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Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 7:33 pm Post subject:
Here's another speech. Slightly cut because half of it is in Arabic, and subtitled by someone.
The subtitles are mostly accurate, except for some poor choices of words (kafir, meaning infidel, is translated to as*hole).
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 7:58 pm Post subject:
DC wrote:
Oh look, here comes Hyperlexian to lock the thread and spank you for daring to be a European saying that an experiment with unlimited immigration has failed disastrously in your own country.
Isn't it great being lectured to by a holier than thou Canadian that has never even visited your country?
Isn't it great being bullied by someone whose country has a positively xenophobic immigration policy by comparison?
Better just shut up and watch your country and culture be destroyed, after all, if you don't you might upset a Canadian.
Hear, hear.
Its very choice that she can make a thread on St. David's day, implying that the Welsh have no morals and culture. Did she lock that, NO! Am half Welsh and was insulted by that!
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But it is my happiness to be half Welsh, and that the better half.
Now how long is it to Canada Day? I know when it is, for the uncultured and xenophobic Canadians out there, Canada Day is four months after St. David's day, to the very same day!
Here's a brilliant idea, lets have an Eisteddfod in PPR on the 1st July. _________________ Censorship reflects a society's lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime. --Potter Stewart
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:11 pm Post subject:
Chipshorter wrote:
Now how long is it to Canada Day?
What actually happens on Canada Day? Do they all sit on big tables, eating poutine (and they call this a national dish?! Shame on them) and drinking Labatt until they vomit over each other? No, seriously. I know they wave their flag and stuff but apart from that, I'm not sure.
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:22 pm Post subject:
Chipshorter wrote:
Now how long is it to Canada Day? I know when it is, for the uncultured and xenophobic Canadians out there, Canada Day is four months after St. David's day, to the very same day!
Here's a brilliant idea, lets have an Eisteddfod in PPR on the 1st July.
Uncultured and xenophobic, coming from the likes of you, is extremely humorous
Tequila wrote:
What actually happens on Canada Day? Do they all sit on big tables, eating poutine (and they call this a national dish?! Shame on them) and drinking Labatt until they vomit over each other? No, seriously. I know they wave their flag and stuff but apart from that, I'm not sure.
Poutine is a Quebec dish, and Labatt is a Quebec beer. There is little Canada Day celebrating in Quebec outside the West Island of Montreal, where there are plenty of large festivals with live music, fireworks, lots of alcohol, etc. We party harder here on St Jean le Baptiste (La Fete Nationale)
It is basically like any other national celebratory holiday. _________________ Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:24 pm Post subject:
Tequila wrote:
Chipshorter wrote:
Now how long is it to Canada Day?
What actually happens on Canada Day? Do they all sit on big tables, eating poutine (and they call this a national dish?! Shame on them) and drinking Labatt until they vomit over each other? No, seriously. I know they wave their flag and stuff but apart from that, I'm not sure.
Well, it used to be that about 50 thousand or so people would converge on Parliament Hill, and everyone would get really drunk, and there would be people climbing streetlamps and women riding about shirtless on people's shoulders and other stuff such as that. It was so packed and there were so many people, the police couldn't get in to do anything about all but the most serious situations. People used to make a lot of money by selling beer out of coolers at an exorbitant price.
Then they came up with this idea they called Family First Night (not the name of the holiday, but of the celebration in Ottawa) around the mid-90s if I recall correctly. Inspired by right wing "family values" nonsense that was all the rage at the time. They set up stuff well ahead of dark and got the place filled with families and other easy-to-manage celebrators so that when night came, the revellers found their space already occupied, and surrounded by cops who turned them away. So now I think there is some laser show on Parliament Hill that nobody watches, and people generally stay home or go to bars and get drunk (except recluses like me who pay no attention at all to the whole affair).
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:25 pm Post subject:
Tequila wrote:
It would be interested to see what the Arabic passages were. Probably advocating peace and love and free chocolate cake for all, no doubt.
Mostly prayers or general socially-pressured remarks. After they use a prophet's name, they sometimes feel obliged to use the words 'peace be upon him' in Arabic afterwards. Adds a good couple of words every time they issue the name of their religion's central figure, which I think happens several times in both videos. They also have an expanded version of the word Allah, and they seem to have started the second one with a prayer.
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:26 pm Post subject:
edgewaters wrote:
Tequila wrote:
Chipshorter wrote:
Now how long is it to Canada Day?
What actually happens on Canada Day? Do they all sit on big tables, eating poutine (and they call this a national dish?! Shame on them) and drinking Labatt until they vomit over each other? No, seriously. I know they wave their flag and stuff but apart from that, I'm not sure.
Well, it used to be that about 50 thousand or so people would converge on Parliament Hill, and everyone would get really drunk, and there would be people climbing streetlamps and women riding about shirtless on people's shoulders and other stuff such as that. It was so packed and there were so many people, the police couldn't get in to do anything about all but the most serious situations. People used to make a lot of money by selling beer out of coolers at an exorbitant price.
Then they came up with this idea they called Family First Night (not the name of the holiday, but of the celebration in Ottawa) around the mid-90s if I recall correctly. Inspired by right wing "family values" nonsense that was all the rage at the time. They set up stuff well ahead of dark and got the place filled with families and other easy-to-manage celebrators so that when night came, the revellers found their space already occupied, and surrounded by cops who turned them away. So now I think there is some laser show on Parliament Hill, and people generally stay home or go to bars and get drunk (except recluses like me who pay no attention at all to the whole affair).
A proper Canada day needs good beer, barbecue, bonfires, beautiful July weather, and a beach on a pleasant lake in the wilderness, for me at least. Fireworks too _________________ Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:32 pm Post subject:
Vigilans wrote:
A proper Canada day needs good beer, barbecue, bonfires, beautiful July weather, and a beach on a pleasant lake in the wilderness, for me at least. Fireworks too
Yeah that sounds pretty traditional, if you've got access to a cottage. We've got a cottage but I just never happen to be up there on Canada Day ... I think they do fireworks from an island though, or at least they did when I was a kid.
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:36 pm Post subject:
edgewaters wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
A proper Canada day needs good beer, barbecue, bonfires, beautiful July weather, and a beach on a pleasant lake in the wilderness, for me at least. Fireworks too
Yeah that sounds pretty traditional, if you've got access to a cottage. We've got a cottage but I just never happen to be up there on Canada Day ... I think they do fireworks from an island though, or at least they did when I was a kid.
No cottage for me unfortunately, but there are a few camping-permitted provincial parks just over the border in Ontario that I try and be at for the occasion. _________________ Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do
Oh look, here comes Hyperlexian to lock the thread and spank you for daring to be a European saying that an experiment with unlimited immigration has failed disastrously in your own country.
Isn't it great being lectured to by a holier than thou Canadian that has never even visited your country?
Isn't it great being bullied by someone whose country has a positively xenophobic immigration policy by comparison?
Better just shut up and watch your country and culture be destroyed, after all, if you don't you might upset a Canadian.
Actually, Cornflake will most likely lock the thread. He locked mine for no reason. It is not like I was spouting supremicist ideology
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:51 pm Post subject:
I can tell you why this thread is going to be locked, and it has nothing to do with the content of the OP _________________ Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:54 pm Post subject:
I think - if warnings are counted towards the total score - the score in my case is hyperlexian 2-3, Cornflake 2. And my threads weren't even that absurd, generally. They were just interpreted as racism, even though I offered sound theories of demographics and backed it them with academic research. I mean, the Scientology vs. Christianity thread is still going on, but a thread in which I explained how emergency food aid could be disastrous in the long term by basing rapid population growth on uncertain foreign food aid during the process of desertification was explained as racism, locked, and upon some questioning responded to by 'not going to argue about it'.
Regardless, this thread probably can't be viewed as racist, so I might have dodged one bullet there. We're dealing with Salafism and antidemocratic islamist supremacism here, not a group of people who happen not to share the colour of my skin (which makes me wonder - who's the racist?) leading themselves to disaster under the influence of foreign symptom-solving.
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 9:11 pm Post subject:
I have probably had 4 or 5 locked threads, I have never bitched about it, people need to harden up _________________ Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 9:12 pm Post subject:
HisDivineMajesty wrote:
I think - if warnings are counted towards the total score - the score in my case is hyperlexian 2-3, Cornflake 2. And my threads weren't even that absurd, generally. They were just interpreted as racism, even though I offered sound theories of demographics and backed it them with academic research. I mean, the Scientology vs. Christianity thread is still going on, but a thread in which I explained how emergency food aid could be disastrous in the long term by basing rapid population growth on uncertain foreign food aid during the process of desertification was explained as racism, locked, and upon some questioning responded to by 'not going to argue about it'.
Regardless, this thread probably can't be viewed as racist, so I might have dodged one bullet there. We're dealing with Salafism and antidemocratic islamist supremacism here, not a group of people who happen not to share the colour of my skin (which makes me wonder - who's the racist?) leading themselves to disaster under the influence of foreign symptom-solving.
In regards to that emergency food aid thing, I think you could probably have explained it better, as I don't think you were intending to come off in the manner many perceived. I have made the argument myself that pouring food aid on Africa is detrimental to their own food markets making it unprofitable for farmers to even bother with anything other than subsidence _________________ Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do
