LennytheWicked
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| dalurker wrote: | | Considering that you admittedly don't like others. I seriously wonder why you would exhibit altruistic viewpoints despite that. |
Your first point doesn't make any sense, and I'm ignoring it. You can't "share" an innate ability. You can teach learned ones, but you can't just share extra IQ points. And if you could, and did, then everyone would be at the same average level and nothing would be innovative because no one would think differently.
I exhibit "altruistic" viewpoints because I believe people shouldn't have to suffer because some egomaniacs cheated and stepped on people to get ahead. It's one thing if you make bad decision upon bad decision and never learn from your mistakes, but a lot of people are victims of circumstance. [E.G. cancer, wrong-place-wrong-time, car crash, things like that.] |
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dalurker
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Well all it does is continue the vicious cycle...I mean its not like I honestly think I can really change anything or start a peaceful communist revolution I certainly think it would be cool though  . Also I think humans fighting over resources that are running out and killing each other over it when they could put all those materials and technology to better use and use more efficient and renewable energy as well as possibly put things like industrial hemp to use but I guess it's better to fight to the death till its too late and we're all f***d. I know ha ha ha, more hippie bs...well whatever.
Also not everyone is so corrupt and selfish...and I don't know that it was directed at me but I'm not middle class, and what the hell is a safe location? apparently not the public schools, but I guess that is a separate issue and I don't want to go off topic. |
I think modern people have the judgment to know when to stop being belligerent. I'm not sure what exactly defines middle class, but I was thinking those who generally have a place to live and who aren't starving. Hipsters have decent goals, but advocate weak tactics. When I say a safe location, I'm thinking of areas that aren't war torn and are without lots of violent crime. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:54 am Post subject: |
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| LennytheWicked wrote: |
Your first point doesn't make any sense, and I'm ignoring it. You can't "share" an innate ability. You can teach learned ones, but you can't just share extra IQ points. And if you could, and did, then everyone would be at the same average level and nothing would be innovative because no one would think differently. |
With advancing technology, who knows. There is no proof that such disparity is needed to have innovation. Not all with the same IQs have the same ideas, and differing IQs don't inherently lead to different thoughts. |
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Sweetleaf
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:08 am Post subject: |
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| dalurker wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: |
Well all it does is continue the vicious cycle...I mean its not like I honestly think I can really change anything or start a peaceful communist revolution I certainly think it would be cool though . Also I think humans fighting over resources that are running out and killing each other over it when they could put all those materials and technology to better use and use more efficient and renewable energy as well as possibly put things like industrial hemp to use but I guess it's better to fight to the death till its too late and we're all f***d. I know ha ha ha, more hippie bs...well whatever.
Also not everyone is so corrupt and selfish...and I don't know that it was directed at me but I'm not middle class, and what the hell is a safe location? apparently not the public schools, but I guess that is a separate issue and I don't want to go off topic. |
I think modern people have the judgment to know when to stop being belligerent. I'm not sure what exactly defines middle class, but I was thinking those who generally have a place to live and who aren't starving. Hipsters have decent goals, but advocate weak tactics. When I say a safe location, I'm thinking of areas that aren't war torn and are without lots of violent crime. |
Well I am in an odd situation actually...I personally have no money or job to get income from, my mom has a job and a house but she's barely above the income level one would need to get on food stamps. I technically live at her house but I am not helping with bills or anything and she is not giving supplying me with any sort of income. Then of course my dad is currently homeless and stays at friends houses and such. But yeah most of my childhood I got to eat because of food stamps since my mom wasn't working and my dads jobs couldn't quite bring in enough money to feed me and my siblings its not untill recently my mom started doing better financially but it does not really help me I suppose I am happy for her though.
Honestly I can't stay at her house though...so unless I can move in with a friend or family member...I shall have to figure out where to put my vinyls, vinyl player, cd's and all the crap I cant fit into a bag or two. Then I guess I'll see where my walk takes me.
Also I suppose I see your point there...but I don't see why being in a safer location is a reason to just ignore the issues. I mean sure its not so bad when it is far away, but the way things are going it wont be long before the U.S is that way. I mean unless drastic changes are made quickly its likely to collapse, at least that is my theory I could be wrong but it certainly does not look like things are improving.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:09 am Post subject: |
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| dalurker wrote: | | LennytheWicked wrote: |
Your first point doesn't make any sense, and I'm ignoring it. You can't "share" an innate ability. You can teach learned ones, but you can't just share extra IQ points. And if you could, and did, then everyone would be at the same average level and nothing would be innovative because no one would think differently. |
With advancing technology, who knows. There is no proof that such disparity is needed to have innovation. Not all with the same IQs have the same ideas, and differing IQs don't inherently lead to different thoughts. |
There isn't really a way for everyone to have the same IQ.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:36 am Post subject: |
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| Sweetleaf wrote: |
Also I suppose I see your point there...but I don't see why being in a safer location is a reason to just ignore the issues. I mean sure its not so bad when it is far away, but the way things are going it wont be long before the U.S is that way. I mean unless drastic changes are made quickly its likely to collapse, at least that is my theory I could be wrong but it certainly does not look like things are improving. |
I've thought that many get soft when not having to worry of safety, and get reluctant to do harsh things to bring change. I doubt they'd let things collapse here in a chaotic way, as they know that could increase the chances of rebellion. I don't think the powers that be could keep control internationally if they lose control in the U.S. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:37 am Post subject: |
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| Sweetleaf wrote: | | dalurker wrote: | | LennytheWicked wrote: |
Your first point doesn't make any sense, and I'm ignoring it. You can't "share" an innate ability. You can teach learned ones, but you can't just share extra IQ points. And if you could, and did, then everyone would be at the same average level and nothing would be innovative because no one would think differently. |
With advancing technology, who knows. There is no proof that such disparity is needed to have innovation. Not all with the same IQs have the same ideas, and differing IQs don't inherently lead to different thoughts. |
There isn't really a way for everyone to have the same IQ. |
I wonder if someday they could do something like that. |
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| dalurker wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | dalurker wrote: | | LennytheWicked wrote: |
Your first point doesn't make any sense, and I'm ignoring it. You can't "share" an innate ability. You can teach learned ones, but you can't just share extra IQ points. And if you could, and did, then everyone would be at the same average level and nothing would be innovative because no one would think differently. |
With advancing technology, who knows. There is no proof that such disparity is needed to have innovation. Not all with the same IQs have the same ideas, and differing IQs don't inherently lead to different thoughts. |
There isn't really a way for everyone to have the same IQ. |
I wonder if someday they could do something like that. |
I hope not that would be weird.
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| Sweetleaf wrote: | | dalurker wrote: |
I wonder if someday they could do something like that. |
I hope not that would be weird. |
Agreed. And again, Dalurker, people have different IQs because their ways of processing thoughts are different; they don't process thoughts differently because of their IQs. |
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dalurker
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| LennytheWicked wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | dalurker wrote: |
I wonder if someday they could do something like that. |
I hope not that would be weird. |
Agreed. And again, Dalurker, people have different IQs because their ways of processing thoughts are different; they don't process thoughts differently because of their IQs. |
IQ doesn't characterize difference in thought processing. It measures something. It measures speed, memory, problem solving, and things like that. Those aren't just neutral differences. It measures ability to do cognitive tasks. |
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OliveOilMom
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:51 am Post subject: |
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See?
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Sweetleaf
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Yes  , I think I see.
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LennytheWicked
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Sweetleaf wrote: |
Yes , I think I see. |
 I don't. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| LennytheWicked wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: |
Yes , I think I see. |
I don't. |
go back a few pages...and you might.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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y "See?" was about how people take hating Autism Speaks so personally.
I'm a parent. When I had my kids, I had no clue I had any type of autism or that there was any other type of it that didn't mess your child up for life. I imagine that most people are still that way. I didn't know different until I was told about AS and dx'd with it.
Oh. I get it now.
But most do not. And if I had a severely autistic child, one that was very low functioning, I would give anything to cure him. If a parent wouldn't care enough to want to help that child, then they don't deserve to be a parent!
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