Dp0p
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Diamorphine
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| If they do invent a cure for AS, no one says you HAVE to get cured, similar to how a cancer patient could elect to not recieve chemo. I still support a cure being found for those who want to be cured. |
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Nim
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| The word is reverted, not cured. |
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RobotGreenAlien2
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| Did you make 5 identical posts on purpose, that's not cool. |
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Delphiki
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| RobotGreenAlien2 wrote: | | Did you make 5 identical posts on purpose, that's not cool. |
Probably an accident, wrongplanet collasped on me, and when it finally opened up again he had 5 threads
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Diamorphine
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Nim wrote: | | The word is reverted, not cured. |
Semantics are unimportant. If a man gets chemo and the cancer goes away for good, would you say his cancer was "reverted"? While technically it's correct, no one ever says it. Unless you're saying the number of cells in his body reverted back to normal.
EDIT: Sorry about the post essentially saying nothing, I'm high as a damn kite right now. |
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Ellingtonia
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Diamorphine wrote: | | If they do invent a cure for AS, no one says you HAVE to get cured, similar to how a cancer patient could elect to not recieve chemo. I still support a cure being found for those who want to be cured. |
An important difference between AS and cancer is that AS is usually diagnosed in childhood. Hypothetically, should parents be able to force a permanent cure on their children? |
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Diamorphine
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Ellingtonia wrote: | | Diamorphine wrote: | | If they do invent a cure for AS, no one says you HAVE to get cured, similar to how a cancer patient could elect to not recieve chemo. I still support a cure being found for those who want to be cured. |
An important difference between AS and cancer is that AS is usually diagnosed in childhood. Hypothetically, should parents be able to force a permanent cure on their children? |
Depends how old the children are. 13+ definetly not. I do think, if all AS people were cured as babies, the vast majority of them would have had better qualities of life. Look at it like this, AS does a LOT more harm than good, and in my case of ADHD, a lot of harm and no good. Untreated, I was a D student in school and I only did the bare minimum to get by in life. If my parents gave me adderall/ritalin/similar as a child I could have gotten better grades, leading to going to a good college, to making a lot more money than I ever could untreated.
Whether or not you like having AS, you need to understand that most people don't and for 99% of people who get it, it significantly diminishes quality of life.
Sorry if I sounded hostile, but there was a little need to be when you're referring to scientists trying to improve the quality of life of millions as "they" like there's an organization out to defeat the great legion of people with autism. |
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Teredia
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 12:47 am Post subject: Re: how i feel whenever i hear that 'they' are working on a |
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I disagree in some cases of Autism, for the ones who are muted or have other problems like the cognitive abilities of a 2 year old etc they do need a cure so they can live a relatively normal life where they do not need a carer...
Im only saying this cause i have a friend whose sister is low functioning n it break our heart to see her the way she is. |
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Dp0p
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my wrong planet crashed too and yes accident sorry, i couldn't come beck to check on it because the i had wood tech for the rest of the day.
some things i will say, low functioning autistics should definatly get medication im all for it i obviously wasnt speaking about them.
the difference between ritalin and a cure for autism is that ritalin can be stopped or changed for a more suitable solution, ni know from experience as i myself have asthma ADD and ASD but that is beside the point. im not talking about medication im talking about a cure. my life goal is to invent a medication/substitute to effectively eliminate our social handicap. pretty much all the bad parts are what i hope to 'fix'. but a cure that will be forced upon Autistic children is my nightmare. imagine Autism vaccinations.
let me enphisise the WE in WE dont need a cure. anyone who was able to read and understand that statement can obviously function thus they dont neec a cure so my statement "we dont need a cure" remains true.
im kinda past this whole post and im just tired now so yeh.......
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Silvervarg
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:16 am Post subject: |
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| Dp0p wrote: | my wrong planet crashed too and yes accident sorry, i couldn't come beck to check on it because the i had wood tech for the rest of the day.
some things i will say, low functioning autistics should definatly get medication im all for it i obviously wasnt speaking about them.
the difference between ritalin and a cure for autism is that ritalin can be stopped or changed for a more suitable solution, ni know from experience as i myself have asthma ADD and ASD but that is beside the point. im not talking about medication im talking about a cure. my life goal is to invent a medication/substitute to effectively eliminate our social handicap. pretty much all the bad parts are what i hope to 'fix'. but a cure that will be forced upon Autistic children is my nightmare. imagine Autism vaccinations.
let me enphisise the WE in WE dont need a cure. anyone who was able to read and understand that statement can obviously function thus they dont neec a cure so my statement "we dont need a cure" remains true.
im kinda past this whole post and im just tired now so yeh....... |
I agree, a social aid should be found asap, and hastly distributed to all NTs so that the'll stop being so freaking bias. 
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Diamorphine
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| Dp0p wrote: | my wrong planet crashed too and yes accident sorry, i couldn't come beck to check on it because the i had wood tech for the rest of the day.
some things i will say, low functioning autistics should definatly get medication im all for it i obviously wasnt speaking about them.
the difference between ritalin and a cure for autism is that ritalin can be stopped or changed for a more suitable solution, ni know from experience as i myself have asthma ADD and ASD but that is beside the point. im not talking about medication im talking about a cure. my life goal is to invent a medication/substitute to effectively eliminate our social handicap. pretty much all the bad parts are what i hope to 'fix'. but a cure that will be forced upon Autistic children is my nightmare. imagine Autism vaccinations.
let me enphisise the WE in WE dont need a cure. anyone who was able to read and understand that statement can obviously function thus they dont neec a cure so my statement "we dont need a cure" remains true.
im kinda past this whole post and im just tired now so yeh....... |
There are millions of AS people out there who disagree. Most people i've met with as would give ANYTHING to be cured of it. You people need to remember that asperger's syndrome isn't a club, it's a brain defect that, in 99.9% of cases, decrease a person's quality of life. That is the very definition of disease, something in your body f***ing up that decreases your quality of life. It's not a joke. It can make it a lot harder to find a job, make friends and have a social life, get married, have kids, (even if you don't want a wife and kids, there's people who do who can't have it because there's no cure) along with the myraid of other problems it can cause. If a cure were found tomorrow, all adults with AS could choose to use it or not, and parents can choose whether or not to give it to their children. For every one person it hurts it can improve the lives of thousands. |
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CaptainTrips222
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| So how would a cure work? Rewire the neurology with a pill? We don't even know what causes autism. Don't worry so much- for better or for worse, they ain't gonna come up with a cure no time soon. |
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Diamorphine
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| CaptainTrips222 wrote: | | So how would a cure work? Rewire the neurology with a pill? We don't even know what causes autism. Don't worry so much- for better or for worse, they ain't gonna come up with a cure no time soon. |
I don't there there will ever be a total, one time permanant cure like a vaccine. I'm talking about a drug that fixes most/all of the problems AS causes, similar to adderall fixes every last one of my ADHD symptoms. |
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CaptainTrips222
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| Diamorphine wrote: | | CaptainTrips222 wrote: | | So how would a cure work? Rewire the neurology with a pill? We don't even know what causes autism. Don't worry so much- for better or for worse, they ain't gonna come up with a cure no time soon. |
I don't there there will ever be a total, one time permanant cure like a vaccine. I'm talking about a drug that fixes most/all of the problems AS causes, similar to adderall fixes every last one of my ADHD symptoms. |
But I don't think we can even treat it. It's pervasive, and has many symptoms. What aspect would get treated? |
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