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| edgewaters wrote: | My favourite is the Pig War, between British North America (soon to be Canada) and the US.
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Lyman Cutlar, an American farmer who had moved onto the island claiming rights to live there under the Donation Land Claim Act, found a large black pig rooting in his garden.[2][5][7] He had found the pig eating his tubers. This was not the first occurrence. Cutlar was so upset that he took aim and shot the pig, killing it. It turned out that the pig was owned by an Irishman, Charles Griffin, who was employed by the Hudson's Bay Company to run the sheep ranch.[2][5][7] He also owned several pigs which he allowed to roam freely. The two had lived in peace until this incident. Cutlar offered $10 to Griffin to compensate for the pig, but Griffin was unsatisfied with this offer and demanded $100. Following this reply, Cutlar believed he should not have to pay for the pig because the pig had been trespassing on his land. (A possibly apocryphal story claims Cutlar said to Griffin, "It was eating my potatoes." Griffin replied, "It is up to you to keep your potatoes out of my pig."[7]) When British authorities threatened to arrest Cutlar, American settlers called for military protection.
Brigadier-General William S. Harney, commanding the Dept. of Oregon, initially dispatched 66 American soldiers of the 9th Infantry under the command of Captain George Pickett to San Juan Island with orders to prevent the British from landing.[2][5] Concerned that a squatter population of Americans would begin to occupy San Juan Island if the Americans were not kept in check, the British sent three warships under the command of Captain Geoffrey Hornby to counter the Americans.[2][5][7] Pickett was famously quoted as saying defiantly, "We'll make a Bunker Hill of it," placing him in the national limelight. [8] The situation continued to escalate. By August 10, 1859, 461 Americans with 14 cannons under Colonel Silas Casey were opposed by five British warships mounting 70 guns and carrying 2,140 men.[2][5][7] During this time, no shots were fired.
The governor of the Colony of Vancouver Island, James Douglas, ordered British Rear Admiral Robert L. Baynes to land marines on San Juan Island and engage the American soldiers under the command of Brigadier-General Harney. (Harney's forces had occupied the island since July 27, 1859.) Baynes refused, deciding that "two great nations in a war over a squabble about a pig" was foolish.[5][7] Local commanding officers on both sides had been given essentially the same orders: defend yourselves, but absolutely do not fire the first shot. For several days, the British and U.S. soldiers exchanged insults, each side attempting to goad the others into firing the first shot, but discipline held on both sides, and thus no shots were fired.
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350–351 Roman civil war
360–361 Roman civil war
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:12 pm Post subject: Re: Great wars past and present. |
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| ArrantPariah wrote: | | Raptor wrote: | After we found out that Castro had sh!t on us like that all of those so called refugees that were criminals should have been flown or shipped back to Cuba in chains and thrown back at him.
I don't know why we ever allowed Castro to have power over Cuba. Had it been done my way we would have made a show of quashing that revolution just to make and example and send a message to Khrushchev. |
Fortunately, you are not the president.
However, the CIA did attempt to murder Mr. Castro a number of times. They didn't quite succeed in putting Mr. Castro's head in a box to send to Mr. Kruschchev. Our government did manage to murder a whole lot of other people, though, and made splendid examples of Salvador Allende and Ngô Đ́nh Diệm .
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Joker wrote:
| Quote: | | The U.S should stay out of other countries afairs but we never do that. |
It's necessary in some cases............... |
Not really. But our military-industrial complex always has to have some silly excuse to have resources sent its way. |
| Quote: | | Fortunately, you are not the president. |
Instead of genocide I'd have trollicide.....
| Quote: | | However, the CIA did attempt to murder Mr. Castro a number of times. They didn't quite succeed in putting Mr. Castro's head in a box to send to Mr. Kruschchev. |
I would have dropped so many US troops on Cuba in 1959 that it would have sunk another 12 inches into the ocean until it was all over which wouldn't take long, trust me. They'd know they'd been liberated and so would the rest of the world..........
| Quote: | | But our military-industrial complex always has to have some silly excuse to have resources sent its way |
Of course; every war we've ever had starting with the revolution has been solely at the behest of the evil military industrial complex. Just ask any liberal..........
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| The Seven Day War - I like its brevity. |
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| techstepgenr8tion wrote: | | The Seven Day War - I like its brevity. |
The seven day war was interesting. |
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ArrantPariah
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:12 pm Post subject: Re: Great wars past and present. |
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| Raptor wrote: | | Instead of genocide I'd have trollicide..... |
That is merely another flavour of genocide.
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I would have dropped so many US troops on Cuba in 1959 that it would have sunk another 12 inches into the ocean until it was all over which wouldn't take long, trust me. They'd know they'd been liberated and so would the rest of the world..........
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Why not just annihilate the island with nuclear weapons? You would have a huge number of soldiers land on Cuba, and then jump up and down until the island fell 12 inches into the sea? You remind me of Caligula.
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| Quote: | | But our military-industrial complex always has to have some silly excuse to have resources sent its way |
Of course; every war we've ever had starting with the revolution has been solely at the behest of the evil military industrial complex. Just ask any liberal.......... |
I'm glad that we finally agree. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: Great wars past and present. |
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| ArrantPariah wrote: | | Raptor wrote: | | Instead of genocide I'd have trollicide..... |
That is merely another flavour of genocide.
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I would have dropped so many US troops on Cuba in 1959 that it would have sunk another 12 inches into the ocean until it was all over which wouldn't take long, trust me. They'd know they'd been liberated and so would the rest of the world..........
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Why not just annihilate the island with nuclear weapons? You would have a huge number of soldiers land on Cuba, and then jump up and down until the island fell 12 inches into the sea? You remind me of Caligula.
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| Quote: | | But our military-industrial complex always has to have some silly excuse to have resources sent its way |
Of course; every war we've ever had starting with the revolution has been solely at the behest of the evil military industrial complex. Just ask any liberal.......... |
I'm glad that we finally agree. |
| Quote: | | That is merely another flavour of genocide. |
It targets trolls, not that I'm mentioning anyone in specific..............
| Quote: | | Why not just annihilate the island with nuclear weapons? |
Duh, the reason for not tolerating a communist Cuba is because of the very close proximity of Cuba to the US. In a word; fallout.
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| edgewaters wrote: | My favourite is the Pig War, between British North America (soon to be Canada) and the US.
From the wiki:
Lyman Cutlar, an American farmer who had moved onto the island claiming rights to live there under the Donation Land Claim Act, found a large black pig rooting in his garden.[2][5][7] He had found the pig eating his tubers. This was not the first occurrence. Cutlar was so upset that he took aim and shot the pig, killing it. It turned out that the pig was owned by an Irishman, Charles Griffin, who was employed by the Hudson's Bay Company to run the sheep ranch.[2][5][7] He also owned several pigs which he allowed to roam freely. The two had lived in peace until this incident. Cutlar offered $10 to Griffin to compensate for the pig, but Griffin was unsatisfied with this offer and demanded $100. Following this reply, Cutlar believed he should not have to pay for the pig because the pig had been trespassing on his land. (A possibly apocryphal story claims Cutlar said to Griffin, "It was eating my potatoes." Griffin replied, "It is up to you to keep your potatoes out of my pig."[7]) When British authorities threatened to arrest Cutlar, American settlers called for military protection.
Brigadier-General William S. Harney, commanding the Dept. of Oregon, initially dispatched 66 American soldiers of the 9th Infantry under the command of Captain George Pickett to San Juan Island with orders to prevent the British from landing.[2][5] Concerned that a squatter population of Americans would begin to occupy San Juan Island if the Americans were not kept in check, the British sent three warships under the command of Captain Geoffrey Hornby to counter the Americans.[2][5][7] Pickett was famously quoted as saying defiantly, "We'll make a Bunker Hill of it," placing him in the national limelight. [8] The situation continued to escalate. By August 10, 1859, 461 Americans with 14 cannons under Colonel Silas Casey were opposed by five British warships mounting 70 guns and carrying 2,140 men.[2][5][7] During this time, no shots were fired.
The governor of the Colony of Vancouver Island, James Douglas, ordered British Rear Admiral Robert L. Baynes to land marines on San Juan Island and engage the American soldiers under the command of Brigadier-General Harney. (Harney's forces had occupied the island since July 27, 1859.) Baynes refused, deciding that "two great nations in a war over a squabble about a pig" was foolish.[5][7] Local commanding officers on both sides had been given essentially the same orders: defend yourselves, but absolutely do not fire the first shot. For several days, the British and U.S. soldiers exchanged insults, each side attempting to goad the others into firing the first shot, but discipline held on both sides, and thus no shots were fired.
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The pig that launched a thousand ships!
"The Pig War" is also one of the more interesting war NAMES.
But it still takes a back seat to "the War of Jenkin's Ear".
Jenkins was a british sailor who's ship was pulled over by a Spanish navy ship in the 1600's.
Jenkins protested that he and his crew were not smugglers, but the Spanish captain said "you are English, and all English are smugglers" and cut jenkins ear off and threw at him.
Jenkins kept the dismembered ear in a box and for the next years traveled England and lobbied to have england go to war with Spain in retaliation. Finnally his dream came true and the King and Parliament agreed to declare war on Spain. And they even named the war after his hapless ear. |
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| techstepgenr8tion wrote: | | Is it ever funny to find the words 'great' and 'war' ironic when situated next to one another? |
"Wars not make one great." |
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| Declension wrote: | | ruveyn wrote: | | My only complaint is that 90 percent of Germany and Japan survived the war. It it had been ten percent the world would have been a better place. |
Yes, because the former Axis powers are now the greatest threats to world stability. Sorry, what? |
That's because ruveyn has to imagine that everyone in Germany and Japan were irredeemably evil. Thankfully, the rest of the world knows that people can learn from their mistakes and change.
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| There is no such thing as a great war. At most a war is necessary, but that doesn't make it great. |
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| AstroGeek wrote: | | There is no such thing as a great war. At most a war is necessary, but that doesn't make it great. |
quoted for truth.
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| Kraichgauer wrote: | | Declension wrote: | | ruveyn wrote: | | My only complaint is that 90 percent of Germany and Japan survived the war. It it had been ten percent the world would have been a better place. |
Yes, because the former Axis powers are now the greatest threats to world stability. Sorry, what? |
That's because ruveyn has to imagine that everyone in Germany and Japan were irredeemably evil. Thankfully, the rest of the world knows that people can learn from their mistakes and change.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
True Germany has paid for it's crimes time to move on. |
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| As a child I witnessed some truly great wars in the kitchen of my home. There was rarely a winner, although mom knocked daddy down once or twice. I suspect similar wars go on every moment of every day as the war of the genders will never be won or over. |
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