Kraichgauer
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| HisDivineMajesty wrote: | | Did you accept all immigrants, even those with no perspective for work, offer them funding for religious schools and mosques, offer them funding to preserve their culture and place a taboo on discussing their extreme over-representation in crime and unemployment? That seems to be where we went wrong. |
You have a point.
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HisDivineMajesty
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| What I observed recently wasn't nice. Eight-year-old kids on small bicycles speeding through a city yelling "Allahu Akbar". |
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Kraichgauer
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| HisDivineMajesty wrote: | | What I observed recently wasn't nice. Eight-year-old kids on small bicycles speeding through a city yelling "Allahu Akbar". |
Does this necessarily have to have a sinister connotation, other than just little kids having fun while screaming a popular slogan they had been raised with?
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ruveyn
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| Kraichgauer wrote: | | HisDivineMajesty wrote: | | What I observed recently wasn't nice. Eight-year-old kids on small bicycles speeding through a city yelling "Allahu Akbar". |
Does this necessarily have to have a sinister connotation, other than just little kids having fun while screaming a popular slogan they had been raised with?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
Alla'hu Akbar is what every suicide bomber yells when they pull the pin. The little kids are being well trained for their future careers and terrorists and slayers of the innocent.
Question does the phrase "Muslim Terrorist" contain one word or two words? The fact that there is a question about it is significant.
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Kraichgauer
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| ruveyn wrote: | | Kraichgauer wrote: |
I can't speak for Europe, but integration of immigrants has apparently been more successful in America.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
There are still Jihadi sleeper cells in the U.S.
The problem is that the well assimilated Muslim-Americans won't speak out against the Jihadis loud and clear. Where was the Million Muslim March after 9/11? Nowhere to be seen.
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I think the number of sleeper terror cells are few and far between. And I'm not about to condemn a whole segment of the population because some of their political and religious leadership may have chosen to stick their heads in the sand when it may have been more appropriate for them to have spoken out. And as I recall, there were those Muslim American leaders who did in fact speak out after 9/11, and since.
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Kraichgauer
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| ruveyn wrote: | | Kraichgauer wrote: | | HisDivineMajesty wrote: | | What I observed recently wasn't nice. Eight-year-old kids on small bicycles speeding through a city yelling "Allahu Akbar". |
Does this necessarily have to have a sinister connotation, other than just little kids having fun while screaming a popular slogan they had been raised with?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
Alla'hu Akbar is what every suicide bomber yells when they pull the pin. The little kids are being well trained for their future careers and terrorists and slayers of the innocent.
Question does the phrase "Muslim Terrorist" contain one word or two words? The fact that there is a question about it is significant.
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I believe the phrase in fact had predated the phenomenon of suicide bombers.
Though I can see how this could be seen as unsettling.
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HisDivineMajesty
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Fists in the air. Not a nice sight.  |
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I'm an advocate of the Teletubby School of Totalitarian Thought and a Catholic Monarchist.
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auntblabby
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^^^
"teletubies"? that rings a bell... i remember when our american cuckoocliastical cleric jerry falwell made a big stink about how tinky winky was corrupting our youth, and on that crazy subject he found lots of agreement with the ride side of the aisle. |
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Kraichgauer
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| auntblabby wrote: | ^^^
"teletubies"? that rings a bell... i remember when our american cuckoocliastical cleric jerry falwell made a big stink about how tinky winky was corrupting our youth, and on that crazy subject he found lots of agreement with the ride side of the aisle. |
Larry Flynt, who had come to form a strange kind of friendship with Falwell in later years, told how he had called the good reverend concerning the Teletubby flap, and asked, "What are you doing Jerry?" To which Falwell answered, "Sometimes I say things without thinking."
Yeah, and then some. 
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auntblabby
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| Kraichgauer wrote: | | Larry Flynt, who had come to form a strange kind of friendship with Falwell in later years, told how he had called the good reverend concerning the Teletubby flap, and asked, "What are you doing Jerry?" To which Falwell answered, "Sometimes I say things without thinking."Yeah, and then some. |
man, that is truly weird, that those two would be on civil/semi-friendly speaking terms, at least after that whole thing about flynt and his cartoon featuring falwell and his mother in an outhouse.  to admit a weakness to another cannot be the mark of true enmity. strange.  i just don't get it.  |
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Kraichgauer
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| auntblabby wrote: | | Kraichgauer wrote: | | Larry Flynt, who had come to form a strange kind of friendship with Falwell in later years, told how he had called the good reverend concerning the Teletubby flap, and asked, "What are you doing Jerry?" To which Falwell answered, "Sometimes I say things without thinking."Yeah, and then some. |
man, that is truly weird, that those two would be on civil/semi-friendly speaking terms, at least after that whole thing about flynt and his cartoon featuring falwell and his mother in an outhouse. to admit a weakness to another cannot be the mark of true enmity. strange. i just don't get it. |
Strange but true.
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My own persuasion, no predefined ideology describes my leanings.
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spacebrain
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| I'm a... Moratary Extinctionist with leanings toward evolutionism. Whatever it takes to make our species prolong or eventually evolve must be our unified goal. Our best bet would be a technocracy with the goal of space settlement and deep exploration. Obvious problems with this idea. The stand out being; Do we even have the resources to do this effectively? We may very well have marooned ourselves on this planet... Or maybe we never even had the resources to achieve such a feat to begin with. It's not written in the stars that we're meant to live our days like we're on the Enterprise. So if space exploration is impossible, the next best option for species cunctation is to destroy all society and return to a nomadic existence. Really this is where we're headed anyways... If we don't find a solution to our energy woes, I'd estimate 6 out of 7 human beings will die. The grand tragedy, hell it could happen in my lifetime. Ghandi said "poverty is the worst form of violence". We've built the world economy up like the Tower of Babel, when it crumbles down we will witness the most violent and impoverished time in human history. The greatest singular event of human suffering. So... Back to space exploration! It's our best bet, the most inspired and most god-like. |
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ChangelingGirl
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| Back to the original topic, I'm left-wing liberal. Eceonomically speaking, I'm a leftist, while on morals and social issues, I'm a liberal. |
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