marioLuvs1ups
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| Quote: | | Devs used to take risks, and put their all into the games they produced, as opposed to just trying to cash in on what's popular. |
Well, I think that has to do a lot with these gaming magazines telling people what to buy and what not to buy, just like how our mainstream media tells us what fads to do and the such. It's like gamers and people don't have a mind and can't think for themselves.
| Quote: | | To be fair, some devs still do put a lot of effort into their games, but those games tend not to sell very well |
So what your saying is is that if the developer doesn't create a game based on whats popular, he'll automatically get bad ratings for his game? Cause that sounds about right :/
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NeueZiel
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I really don't play games much anymore, the only thing in recent memory is Diablo 3 and the Demon/Dark Souls games. I feel like every other game series I use to like just isn't worth the time anymore and the whole Mass Effect 3 debacle turned me off more to gaming in general than anything. All the genres and types of games I like are pretty retro or archaic anyway, like srpgs, but thankfully we're probably getting the new Fire Emblem and Soul Hackers for the 3ds.
I'd say the future of gaming worries me, it looks kinda bleak, but I'm pretty happy to retire from the hobby playing a couple of games a year. Can focus on other stuff more while developers like EA keep churning out the kind of stuff that will sell nomatter what.
I guess I'm a retro gamer, to be on topic. |
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Tross
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 4:01 am Post subject: |
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| marioLuvs1ups wrote: | | Quote: | | Devs used to take risks, and put their all into the games they produced, as opposed to just trying to cash in on what's popular. |
Well, I think that has to do a lot with these gaming magazines telling people what to buy and what not to buy, just like how our mainstream media tells us what fads to do and the such. It's like gamers and people don't have a mind and can't think for themselves. |
Agreed. Apparently people put so much stock in the average score on metacritic, that all they really care about is that number. But, do they stop to consider what that means? Do those who even read reviews read between the lines and treat them as opinion pieces, as opposed to the bible? Is it really a total disaster for a mainstream title to have a metascore below 90/100?
| marioLuvs1ups wrote: | [ | Quote: | | To be fair, some devs still do put a lot of effort into their games, but those games tend not to sell very well |
So what your saying is is that if the developer doesn't create a game based on whats popular, he'll automatically get bad ratings for his game? Cause that sounds about right :/ |
I was speaking in terms of sales, as opposed to ratings, though that can also translate into ratings, which is part of the reason why I stopped reading reviews quite a while ago. I'm not saying all reviewers are like that, but a lot of them tend to praise the so called "AAA" titles, while being more critical of anything that dares to be a little bit different. But, I never said all games that are different sell poorly, or that they all get bad scores on metacritic. I just said that that tends to be the case. There are exceptions, which I'm glad for. The Portal series is a prime example of how to take a neat idea, and combine it with popular gameplay mechanics to create something new, and to my knowledge, it has done really well. But, there are other examples of reasonably successful games that took risks. Heavy Rain didn't do too bad, and it was an experiment with a completely different style of gameplay than the norm, and pushed the boundaries of videogames as a narrative medium.
But, for every different title that successful, there are plenty of games like Folklore and Brutal Legend, that don't sell nearly a quarter as well as they deserve to, and end up being underrated. In both cases, sales weren't enough to warrant a sequel. I'm glad Double Fine has continued to make downloadable games, and they're one of my favorite modern devs, but I wish they still made disc based games. I recall a time when games like the ones I mentioned would do reasonably well, but it seems like it's now an uphill battle for any dev who has the nerve to make anything that isn't a total ripoff of the common fps or hack and slash formula that we see so much of today. |
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NowhereMan1966
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| Both! I've been playing a little bit of Ultima III, one of 1983's hottest games. |
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Tixylix
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I play both but probably mostly retro. I have a Wii but no other current gen consoles, though I really want a 3DS. My absolute favourite console of all time has to be the Mega Drive (Genesis) and after that my PS2 probably gets the most use for both PS1 and PS2 games. I collect classic consoles from 16-bit era on, I have a Master System but that's mainly to complete my Sega console collection, from which I'm missing a 32X and a Game Gear (not counting the SG-1000 as that was never released in Europe).
Favourite game I can't choose between Sonic 2 and 3. I don't play much in the way of PC games but I love Black & White and Theme Hospital. |
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Starscream
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to be honest i play both, through i do prefer in my heart of hearts retrogaming, just cause i prefer the look, style and the instant trip back to my childhood everytime i switch on my Mega Drive(Genesis), but also getting to own consoles i wanted as a kid now i can afford them as a adult, main one for me being the Neo Geo AES and maybe the Sega Nomad for a close 2nd, plus collecting retro hardware is one of my main AS intrests, nothing beats the feeling of playing a retro game on real hardware^^
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woshi
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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No-one here who is a serious games Collector?
here's some stuff I own, spelsamling.se/ataru
But I have much much more than this ofc, I think I got between 1200-1300 games, I've been collecting again for 1,5 years. Before that I had sold of everything I had before
Favorite consoles:
Nes/Famicom
Sega Saturn
Playstation 1
Master System
Atari 2600
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ZX_SpectrumDisorder
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| I've had all that, but dumped and sold a bunch of stuff. I wouldn't say I was a collector anymore. I remember thinking it's just pointless stuff and got rid of it, it was kind of liberating in a way. |
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NorthPark
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I'm more of a Modern games person.
When I'm not playing my PS2, PS3 (sold), or Xbox 360, I play my N64 or SNES.
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murasaki_ahiru
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| guitarman2010 wrote: | | I enjoy both retro and newer games, but find a majority of my game playing is more toward the older games. I actually own an old Atari 2600, an NES and SNES but choose to play those older games through emulation. The best emulators of course are running on a Windows based PC but I use this Android tablet more for them. I also have a cheap knockoff of a Sony PSP that emulates GB, GBA, SNES, NES and Sega Genesis which does alright for Gameboy and NES games but horrible on the 16-bit consoles. If you are interested in one of these devices they have them all over eBay, just search for "mp5 PSP"......I guess they say "mp5" deals with emulation. Ironically it plays GBA roms better than the 16-bit......go figure on that lol. I also recently got a number of emulators running on my Nintendo DS via a flash card. I have a PS3 available to use anytime but the only game I really play on it is the version of Mortal Kombat II which was downloaded from the PS Store. |
I love the retro stuff too. I like the idea of playing old school stuff via a emulator on my DS, where do I get these? Ta.
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brawnybalboa
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I am not what would be defined as a retro gamer, however I do tend to find that I very often revisit and play most of the PS1 & PS2 titles I own. In my opinion many of these games were polished masterpieces where phenomenal gameplay was favoured over good graphics, although many are a combination of the two. The games I revisit are as follows:
PS1:
Crash Bandicoot 1 & 3
Spyro 2 & 3
Digimon World (original)
G-Police Weapons of Justice
Theme Park World
PS2:
GTA Vice City & San Andreas (IMO the greatest game ever designed)
Gran Turismo 4
PC:
LOTR Battle for Middle Earth I
Age of Empires II
Command & Conquer Generals
Theme Hospital
All these games have aged well, so despite bigger 'better' games being brought out and sequels, they still hold their own and are incredibly entertaining.
I own a few games which aged really poorly, Final Fantasy XII and Burnout 3 especially. I can hardly play them any more.
Modern games are pretty much a no go for me these days. IMO modern gaming is too much about playing against others online, making it look good, and downloadable content. Apart from Skyrim and GTA IV I haven't bought a new game in 3 years. |
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NeueZiel
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:40 am Post subject: |
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| brawnybalboa wrote: |
Modern games are pretty much a no go for me these days. IMO modern gaming is too much about playing against others online, making it look good, and downloadable content. Apart from Skyrim and GTA IV I haven't bought a new game in 3 years. |
Some of my favorite games, like Starcraft, revolve around playing others but I agree with you. Everything now is either an mmo or is somehow optimized for online and co-op. Some games handle it really well, like the Souls games but the thing is that they are still really fun and challenging even without online. I LOATHED how Resident Evil 5 was built around co-op, I beat it and was heavily underwhelmed by the game that was inferior to RE4. Everyone told me "You gotta do co-op, its what makes the game!", sorry but no I don't give a sh**. Stop shoving co-op and online down my throat, if I want it I'll play a game built around online. Everything is co-op now and developers always lie and say you don't have to do it but it really ends up being the way they "intend" for you to play. Again, I think the Souls games handle this perfectly, but that's it.
They're actually making an "online" dungeon crawler Silent Hill game now, who'd have thought..  |
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scorpileo
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well.. I am playing zelda OOT Pokemon crystal and sonic 2 atm so retro I guess.
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| I play mmorpgs |
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brawnybalboa
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| NeueZiel wrote: | Some of my favorite games, like Starcraft, revolve around playing others but I agree with you. Everything now is either an mmo or is somehow optimized for online and co-op. Some games handle it really well, like the Souls games but the thing is that they are still really fun and challenging even without online. I LOATHED how Resident Evil 5 was built around co-op, I beat it and was heavily underwhelmed by the game that was inferior to RE4. Everyone told me "You gotta do co-op, its what makes the game!", sorry but no I don't give a sh**. Stop shoving co-op and online down my throat, if I want it I'll play a game built around online. Everything is co-op now and developers always lie and say you don't have to do it but it really ends up being the way they "intend" for you to play. Again, I think the Souls games handle this perfectly, but that's it.
They're actually making an "online" dungeon crawler Silent Hill game now, who'd have thought.. |
I agree with you. Many people I know are obsessed with World of Warcraft, or Call of Duty. I find them terribly boring for the most part. Internet co-op works well with sports games, FIFA, Madden etc, as sports games are simulations that cannot carry a story line, hence the co-op online establishes depth and longevity (not to mention up to date rosters etc). RPG's & FPS's should not depend on online communities to run the game for them. Most of the best games of modern times were not multiplayer (The Sims, Crash Bandicoot, GTA San Andreas, Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion), hence it is not the be all and end all. |
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