Mootoo
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| ...masturbate to [redacted by moderator because of nudity: showed video of a prisoner who was a little aroused] this kind of imagery? (Not porn, but you get what I mean?) |
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Prof_Pretorius
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What sort of sick joke are you trying to put over on us ????
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Mootoo
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Guantanamo is a joke? |
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visagrunt
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I think it's a bit of a mistake to use broad brush labels like, "perverted."
Everybody fantasizes when masturbating. Everyone. And the nature of those fantasies are different for everyone. But perhaps most importantly, the linkage between those fantasies and our sexual behaviours is, for the vast majority of people, tempered by two things--the corresponding behaviours of sexual partners, and sexual ethics. For example, power and dominance are frequent aspects of sexual fantasy--but when these are translated into sexual behaviour, it is always within the construct of ethical sexual behaviour: safe, sane, consenual.
So, for my part I subscribe to Rule 34 of the internet: if it exists, someone has made porn about it. There is nothing that human beings cannot sexualize in some fashion. So whatever you, personally, choose to masturbate to, it cannot be described as perverse.
What would be perverse is acting out your fantasies with an unwilling partner, with a partner incapable of expressing consent, or engaging in actions that no rational person could be expected to consent to. When your behaviours, rather than your fantasies, cross those lines, that is the only time that perversity enters the sexual lexicon.
In my view.
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Mootoo
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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visagrunt, aha, so the prison itself is perverse? 
What's weird is that I get off this stuff, but politically I'm very anti-authoritarian. |
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AstroGeek
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| visagrunt wrote: | | So, for my part I subscribe to Rule 34 of the internet: if it exists, someone has made porn about it. There is nothing that human beings cannot sexualize in some fashion. So whatever you, personally, choose to masturbate to, it cannot be described as perverse. |
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visagrunt
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| Mootoo wrote: | visagrunt, aha, so the prison itself is perverse?
What's weird is that I get off this stuff, but politically I'm very anti-authoritarian. |
Not weird at all. Fanstasies are about escapism.
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Barefoot_Boy
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| visagrunt wrote: | | Mootoo wrote: | visagrunt, aha, so the prison itself is perverse?
What's weird is that I get off this stuff, but politically I'm very anti-authoritarian. |
Not weird at all. Fanstasies are about escapism. |
I find it most exciting to do the escapism thing. You know, like with the prison stuff. Now I do have some problems with the real stuff, but I really like the roleplay things. I have a friend who also likes roleplay stuff. We get together sometimes and put together prison type scenes that we would like to make into a little movie for ourselves. We act out some pretty wild stuff. You could call it fantasy. I think many people like things similar to this. Send me a message Mootoo if you want to talk to me about some of this.
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Scottinoz
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:14 am Post subject: Re: Is it perverted to... |
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| Mootoo wrote: | | ...masturbate to [removed link] this kind of imagery? (Not porn, but you get what I mean?) |
Hahaha that's f@cked up, Do you like the submissive or dominate side? |
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Mootoo
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: Is it perverted to... |
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| Scottinoz wrote: |
Hahaha that's f@cked up, Do you like the submissive or dominate side? |
In my fantasies a sub, but could easily imagine being either way (sadomasochism). |
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