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lostgirl1986
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slave wrote:
lostgirl1986 wrote:
-Sometimes I wonder if life is one big dream and you wake up and you're actually someone else with a different life.
-Sometimes I wonder if we all see colours differently than everybody else.
-Sometimes I wonder if after we die we go on to a different life on a different planet. The life we're living now is only our first life basically. Maybe it's like a computer game and this is just level one and after we die we go on to level 2 and it gets harder.
-Or maybe we're just one big science experiment to a bunch of giants somewhere in our universe almost like The Truman Show except the whole world is a reality show for someone else in the universe


Keep going! I love you ideas! Smile


I decided for the computer game one, I'm going to make my own religion and turn it into a cult with my friend. We're on level 1 right now and after we die we go to level 2. A glitch might happen in your life and you'll get "frozen" between level 1 and level 2 and you'll stay that way forever being able to see everything but not being able to move a muscle or talk. That could be "hell." I'm going to make my own bible and everything. Twisted Evil Just kidding.....maybe....... Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CanisMajor wrote:
lostgirl1986 wrote:
-Sometimes I wonder if we all see colours differently than everybody else.


We do. Very Happy Well, not necessarily from everybody else, but between two individuals they may be perceiving the same color differently in their head. Assuming neither person has any observable difference detectable on an objective test (such as the Ishihara Colorblind Test), there could still be differences in perception that we wouldn't be able to tell unless we were able to see from another person's brain/eyes. Perhaps one person's red-sensitive cone cells (in their eyes) are stronger than the other person's. They might see all colors shifted slightly to the red side of the visible spectrum (the first person might see a hue in-between yellow and green as more yellow, but would still call it yellow-green since their perception of yellow is actually slightly orange, if compared to the second person's point of view.)




That's pretty interesting. I know that there are colour blind people but I didn't realize what you just mentioned but it makes sense.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I developed depersonalization and derealization after smoking a lot of strong marijuana. I've had a lot of the thoughts about reality. It's pretty crazy. I don't have schizophrenia for sure but I think people with Asperger's can have similar symptoms. When my depersonalization and derealization was really bad I thought I lived in a holographic universe or matrix and started losing it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edgewaters wrote:
DoniiMann wrote:
What colour is the ink in it? The EXACT tint of the exact shade of the exact hue? What is every atom and molecule in the biro?

Impossible to know, impractical to obsess over.

It's 12 cm long, blue ink, red casing. A Bic. That'll do.

I wonder what colour the ink is without human brain impulses or a yellow sun.


Colour is a property of light, so, it's not really that the ink is blue at all. It's the light that reflects off it that has the colour. It only has the potential to reflect light that's in the wavelength of blue, but it has no colour itself. In other words, everything except light is perfectly black (no colour).


I was thinking about this the other day. I wish I had the physics background. I'm very good with math but I know nothing about physics.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think depersonalization and derealization made my aspergers much worse. It's like I didn't have it before I got sick.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

edgewaters wrote:
DoniiMann wrote:
What colour is the ink in it? The EXACT tint of the exact shade of the exact hue? What is every atom and molecule in the biro?
Impossible to know, impractical to obsess over.
It's 12 cm long, blue ink, red casing. A Bic. That'll do.
I wonder what colour the ink is without human brain impulses or a yellow sun.

Colour is a property of light, so, it's not really that the ink is blue at all. It's the light that reflects off it that has the colour. It only has the potential to reflect light that's in the wavelength of blue, but it has no colour itself. In other words, everything except light is perfectly black (no colour).

If a tree falls in an unlit forrest, is it really perfectly black? Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am of the belief that there is no perceivable ultimate reality. Our brains all have biases and sensory limitations but the vast majority of us believe that our reality is correct. What really happens outside our minds in the environment is likely very near a perfect average of all of our perceived experiences combined.
Reality is relative.
As for theories of what all this is.. I want to start firstly by saying I do not believe anything. I do not know anything. Perhaps this is the line between psychosis and myself?
I think purely in "what if" statements.
What if.. our universe was a giant computer.
There is a "binary" layer with opposite values. Perhaps that is spin or some kind of value in the quantum state.
There is quantum mechanics, acting as a probability layer to the universe. This regulates what is probable and not (everything is possible, some things are just more probable than others.) Perhaps, like Schrodinger's cat, all of the potential possibilities actually occur simultaneously and instantly all of the lesser probable universes vaporize as they are not seen??
There is the environment layer which is without mind or observations, but observing minds are important and build the reality. Because the act of seeing and being seen is the only way to progress time. And time is change so observation creates reality.

Or maybe... The entire conceivable universe is in the atom of a rock somewhere. Countless universes in every atom creating a massive multiverse within itself. If you go small enough, things begin to get larger... If you go large enough, things begin to get smaller... Like a spherical geometric pattern of reality.
So there is quantum level and macroscopic level. Go smaller than quantum level and things become macroscopic. Go larger than macroscopic and things become quantum but it's coiled into itself in a loop of feedback.
Make sense?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Parallel universes really exist so it is not just schizophrenic delusion.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahaha I'm kind of trying to mess with ridiculous extremes of music to see if I can like send direct impulses to the brain or something. I don't really ascribe to whether it'd be something real or some kind of drug effect though

also sometimes I feel like my synesthesia is some kind of sensory input coming in from another dimension but I mostly just think it's really strong. I'm interested though in what exactly music is doing to the brain
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reality is in the eye of the beholder. Whatever one perceives as "reality", is reality. One person sees it one way and another sees it completely different. I don't believe in "alternate" views of reality. What would you gauge as "actual" reality if there was an alternate view? The planet has billions of unique human brains and each one has a different view on reality. Since no two humans are identical, than no two perceptions on reality are identical. Reality is in the eye of the beholder. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish reality were more perfect. It's kind of selfish to say that, but I don't like suffering and I don't exactly know how the world will acheive peace, but I feel that once peace is truly acheived than the meaning of life will be revealed to us.
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