to say, my mom, dad, and uncle and aunt are all not exactly proficient at mathematics. What they do know how to do, they learned by getting really good teachers who took the time to teach them.
My two cousins, My sister and I also do not have a firm understanding of math, and I'm wondering now if what we are dealing with is some sort of trickle down effect. Since so much school work is now done at home, if you don't have some one who understands it and can help you with your homework.. you don't excel at the homework.. barring being exceptionally bright or inclined to do it on your own. No Help, you begin to fall behind, the further behind you fall, the less able you are to do the newer material due to having shakier and shakier foundations.
It would explain why my friends, who are the same age as me, but who have younger parents seem to have a slightly easier time at this than I do..
But of course.. causation and correlation and all that.. I'm not saying it's probable.. only possible. |
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