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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyway, Bizboy, I'm sorry. I read too much into your comment and I shouldn't have been nasty to you.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who_Am_I wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
bizboy1 wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
bizboy1 wrote:
I've gotten two messages since I created my account. Both of them were from fat, ugly chicks.


They've stopped using MySpace angles?


*wondering if the attractive women whom he messaged are laughing about getting messages from an awkward loser...*





You must be confusing yourself with me. My mild Asperger's makes me act laid back (some say stoned) so I'm less awkward than you think. And I think I'm less of a loser than most men on dating sites. I have my issues but they really aren't that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. I'm assuming you were offended by my comment. I'm sorry if that's the case. I'm just stating the facts. And with regards to messaging attractive women and them laughing at me, I only messaged three people. Two were Asian and one white. The Asian women were above average looking and had a high match rating and similar interests with me. I've had hotter Asian women interested in me before. The white woman I messaged was hot and had similar interests as me. I only messaged her after she looked at my profile like 10 times. She hasn't responded yet but I disabled my account right after and only just reactivated it. So f*ck you sir.


I did not once say that you were an awkward loser.


Tbh, your previous post almost clearly referred to him as an awkward loser.


No, I was implying that that is what neurotypicals may think of him, as you know, Asperger's, social disability...
I wouldn't know whether he is, I've never spoken to him.
For the record, I don't think being awkward makes you a loser, just as I don't think that being unattractive makes a person undateworthy (and able to be dismissed as somehow less of a person).


Dating someone you're not attracted to takes the point out of dating. You can't convince yourself that you're attracted to someone when your instincts say 'no'. If you find extremely tanned girls with platina blond hair and lots of make-up attractive (hint: 99% of guys over 14 don't), you can convince yourself that what reality shows portray as attractive is not necessarily so, but that's about it.


I never said that people should date people they aren't attracted to, but is it really necessary to make sneering, dismissive comments like "Oh, did they stop using Myspace angles?".

MXH, think what you want. Like I said, I would not know what he's like.


Is it unnecessary? A lot of ugly girls ln free dating sites use them to make themselves look 100 lbs lighter. To make matters worse, they blur the picture, add Photoshop filters and so on to cover up other flaws.


I don't use dating sites, but I'd imagine that a lot of people, male and female, lied or were deceptive in some way. There seems to be so much focus, at least on the internet, on when fat/ugly women do it. Why focus on them and not everyone else?


Because she's deceiving the other part. Imagine of someone advertised a mint condition 1988 BMW M3, with 20" alloy wheels, a mileage of just 50,000 miles and an all leather interior for just 5,000 dollars on eBay. You reschedule your day, drive for an hour, pay for gas, toll booths and all that and when you get there, it's not an M3, but a 316 with a rusty frame, sawdust in the transmission, no alloy wheels, 220,000 miles on the odometer, lots of mold in the interior, and defective brakes, but the buyer still wants 5K for it. Wouldn't you feel angry?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kurgan wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
bizboy1 wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
bizboy1 wrote:
I've gotten two messages since I created my account. Both of them were from fat, ugly chicks.


They've stopped using MySpace angles?


*wondering if the attractive women whom he messaged are laughing about getting messages from an awkward loser...*





You must be confusing yourself with me. My mild Asperger's makes me act laid back (some say stoned) so I'm less awkward than you think. And I think I'm less of a loser than most men on dating sites. I have my issues but they really aren't that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. I'm assuming you were offended by my comment. I'm sorry if that's the case. I'm just stating the facts. And with regards to messaging attractive women and them laughing at me, I only messaged three people. Two were Asian and one white. The Asian women were above average looking and had a high match rating and similar interests with me. I've had hotter Asian women interested in me before. The white woman I messaged was hot and had similar interests as me. I only messaged her after she looked at my profile like 10 times. She hasn't responded yet but I disabled my account right after and only just reactivated it. So f*ck you sir.


I did not once say that you were an awkward loser.


Tbh, your previous post almost clearly referred to him as an awkward loser.


No, I was implying that that is what neurotypicals may think of him, as you know, Asperger's, social disability...
I wouldn't know whether he is, I've never spoken to him.
For the record, I don't think being awkward makes you a loser, just as I don't think that being unattractive makes a person undateworthy (and able to be dismissed as somehow less of a person).


Dating someone you're not attracted to takes the point out of dating. You can't convince yourself that you're attracted to someone when your instincts say 'no'. If you find extremely tanned girls with platina blond hair and lots of make-up attractive (hint: 99% of guys over 14 don't), you can convince yourself that what reality shows portray as attractive is not necessarily so, but that's about it.


I never said that people should date people they aren't attracted to, but is it really necessary to make sneering, dismissive comments like "Oh, did they stop using Myspace angles?".

MXH, think what you want. Like I said, I would not know what he's like.


Is it unnecessary? A lot of ugly girls ln free dating sites use them to make themselves look 100 lbs lighter. To make matters worse, they blur the picture, add Photoshop filters and so on to cover up other flaws.


I don't use dating sites, but I'd imagine that a lot of people, male and female, lied or were deceptive in some way. There seems to be so much focus, at least on the internet, on when fat/ugly women do it. Why focus on them and not everyone else?


Because she's deceiving the other part. Imagine of someone advertised a mint condition 1988 BMW M3, with 20" alloy wheels and an all leather interior for just 5,000 dollars on eBay. You reschedule your day, drive for an hour, pay for gas, toll booths and all that and when you get there, it's not an M3, but a 316 with a rusty frame, sawdust in the transmission, no alloy wheels, lots of mold in the interior, and defective brakes, but the buyer still wants 5K for it. Wouldn't you feel angry?


But those things affect the performance of the car. Lying about your attractiveness is more like lying about the colour of the paint.
You didn't answer my question about focussing on them and not everyone else who lies.

Maybe the ones who doctor their photos are hoping that guys will get to like them as people enough that their physical unattractiveness will be less of an issue?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

smudge wrote:


Who_Am_I wrote:
There seems to be so much focus, at least on the internet, on when fat/ugly women do it. Why focus on them and not everyone else?


Yes. Why?


because its done to fat/ugly men irl. So they pass it along online. hive mentality
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kurgan wrote:


Because she's deceiving the other part. Imagine of someone advertised a mint condition 1988 BMW M3, with 20" alloy wheels, a mileage of just 50,000 miles and an all leather interior for just 5,000 dollars on eBay. You reschedule your day, drive for an hour, pay for gas, toll booths and all that and when you get there, it's not an M3, but a 316 with a rusty frame, sawdust in the transmission, no alloy wheels, 220,000 miles on the odometer, lots of mold in the interior, and defective brakes, but the buyer still wants 5K for it. Wouldn't you feel angry?


Exactly.. has happened to me numerous times in the past.. and then she normally has the nerve to get bitchy with me when I don't follow through with taking her out.. It's why I've started mandating we meet at a public place first.. I get there 30 minutes early and sit and wait, if I don't like what i see, I just get up and leave.

It's the same as if I went to a bar and started flashing around a wad of cash (all 1's with a few 20's and 100's wrapped around the outside) and got tons of girls.. it would be the same falsehood. I was lying about my status and wealth in order to get a mate.. same as these other girls are lying about their appearance to get a mate.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

smudge wrote:

Exactly. It's very hypocritical.


if a guy isn't ugly, stupid, uneducated and s on (a lot of the frustrated guys here are both athletic and intelligent), he shouldn't have to settle for someone who is. Your instincts won't allow you to date someone with a less attractive set of genetics.

There are tons of unattractive girls who reject guys in their own league who'd be very happy to date them.

Quote:

Yes. Why?


Because it's deceptive.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who_Am_I wrote:

I don't use dating sites, but I'd imagine that a lot of people, male and female, lied or were deceptive in some way. There seems to be so much focus, at least on the internet, on when fat/ugly women do it. Why focus on them and not everyone else?

My point is that besides the fact that it's just nasty to make fun of people for being physically unattractive, is that, if you have something wrong with you (and Asperger's counts), then people are probably making the same dismissive, sneering comments about you. I'm not saying that's right, but why is it right for you to do it to other people?


Brilliant!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:

I don't use dating sites, but I'd imagine that a lot of people, male and female, lied or were deceptive in some way. There seems to be so much focus, at least on the internet, on when fat/ugly women do it. Why focus on them and not everyone else?

My point is that besides the fact that it's just nasty to make fun of people for being physically unattractive, is that, if you have something wrong with you (and Asperger's counts), then people are probably making the same dismissive, sneering comments about you. I'm not saying that's right, but why is it right for you to do it to other people?


Brilliant!
Because people are very keen to police women's appearance/behavior/fertility/pretty much everything.


I understand that elderly gentleman at the end of the bar finds you attractive, perhaps instead of sneering at his age, you should get to know him before you dismiss him..

Oh, wait? You're not interested? He's too "Old"? Oh..
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rabbittss wrote:
Kurgan wrote:


Because she's deceiving the other part. Imagine of someone advertised a mint condition 1988 BMW M3, with 20" alloy wheels, a mileage of just 50,000 miles and an all leather interior for just 5,000 dollars on eBay. You reschedule your day, drive for an hour, pay for gas, toll booths and all that and when you get there, it's not an M3, but a 316 with a rusty frame, sawdust in the transmission, no alloy wheels, 220,000 miles on the odometer, lots of mold in the interior, and defective brakes, but the buyer still wants 5K for it. Wouldn't you feel angry?


Exactly.. has happened to me numerous times in the past.. and then she normally has the nerve to get bitchy with me when I don't follow through with taking her out.. It's why I've started mandating we meet at a public place first.. I get there 30 minutes early and sit and wait, if I don't like what i see, I just get up and leave.


I wish I had the conscience to do that. Laughing When this has happened to me, I've stayed through the whole date, which was extremely awkward.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kurgan wrote:
rabbittss wrote:
Kurgan wrote:


Because she's deceiving the other part. Imagine of someone advertised a mint condition 1988 BMW M3, with 20" alloy wheels, a mileage of just 50,000 miles and an all leather interior for just 5,000 dollars on eBay. You reschedule your day, drive for an hour, pay for gas, toll booths and all that and when you get there, it's not an M3, but a 316 with a rusty frame, sawdust in the transmission, no alloy wheels, 220,000 miles on the odometer, lots of mold in the interior, and defective brakes, but the buyer still wants 5K for it. Wouldn't you feel angry?


Exactly.. has happened to me numerous times in the past.. and then she normally has the nerve to get bitchy with me when I don't follow through with taking her out.. It's why I've started mandating we meet at a public place first.. I get there 30 minutes early and sit and wait, if I don't like what i see, I just get up and leave.


I wish I had the conscience to do that. Laughing When this has happened to me, I've stayed through the whole date, which was extremely awkward.


I used to do that.. but it got to expensive. I got tired of them realizing there was no hope, and then ordering the most expensive thing on the menu when I took them out.. Now, if she's not even remotely attractive to me.. I just walk..
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rabbittss wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:

I don't use dating sites, but I'd imagine that a lot of people, male and female, lied or were deceptive in some way. There seems to be so much focus, at least on the internet, on when fat/ugly women do it. Why focus on them and not everyone else?

My point is that besides the fact that it's just nasty to make fun of people for being physically unattractive, is that, if you have something wrong with you (and Asperger's counts), then people are probably making the same dismissive, sneering comments about you. I'm not saying that's right, but why is it right for you to do it to other people?


Brilliant!
Because people are very keen to police women's appearance/behavior/fertility/pretty much everything.


I understand that elderly gentleman at the end of the bar finds you attractive, perhaps instead of sneering at his age, you should get to know him before you dismiss him..

Oh, wait? You're not interested? He's too "Old"? Oh..


Yup, being bothered by mature adults creeping on my barely legal ass, which is being upset at a behavior by the way
is exactly the same as hurling abuse at people for their physical appearance
We could totally discuss the topic at hand but if you'd rather make is all about me as a person instead I guess that's cool.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rabbittss wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
rabbittss wrote:
Kurgan wrote:


Because she's deceiving the other part. Imagine of someone advertised a mint condition 1988 BMW M3, with 20" alloy wheels, a mileage of just 50,000 miles and an all leather interior for just 5,000 dollars on eBay. You reschedule your day, drive for an hour, pay for gas, toll booths and all that and when you get there, it's not an M3, but a 316 with a rusty frame, sawdust in the transmission, no alloy wheels, 220,000 miles on the odometer, lots of mold in the interior, and defective brakes, but the buyer still wants 5K for it. Wouldn't you feel angry?


Exactly.. has happened to me numerous times in the past.. and then she normally has the nerve to get bitchy with me when I don't follow through with taking her out.. It's why I've started mandating we meet at a public place first.. I get there 30 minutes early and sit and wait, if I don't like what i see, I just get up and leave.


I wish I had the conscience to do that. Laughing When this has happened to me, I've stayed through the whole date, which was extremely awkward.


I used to do that.. but it got to expensive. I got tired of them realizing there was no hope, and then ordering the most expensive thing on the menu when I took them out.. Now, if she's not even remotely attractive to me.. I just walk..


How do the girls react when you do that? If it happens to me again, I don't want to scare them from dating other people online.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

smudge wrote:
rabbittss wrote:
It's why I've started mandating we meet at a public place first.. I get there 30 minutes early and sit and wait, if I don't like what i see, I just get up and leave.


Wow. I actually hope you don't get a girlfriend. God knows how you'd treat her.


Two wrongs don't make a right, but deceiving him wasn't nice either.
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