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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:32 pm    Post subject: Western countries to avoid as an aspie/autistic Reply with quote

If you want to lead a happy stress-free life and choose where you would move to if you could, what western country wouldn't you pick?
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Romania. It looks like a beautiful country and I am sure the majority of the people are very nice, but I have a friend from there and she said the situation for people with disabilities of any kind is very bad. Many children are institutionalised and very badly neglected, some even tied to their beds. The situation is improving, but I think it is still a long way behind other European countries.

If I had to move to another country (I would find that very difficult, moving from Scotland to England was traumatic enough) then I would move to the Netherlands. I've never actually been there and I don't know what the Netherlands are like from an Aspie perspective, but it's the country I have always wanted to visit.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd avoid Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine and possibly Russia.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lostgirl1986 wrote:
I'd avoid Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine and possibly Russia.

Thanks for leaving out Hungary, but really, things are not so much better here. There's too much prejudice. I guess it is true for Eastern-Europe in general, though I also see many good-hearted people working with autistics / MR people.

I guess I'd avoid the southern part of Europe, because people there tend to socialize a lot more than I'd want to...
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on the severity of your Autism, I'd just avoid anything east of Germany. Also maybe France and Spain.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OJani wrote:
Thanks for leaving out Hungary, but really, things are not so much better here.


Are things still bad with the Fidesz mob?
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SilkySifaka wrote:
Romania. It looks like a beautiful country and I am sure the majority of the people are very nice, but I have a friend from there and she said the situation for people with disabilities of any kind is very bad. Many children are institutionalised and very badly neglected, some even tied to their beds. The situation is improving, but I think it is still a long way behind other European countries.


At a church I used to attend several of the Fresh Out of High School people did a mission trip and visited the orphanages in Bucharest, many of the NT children deteriorated just as easily, as is the case here nobody wants to adopt older kids - the government at the time was trying to get into the EU and wanted to sweep the ugliness under the rug. Hopefully it is getting better
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kind of think that you'd want to avoid all of them. Too bad that isn't practical.
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tequila wrote:
OJani wrote:
Thanks for leaving out Hungary, but really, things are not so much better here.


Are things still bad with the Fidesz mob?

Yes, they are. Recently they are doing the bad practice of nullifying previous court adjudication under the disguise of the special amendment to their bad media law urged by the EU just to make the symbolic one and only oppositional radio station to halt (again). This amendment is nicknamed "Lex Club Radio".
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too bad to see Russia mentioned, I always wanted to go visit that country more than any other but I guess it makes sense. Probably not a friendly country at all to anyone who can't fend for themselves and aren't good at social interaction.
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeueZiel wrote:
Too bad to see Russia mentioned, I always wanted to go visit that country more than any other but I guess it makes sense. Probably not a friendly country at all to anyone who can't fend for themselves and aren't good at social interaction.

In Soviet Russia, autism diagnoses you.
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, i live in Romania and here people are not good to each other. They are hypocrite - behave nice only with strangers but to any occasions they behave like savages. It is an nightmare what's happening here. And i'm not exaggerating :/
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry since when is "Eastern" Europe part of the "west"?
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canada, Germany, Netherlands, Sweden.
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

France. How has nobody mentioned France yet? Seems pretty obvious.
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