ScottTheSculptor
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Stress causes suppression of a single protein.
This single protein is responsible for storing emotions in memory.
Those that are restricted in their ability to use/produce this protein are autistic.
Stress is physical or mental - errors in development causes stress.
Purely mental stress can be removed.
(Find the protien!)
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 8:14 pm Post subject: Stress |
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| Interesting concept. |
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ScottTheSculptor
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 12:15 am Post subject: basis |
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Humans develop until age ~20
development is evolution unfolding in sequence.
lastest major addition to human DNA =
Neanderthal to Homo Sapien
individual mind (family group only) to pack-mind (unlimited group)
Any error in devolopment will most likely interrupt the evolutionary sequence.
= not pack-mind
structure of memory - savant to pack delusional
logical to emotional
emotional "training" requires memory of emotion.
observation - emotions make humans delusional
single protein?
DNA is an iterative protein program.
Interrupt the program . . .
(yes, *very* aspie  )
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| The next step is rephrasing whatever it is you just posted so others can understand you. |
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ScottTheSculptor
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 5:43 am Post subject: |
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is it really that bad?
A series of logical points.
DNA being called an "iterative protein program" is the only "new" thing in there.
but self explanatory?
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Yes. You really need to elaborate, especially the terms you use. I googled terms like "pack mind" and "pack delusional" and came up with nothing. Also, try using complete sentences.
Maybe English isn't your first language. |
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 8:18 am Post subject: Re: basis |
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| ScottTheSculptor wrote: |
lastest major addition to human DNA =
Neanderthal to Homo Sapien |
That didn't happen. Neanderthals were a separate lineage. |
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naturalplastic
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 9:09 am Post subject: Re: What if? |
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| ScottTheSculptor wrote: | Stress causes suppression of a single protein.
This single protein is responsible for storing emotions in memory.
Those that are restricted in their ability to use/produce this protein are autistic.
Stress is physical or mental - errors in development causes stress.
Purely mental stress can be removed.
(Find the protien!) |
I dont understand your theory.
Are you saying that the lack of this protien causes autism.
So if you gave someone a shot of it, like insulin, they would stop being autistic? |
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ScottTheSculptor
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Can't tell if it's a lack of the protein, lack of receptors, "blocking" of the receptors or creation of the protein.
But what an ethical dilema.
Give them the protein (or ability to implement) and make them delusional.
Or just let them be logical, creative and "of the independent mind".
I'd refuse the protein. But would I do that to a child?
Neanderthal fuctionality.
That they moved to europe doesn't mean that they were not related.
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| ScottTheSculptor wrote: | Can't tell if it's a lack of the protein, lack of receptors, "blocking" of the receptors or creation of the protein.
But what an ethical dilema.
Give them the protein (or ability to implement) and make them delusional.
Or just let them be logical, creative and "of the independent mind".
I'd refuse the protein. But would I do that to a child?
Neanderthal fuctionality.
That they moved to europe doesn't mean that they were not related. |
But the puzzle doesnt end there.
Youre saying stress suppresses this protein.
And you imply constant stress permanently surpresses it.
So are you saying stress causes autism?
Or that autism causes stress, which in turn supresses the protien which causes.... uh...autism?
And if it is stress that causes autism, then youre saying people arent born autistic but are made autistic by their environment, or bad upbringing, or something like that. That would fly in the face of alot of evidence. |
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ScottTheSculptor
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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developmental stress can occur any time during development.
If the stress occurs before transitioning to pack-mind (social/self awareness, ego) then it can become permanent. Ongoing stresses, say natal ischemia or disease, continue to suppress this protein.
A primitive non-delusional mind will establish itself in this "environment."
Sees the world, moves it's limbs, not self aware, no ego, too damaged to "join the pack".
later stress with a delusion-capable mind just makes people intensely delusional, not autistic.
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Rainy wrote: | Yes. You really need to elaborate, especially the terms you use. I googled terms like "pack mind" and "pack delusional" and came up with nothing. Also, try using complete sentences.
Maybe English isn't your first language. |
Rainy is correct.
We can't read your mind ergo you must be thorough, and specific in the expression of your ideas.
Also, you'll need evidence to back your ideas.
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ScottTheSculptor
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Could you ask a specific question?
I used sentences in my most previous post in this thread.
The evidence = observed human behavior.
the logic = a single evolutionary step created "humanness", this is simply the ability to store emotional information in memory.
from that we get the ability to prioritize memory,
from that we get the ability to "rank" others by how they make us "feel".
from that we get symbology - rank is an abstraction, first symbols were for rank.
logic is ranking and associatiion
NTs rank people, autistics rank data.
(NTs rank autistic right out of the pack)
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