androbot2084
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| So why do geniuses need to be cured? |
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Sweetleaf
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| androbot2084 wrote: | | So why do geniuses need to be cured? |
We're not all geniuses, I regard myself as intelligent but not that intelligent.
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androbot2084
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| Very few neurotypicals regard me as a genius. most regard me as a borderline retard. |
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LennytheWicked
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Sweetleaf wrote: | | androbot2084 wrote: | | So why do geniuses need to be cured? |
We're not all geniuses, I regard myself as intelligent but not that intelligent. |
Agreed. According to my IQ score I am...but if I'm a genius I fear for humanity. |
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Sweetleaf
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| LennytheWicked wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | androbot2084 wrote: | | So why do geniuses need to be cured? |
We're not all geniuses, I regard myself as intelligent but not that intelligent. |
Agreed. According to my IQ score I am...but if I'm a genius I fear for humanity. |
If I am such a genius why do I fail at life? I mean seriously...If I were a genius I might have figured something useful out.
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androbot2084
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| YOU FIGURED OUT HOW TO MAKE COMMUNISM WORK. |
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The problems with Autism Speaks.
Something self inflicted, just as it has been. The main problem is bringing up human thinking, and finding that it is not the majority right opinion they expected, a minority of wrong that could be corrected, the basis of religion and the penal system.
Recently we have noticed that the publically most religious are in fact the worst sinners. Private prisons pay judges kickbacks to keep their cells full, and those that become teachers do it for the young flesh available.
Too many held the view that Teachers, Preachers, The Courts, were somehow above that. When advanced Psych students were sent to mental hospitals, the staff claimed they were all deranged.
Those tried for witchcraft are always convicted.
This brings up one thing, the myth of the sane human. I follow Jung, "Show me a sane man, and I will cure him."
While figures over many years show that homosexuals number 1% of the population, which going back to Kraft Ebbing, Masters and Johnson, and the people they interviewed, everyone agreed with the 1%.
After a Gay Community formed, got some benefits, the numbers shot up to 3%. It seems a lot of people who did not fit anywhere else, sought the legal protections of being gay. Whether they ever had gay sex is unknown, but not needed for getting on the gravy train.
The same seems to have happened with Autism, funding produces an epidemic in what was a stable population over time, and auties were not overlooked in the past.
Autism Speaks was founded for reasonable purposes, family involvment, and no over the hill actor repping for the condition, doing telethons.
History tells us that every village had an idiot, and the fool is a tarot card. So both forms were known in classical times. Autism Speaks were village idiot focused, and the fools complained.
Once there was money, those who were not idiots or fools wanted some, and diversity was born. Any differance should be funded, at least their self elected leaders.
If Autism was a religion, it would be the fastest growing one. We got sects!
If that was not bad enough we have drug companies seeking new pill markets, School Districts going after the Special Education money, and the Government using it for a cover for Lead Poisoning, FAS, and other national discraces they allowed.
Autistic criteria no longer fits the Autistic we have known, and is being rewritten to include Big Tent Autism. Autism Speaks has stuck with the idiots, disowned drug companies, and also has disagreements with rewriting the Rule Book mid game. Wiser fools have come to support their position, even if they are wrong. Everyone else is a lot wronger.
Autism Speaks has discovered they are a branch of fools, Broader Autism Phenotype, and have changed quit a bit in the time I have been watching.
I know the point of discovery well, that moment when it becomes absolutely clear, every one is crazy, the entire universe is completly insane, and you are here. Jung would call it a moment of sanity.
We have all sorts of people going for the money, ASAP claims they used to be Autistic, others claim it is part of their gayness, Teachers unions need more of those high paying students, with no educational accountability, and the drug companies have an education plan that involves pills and TV.
Autism Speaks has stuck with village idiots, and brought in some fools to write copy. Their offending people scores are way down. They have to hire Science and Mechanics, but many of us are more than willing to give it to them for free. Their direction of research has become focused.
Wrong Planet was the first to show that the old ratio of 5 boys to one girl was way off, as WP shows sexual equality. Tony Attwood picked up on it, and Autism Speaks needs no second hand science to see the facts.
My own view of hairless ground apes is often referred to as War Crimes, but they are in luck because I do not care. Getting anything done takes a narrow focus, persistance, and shutting out the world. Autism Speaks has the limited world view, repetive behaviors, and social inabilities to perhaps do something useful.
I cannot offer any more to anyone than what I hold to be the truth, I am doing what I do, not knowing how it will turn out, but doing it with all my being.
It is how nature intended it, when they focus on autism, they become less NT, more autistic, and become alienated from the world at large.
When they brought John Elder Robison into their culture it was in response to protests, they lacked aliens. I am sure he was at first, but now they have come to understand him, how he thinks, and they have changed, John cannot change. Autism is a greater mental space, and it does have some social lacks, which seem to be falling away across cultures.
The Social Dance and need to explain everything to every one was just a cultural thing. It belongs with bowing and tipping your hat.
To kill a quote, "You cannot influance all of the people all of the time, or even some of the people some of the time, stick to influancing those few you can, and the hell with the rest of them." |
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| androbot2084 wrote: | | YOU FIGURED OUT HOW TO MAKE COMMUNISM WORK. |
No I just read up on it and like what I found, I have no idea how to make it work on a large scale. I am good at researching information but don't create it. Besides liking the idea of communism is not exactly something most people find all that cool...I even got made fun of in high school when I first got interested in it as usual I was thinking I should have just kept my opinions to myself. So I am not sure I would consider knowledge about communism and ideas how it could work is very useful.
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| The reason why most communism does not work is because it is based on coercion by violent revolution. What this results in when peoples hearts are not in it is failure because inherently selfish people have no incentive to work for the greater good. You on the other hand teach that revolution should be founded on love and peace. |
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| androbot2084 wrote: | | The reason why most communism does not work is because it is based on coercion by violent revolution. What this results in when peoples hearts are not in it is failure because inherently selfish people have no incentive to work for the greater good. You on the other hand teach that revolution should be founded on love and peace. |
The trouble with that is people who see no reason to work for the greater good...I can imagine a few ways a peaceful revolution could be destroyed. I mean obviously the peaceful side wouldn't be the one with the weapons, so what to do about that? Also I don't think the government would be in support of any revolution whether it's violent or peaceful.
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The last peaceful revolution was during the 1960's. There were of course some random acts of violence but there never was a call for a violent civil war but rather peaceful protests. What resulted was a backlash. Moderate Republicans who held most of the political power were replaced by radical ultra-conservative Republicans who sought to destroy all forms of welfare and taught that war is the solution to all of our international problems.
The fact that there was this backlash meant the powers to be were very threatened and felt that they had to abandon mainstream politics in favor of fringe far right politicians. |
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| Sweetleaf wrote: | | androbot2084 wrote: | | YOU FIGURED OUT HOW TO MAKE COMMUNISM WORK. |
No I just read up on it and like what I found, I have no idea how to make it work on a large scale. I am good at researching information but don't create it. Besides liking the idea of communism is not exactly something most people find all that cool...I even got made fun of in high school when I first got interested in it as usual I was thinking I should have just kept my opinions to myself. So I am not sure I would consider knowledge about communism and ideas how it could work is very useful. |
Communism works very well in the animal world. its only when you add human greed and emotion etc that it fails.
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| LennytheWicked wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | androbot2084 wrote: | | So why do geniuses need to be cured? |
We're not all geniuses, I regard myself as intelligent but not that intelligent. |
Agreed. According to my IQ score I am...but if I'm a genius I fear for humanity. |
Why not let someone else be a genius? Someone with ambition and concern for real problems. Many would love to be a genius. |
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| dalurker wrote: | | LennytheWicked wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | androbot2084 wrote: | | So why do geniuses need to be cured? |
We're not all geniuses, I regard myself as intelligent but not that intelligent. |
Agreed. According to my IQ score I am...but if I'm a genius I fear for humanity. |
Why not let someone else be a genius? Someone with ambition and concern for real problems. Many would love to be a genius. |
Don't be an as*hole. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| I think communism fails because people are forced into it. If it was a voluntary choice there would be no greedy people in the system. |
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