servicedogrights25
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 Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 3:45 pm Post subject: I think she's lying ... |
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| This girl that I know is telling me she is bipolar. My sister is bipolar, and I know what that looks like. This, however, is not it. She could be lying, but I am unsure. I think she feels somewhat left out because the two friends I have have mental disorders as well. Well, one only has a touch of anxiety and the other is truly bipolar. She also tells me she has Tourettes. When I asked her what her tic is, she told me she gets nervous twitches. Well, could those just be nervous twitches? I feel like justice is due for all of those who actually have it. |
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 4:37 pm Post subject: Re: I think she's lying ... |
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| servicedogrights25 wrote: | | This girl that I know is telling me she is bipolar. My sister is bipolar, and I know what that looks like. This, however, is not it. She could be lying, but I am unsure. I think she feels somewhat left out because the two friends I have have mental disorders as well. Well, one only has a touch of anxiety and the other is truly bipolar. She also tells me she has Tourettes. When I asked her what her tic is, she told me she gets nervous twitches. Well, could those just be nervous twitches? I feel like justice is due for all of those who actually have it. |
Does she say she's been diagnosed with BP disorder, or just that she suspects she has it? Just wondering, how would you feel if someone said the same about your aspergers because you don't act like someone-they-know-with-aspergers? A lot of people here have to face questions like that, and it can be upsetting to have to deal with disbelief on top of social difficulties.
Bipolar can be classified in several different subtypes (type 1; classic manic-depressive, type 2; mainly depressive etc etc) so your friend may have a different subtype than your sister. Her 'mania' may present differently, and her medication may also have an effect on her symptoms. Everyone has their own personality and history too, which impacts a lot on how they act, just like anyone else.
Bottom line, I think you shouldn't armchair diagnose people based on one or two individuals you know. Even if you have your doubts, it's not fair to accuse her of lying. |
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servicedogrights25
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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I appreciate you taking the time to answer my post. I can see what you mean. I do not know what armchair diagnosis is, however  but this sounds just about right to me. She didn't tell me she was diagnosed, but whenever my friend talks about being bipolar or me being an aspie, she basically jumps in and yells, "I'm BIPOLAR!" She does get depressed though, so that could be part of it. Thanks again. |
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| servicedogrights25 wrote: | | I appreciate you taking the time to answer my post. I can see what you mean. I do not know what armchair diagnosis is, however but this sounds just about right to me. She didn't tell me she was diagnosed, but whenever my friend talks about being bipolar or me being an aspie, she basically jumps in and yells, "I'm BIPOLAR!" She does get depressed though, so that could be part of it. Thanks again. |
My best friend has it too and she has the the really severe type of it. Actually, i have two friends with it. I wouldn't say she is lying because like said above, she maybe taking meds for it or whatever. I know that the two friends I have with it, you barely see it because I talk to them online but they've told me about their experiences with having it.
I would try to talk to her and ask her about it. If she can't give you any information about how she thinks she has it then she's probably faking. But I wouldn't jump to conclusions because you'll feel like a fool if you were actually wrong, you know?
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| Bipolar disorder is characterized by normal behavior punctuated by episodes of extreme behavior. Because of this, it is usually not immediately noticeable (depending on how quickly you cycle). |
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People act differently around different people. Maybe her bipolarity isn't as noticeble when she's around friends or something.
And chances are, you hang out with your sister a lot more than you hang out with this girl. |
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I used to hear voices all day long and I hid it so well that nobody could tell. I even hid it from myself. I wouldn't assume she was lying.
I know someone who says she is bipolar and I often feel she is exaggerating. But when I get these thoughts, I just ask myself "what is the difference?" Why deny her reality? I will be blunt if I think it is about something that actually matters but otherwise I am not going to act as her personal psychologist. As long as she is not manipulating you with guilt and as long as you don't think she is taking meds that she doesn't need, I think you probably shouldn't worry about it so much. |
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| Well she could be lying or she could not be but it's really not your part to judge whether she is or isn't. Just be her friend and be supportive, that's all you can be. |
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 9:31 am Post subject: |
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She could be mistaken rather than lying...
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| Who_Am_I wrote: | | She could be mistaken rather than lying... |
That's true. OP, may I ask, how old are your friends? I remember reading your Introduction post and that you were taken out of the school you were going to, but I don't think you mentioned your age. It could very well be that she read some symptoms, thought of a few cases that might match, but they might have been just that -a few cases- , but she jumped to a conclusion. It's possible that she does have some sort of disorder. However, being a (kid? teenager?) she doesn't have access to the wealth of information that psychologists have. In other words, she might think she's bipolar because she only knows about bipolar and a handful of other disorders. In reality, however, she may have something with some overlapping symptoms that she's not even aware of.
For her own sake, you should recommend she get a clinical diagnosis. If she really thinks she has a problem but doesn't know for sure, it'd be better if she found out what was truly affecting her so that she can receive help.
Of course, don't push it. Just mention it. She may not have the means to get a diagnosis (like health insurance), or maybe she really does just want attention and doesn't expect to be diagnosed. If she is serious, then she will likely listen and ask her parents for help. But if she doesn't, don't dwell on it. As long as she doesn't try to marginalize or discount your, your sister's, or your other friends' conditions (for example, trying to push you to do something that she should know is difficult/impossible for you. Though if she was prone to doing that, I wouldn't consider her much of a friend anyway.) |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:54 am Post subject: Re: I think she's lying ... |
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| servicedogrights25 wrote: | | This girl that I know is telling me she is bipolar. My sister is bipolar, and I know what that looks like. This, however, is not it. She could be lying, but I am unsure. I think she feels somewhat left out because the two friends I have have mental disorders as well. Well, one only has a touch of anxiety and the other is truly bipolar. She also tells me she has Tourettes. When I asked her what her tic is, she told me she gets nervous twitches. Well, could those just be nervous twitches? I feel like justice is due for all of those who actually have it. |
What sort of "justice" do you think is "due"???? I have clinical depression and I don't care if someone else lies about having any type of disorder.
As for the girl you know, unless you are a trained professional you can't make the call. Sorry, but things manifest in different ways in different people. She could very well be lying and could be someone who feels like she needs to lie or change things to fit in, which is part of a different disorder, so there ya go.
Also, if she is lying then who is it hurting? How do you plan to exact this justice for those who actually have it? Have you considered going to medical school, becoming a psychiatrist and then tracking her down once you are in a practice, coercing her to come to see you at work, then either diagnosing her or telling her she doesn't have it, after reminding her of whatt she said all these years ago?
Cause that'll show her!
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OliveOilMom, there is simply no need to be that way. I appreciate you responding to my post, but I have already acknowledged that there is the possibility I am wrong. Please take the time to review your attitude.
Everyone else, thank you. It is nice that there are others that can answer my...shall we say, questions. I will speak to her about this. CanisMajor, thank you for your in-depth response  It was very thorough and helpful. |
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| servicedogrights25 wrote: | OliveOilMom, there is simply no need to be that way. I appreciate you responding to my post, but I have already acknowledged that there is the possibility I am wrong. Please take the time to review your attitude.
Everyone else, thank you. It is nice that there are others that can answer my...shall we say, questions. I will speak to her about this. CanisMajor, thank you for your in-depth response It was very thorough and helpful. |
My attitude is fine. I was trying to point out the ridiculousness of wanting "justice" because some girl told a lie about being bipolar. That's a whole lot of overkill.
If she was faking bipolar and collecting disability and food stamps and medicaid and public housing and such because she was faking it, then I could see getting angry and wanting justice, because that would be a situation where her lie about the disorder was hurting others with the disorder. Her taking all the government benefits for faking the illness would mean there was someone else out there with the actual illness who wasn't getting the benefits they needed, because they were being given to someone who was faking it.
But justice for someone telling a casual lie which doesn't hurt anything? There are actual important things to desire justice for, and thats not one of them.
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Double post.
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| How much older are you than I? Must you really do this here and now? Ma'am, I am fourteen- merely a child compared to you. I do appreciate that you took the time to make your point, however, I am not very satisfied with the way you manifested it. |
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