AstroGeek
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| ruveyn wrote: | | auntblabby wrote: | | AstroGeek wrote: | | Last time I checked people in America have free speech and freedom of religion. You certainly don't have to like what they do or say but you can't propose to systematically get rid of it. The best you can do is reach out between groups to try to promote understanding. That's not to say that it will be easy, but it is necessary. The toxic attitudes that I see here will only make things worse. |
it's hard to avoid the venom when one is in a bottle teeming with scorpions who love to sting people. america is that bottle where the scorpions have usurped all the air of goodwill in the place.  |
Time for the good guys to get off their arses and take it back.
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Wouldn't the constitution pose some problems for you then? It also seems rather bizarre that Libertarians hold these opinions. You'd be taking away freedom of religion. And "for the greater good" is not normally an argument which a libertarian would deem acceptable. |
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ruveyn
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| AstroGeek wrote: |
Wouldn't the constitution pose some problems for you then? It also seems rather bizarre that Libertarians hold these opinions. You'd be taking away freedom of religion. And "for the greater good" is not normally an argument which a libertarian would deem acceptable. |
Who is threatening First Amendment restrictions and how?
The government is not allowed to establish and religion or prohibit the free exercise thereof.
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Joker
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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1. Strong political independent.
2. Irish republicanism.
3. National Democratic Party of Germany.
4. Right wing on law and authority
5. Left wing on social issues. |
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Tequila
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| An Irish republican neo-Nazi - you're a walking stereotype of the most backward, fascistic type of Irish republican to many unionists. Excellent stuff. |
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Joker
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| Tequila wrote: | | An Irish republican neo-Nazi - you're a walking stereotype of the most backward, fascistic type of Irish republican to many unionists. Excellent stuff. |
I'm German Irish  800 years of irish oppression under English rule and two hundred years of Irish oppression in America can make you bitter.
As for the neo-Nazi statement think what you like sweet heart I bloody don't give a horses arse. |
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Tequila
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| Joker wrote: | | 800 years of irish oppression under English rule |
Does that kind of nonsense help the Irish people - those who class themselves as British and those who don't - in any way?
Should I be bitter about Irish people blowing up English shopping centres?
The history of Ireland is complex, often involving atrocity and counter-atrocity and much pain on all sides.
| Quote: | | As for the neo-Nazi statement think what you like sweet heart I bloody don't give a horses arse. |
The NPD are often linked with neo-Nazis - they're in the European National Front europarty, which contains other neo-fascist and racist parties. Hell, they even support pan-Germanism for feck's sake. |
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Joker
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[quote="Tequila"] | Joker wrote: | | 800 years of irish oppression under English rule |
Does that kind of nonsense help the Irish people - those who class themselves as British and those who don't - in any way?
Should I be bitter about Irish people blowing up English shopping centres?
The history of Ireland is complex, often involving atrocity and counter-atrocity and much pain on all sides.
It was the brits who viewed us as pesants and subhuman they are to blame for the IRA bombing them.
And the Irish blowing up english shopping center is sad but what the english have done is to the Irish is much worse then that.
The Irish had to deal with english Imperialism for 800 bloody years if they would have let the Irish live in peace then their would not have been a IRA and I have IRA family members.
I know my family history I know Irish history what gave the British a right to spread their bloody british Imperialism on us? |
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AstroGeek
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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| ruveyn wrote: | | AstroGeek wrote: |
Wouldn't the constitution pose some problems for you then? It also seems rather bizarre that Libertarians hold these opinions. You'd be taking away freedom of religion. And "for the greater good" is not normally an argument which a libertarian would deem acceptable. |
Who is threatening First Amendment restrictions and how?
The government is not allowed to establish and religion or prohibit the free exercise thereof.
ruveyn |
Then how would you go about eliminating the perceived threat posed by American Muslims without prohibiting the exercise of their religion |
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ruveyn
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Then how would you go about eliminating the perceived threat posed by American Muslims without prohibiting the exercise of their religion |
Deportation.
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Dox47
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Joker wrote: | | It was the brits who viewed us as pesants and subhuman they are to blame for the IRA bombing them. |
"Us"? Your age and location make that seem highly unlikely.
Also, "they made us blow them up" isn't a terribly convincing rationale for murder.
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