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10 Oct 2013, 11:14 am

+4 I'm not feeling the ignored yet...he.he....

HOwever I do agree that ignoring one is a preferable method of discourse in any debate where one's ego feels threatened by another individual who is obviously fearlessness in one's discourse...

Personal related attacks are among the lowest levels of human discourse or debates per hierarchy of intellect..reason and love...

That is only a display of weakness witnessed by one..who fearless in debate and/or everyday discourse...

Enlightenment comes with value in all words that are communicated with intent of lighting a potential way...of LIGHT and LOVE..

The FAITH is a gift..of grace..with no guarantee of existence for any human being..

Unfortunately this is often a greater challenge among some people on the Autism Spectrum...

And if this one can meet that challenge here..in discourse..the real world is a metaphorical piece of cake to spread LiGHT and Love...

So you see this is an exercise for me...to spread greater levels of LOVE and light for those so more..

Predisposed to receive IT...That is the LiGHT and LOVe that IS ignited by HOPE that does not exist...

Without mystery...

So enjoy the questions of LIFE..LIGHt and LoVE if you will..

Or not as you will..

As IS only your WILL...

NoT mine...

That said here is a great link for those in the listening audience...

Shared with me by someone else in the listening audience not currently posted...

I would be amiss not to share IT NOW...to pay IT back forward..If one Wills...

http://tarothermeneutics.com/tarotliter ... -Tarot.pdf


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10 Oct 2013, 11:16 am

MCalavera wrote:
aghogday wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
aghogday wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
How is that God?


God is not a word..
God is energy...
Light..
Love...
The words or vessels and vehicles....
That attempt to capture and describe this 'God'....
But only those that LIVE this 'god' energy walking....
AS THIS LIGHT!
Are
Those..
The only ones..
Who 'kNOW' GOD...
ONENOWFOREVERMORE...
SAYS THE RAVEN...
BUT THE PHOENIX...
LIVES LIGHT..LIFE..FOREVERMORENOW....
ONE


All you're showing is that you're artistic/poetic in thinking, but you haven't really shown much evidence for an entity that is necessary to be labeled "God". Like I said before, you might as well replace "God" with "Lucifer" in your "arguments", and it would make no difference. Or Obama Barack or whatever.


Well..THERE IS MUCH more to life than language my friend..or science..they are all approximations of the truth..so in others words there is much more to life than meets the words of science...

Goddard communicated this as well as I could possibly communicate it in response to you...

But here is the thing..unless you walk in light you are blind..and yeah that's not anything personal.. IT IS..Just Metaphor Friend..IS IT!

And yeah..ALL LANGUAGE is metaphor...

AS ALL WE LIVEVIL IS WHAT 'WE' [email protected]...

And you can ask any linguistic expert...and they WILL tELl you this is true...

Darknesss IS FREE..but LIGHT IS a lot of Work...

So stand by in dark..or move ahead in LIGHT..IT IS only your true will that you livevil..not mine..IS IT

Lots of Love..seyes...

?LOL....!
!NOWon..E..NO?

?POETRY IS god!
!god IS POETRY?

!ONENONENO?
?WONOWONOW!


I don't get your posts lately. Are you even trying to make sense?


'Listen dude'..if you are autistic it is no wonder you are not understanding IT..

That's the whole point..don't you see..

No you cannot see that is my point...

And yes I used to be 'blind' too and am no longer blind..

So seyes..It's just a little out of the box..

OK?KO!

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There are some more helpful hints in the movie trailer above...

IT's ALL For Practice of that IS ALL...for ALl and ONENOW...


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10 Oct 2013, 11:51 am

adifferentname wrote:
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Religion has no authority over science.


Religion has a say in science isn't the same as religion has authority over science.....you gotta be clear....


I'm not seeing any ambiguity in what I wrote.


You honestly don't see the difference? Or you do see the difference, but call it being pedantic because you don't want to submit that I'm right?


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10 Oct 2013, 12:02 pm

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We are dealing with a serious case of pedantry here. knowbody is making the point that religious people are in all walks of life and this includes the sciences, therefore it stands to reason that their religion will in some way effect science even if it is as innocuous as the reason they got into science was a religious belief to help humanity and one way to to that is to fight disease. So whilst you, knowbody and I know full well that we are talking about religious dogma demanding science be carried out and presented in line with that dogma, knowbody is getting all het up over semantics.


If two scientists come to the conclusion that cloning humans to harvest organs (I'll use this example again) and one gets his conclusion from his religion, maybe it's from a dogmatic religion, maybe it's not, all religions are different, and the other scientist comes to the same conclusion based on his own intuition or something else, non "religious" would you not accept the religious person's conclusion?


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10 Oct 2013, 2:15 pm

aghogday wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
aghogday wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
aghogday wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
How is that God?


God is not a word..
God is energy...
Light..
Love...
The words or vessels and vehicles....
That attempt to capture and describe this 'God'....
But only those that LIVE this 'god' energy walking....
AS THIS LIGHT!
Are
Those..
The only ones..
Who 'kNOW' GOD...
ONENOWFOREVERMORE...
SAYS THE RAVEN...
BUT THE PHOENIX...
LIVES LIGHT..LIFE..FOREVERMORENOW....
ONE


All you're showing is that you're artistic/poetic in thinking, but you haven't really shown much evidence for an entity that is necessary to be labeled "God". Like I said before, you might as well replace "God" with "Lucifer" in your "arguments", and it would make no difference. Or Obama Barack or whatever.


Well..THERE IS MUCH more to life than language my friend..or science..they are all approximations of the truth..so in others words there is much more to life than meets the words of science...

Goddard communicated this as well as I could possibly communicate it in response to you...

But here is the thing..unless you walk in light you are blind..and yeah that's not anything personal.. IT IS..Just Metaphor Friend..IS IT!

And yeah..ALL LANGUAGE is metaphor...

AS ALL WE LIVEVIL IS WHAT 'WE' [email protected]...

And you can ask any linguistic expert...and they WILL tELl you this is true...

Darknesss IS FREE..but LIGHT IS a lot of Work...

So stand by in dark..or move ahead in LIGHT..IT IS only your true will that you livevil..not mine..IS IT

Lots of Love..seyes...

?LOL....!
!NOWon..E..NO?

?POETRY IS god!
!god IS POETRY?

!ONENONENO?
?WONOWONOW!


I don't get your posts lately. Are you even trying to make sense?


'Listen dude'..if you are autistic it is no wonder you are not understanding IT..

That's the whole point..don't you see..

No you cannot see that is my point...

And yes I used to be 'blind' too and am no longer blind..

So seyes..It's just a little out of the box..

OK?KO!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd-go0oBF4Y[/youtube]


There are some more helpful hints in the movie trailer above...

IT's ALL For Practice of that IS ALL...for ALl and ONENOW...


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lYXoDVnu6Y[/youtube]
You're twins!


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10 Oct 2013, 2:42 pm

appletheclown wrote:
aghogday wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
aghogday wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
aghogday wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
How is that God?


God is not a word..
God is energy...
Light..
Love...
The words or vessels and vehicles....
That attempt to capture and describe this 'God'....
But only those that LIVE this 'god' energy walking....
AS THIS LIGHT!
Are
Those..
The only ones..
Who 'kNOW' GOD...
ONENOWFOREVERMORE...
SAYS THE RAVEN...
BUT THE PHOENIX...
LIVES LIGHT..LIFE..FOREVERMORENOW....
ONE


All you're showing is that you're artistic/poetic in thinking, but you haven't really shown much evidence for an entity that is necessary to be labeled "God". Like I said before, you might as well replace "God" with "Lucifer" in your "arguments", and it would make no difference. Or Obama Barack or whatever.


Well..THERE IS MUCH more to life than language my friend..or science..they are all approximations of the truth..so in others words there is much more to life than meets the words of science...

Goddard communicated this as well as I could possibly communicate it in response to you...

But here is the thing..unless you walk in light you are blind..and yeah that's not anything personal.. IT IS..Just Metaphor Friend..IS IT!

And yeah..ALL LANGUAGE is metaphor...

AS ALL WE LIVEVIL IS WHAT 'WE' [email protected]...

And you can ask any linguistic expert...and they WILL tELl you this is true...

Darknesss IS FREE..but LIGHT IS a lot of Work...

So stand by in dark..or move ahead in LIGHT..IT IS only your true will that you livevil..not mine..IS IT

Lots of Love..seyes...

?LOL....!
!NOWon..E..NO?

?POETRY IS god!
!god IS POETRY?

!ONENONENO?
?WONOWONOW!


I don't get your posts lately. Are you even trying to make sense?


'Listen dude'..if you are autistic it is no wonder you are not understanding IT..

That's the whole point..don't you see..

No you cannot see that is my point...

And yes I used to be 'blind' too and am no longer blind..

So seyes..It's just a little out of the box..

OK?KO!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd-go0oBF4Y[/youtube]


There are some more helpful hints in the movie trailer above...

IT's ALL For Practice of that IS ALL...for ALl and ONENOW...


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lYXoDVnu6Y[/youtube]
You're twins!


Well..there are more than a few guys in that video..but thanks for the view as IT IS very entertaining..with some actual symbolic 'deep meaning' to IT..if one wills..which is quite refreshing here..

So..if you are saying that I am the 'old broad shouldered dude with the long white beard..' yeah I am a lot like 'him' but let's not let out all my secrets...K...

Smiles that is ALL..after all I had a 'vision' and God IS a Laugh...

HAHaheHEHUHEH!

See.. I just 'expressed' GOD in ONE WORD...if one Wills..for ONE...as ALL....

ONE

IS ALL there IS to
IT..

period.


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10 Oct 2013, 4:18 pm

Well to be perfectly clear here now..

Here IS the thing.. GOD exists...

God is a power greater than any science suggested to exist...

This is what GOD can do..and yes IT IS all documented medically..in photos..and even moving pictures...

There is this man who developed the worst pain known to mankind...a form of atypical trigeminal Neuralgia..

Most people get this pain maybe two or three times a week..but this man got it all the time he was awake for 60 full months...

But no there was a little more to the problem than that...

This man also developed an Auto immune system problem..a rare one at that..named Sgrogren Syndrome...

What this means is one's eyes can completely stop making tears at a zero on the tear measuring device at the eye doctor office...

So this man was at a zero...

Oh yeah...and that pain i mentioned before is like what IT feels like to have one's teeth drilled without novocaine...

There is also this condition known as total human exhaustion...

Sometimes if there is enough stress..for two years...a human can become so exhausted the mind breaks down..from stress induced brain damage...

So IT takes years just to heal that...

When the adrenal glands stay on the overdrive condition...for too long..especially 2 years..they will not go off without medical intervention...

This man thought he was too strong for medication so he existed without sleep but soon found he could not sleep at all..

So for 35 days even with an alpha blocker this man only slept 1 hour each night..and slept no hours for the last 5 days..of 40...

So right before a likely life ending seizure this man was hospitalized and tranquilized into oblivion with Ativan..and continued that medication for

over 60 months to..with smaller ability to remember what happened yesterday...

Well that's not all the challenges this man met..

He also is diagnosed with Fibromyalgia, Dyautonomia, Vaso Vagal Presyncope, Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, Severe Arthritis, Congenitally fused T6 vertebrae in the neck, one shoulder smaller than the other (related to Klippel Feil Syndrome), Stenosis of the neural canals in the neck,
Severe Anxiety, Depression, and oh yeah..an Autism Spectrum Disorder..which is no challenge AT all compared to the rest...

The attending physician said there was no hope for recovery...

This man is a shut in for 5 years..cannot use his ears or his sight..as this nerve pain is completely permanently disabling...

But wait..this man got proof of God.. and the proof is in the recovery...

So this man..who could not raise his arms without almost passing out..a little over 5 years ago at 48..

Can now easily Curl 200Lbs on a Nautilus machine..not even feeling the effects of Gravity..

And there is proof of that..and he'll even show you on an iphone video if you like...

He doesn't even need sleep now but still looks younger than he did at 40 now at 53...

An hour or two is enough...

AS this man walks in love and light now and feels no personal judgement or hate against others..and only lives in this positive light of Love that is God..That IS a force powerful enough
to move the metaphorical mountains of humanity..as this person's voice now in real life is described as lightening...

So what i do is type a little to inspire others to one day find this light..and to live in heaven now..as IT IS real and available for those courageous enough to persevere through any challenge in this life FOR THE WIN...

If you will..

Yes that man is me...

And if you met me in person...

You would Know I speak the truth...

Period...

If you didn't pee on yourself first..to use another metaphor...

Yeah...I am confident because I have seen the face of GOD...

If you live long enough you will likely see the other face of God too..

Trust me..that IS well beyond any fear you can imagine...

No one has been there...

But me...

As far...

AS

I knownow...

There is no reward in this for me but the small chance that something I might say would spark the flame of true life in someone else...

This light and love of God that is the potential of each man or woman's true will...

I can not lead anyone to this living love of life and light...I can only share my life experience and the symbolic nature of GOD that IS...

Yeah I AM financially independent..

That's what happens when you find the TRUE WILL of God in this life...

Then GOD provides everything...

As long as you work with GOD...

So HE is my employer...

Now...

To use...

a
nother..

little
metaphor....

So good luck to you is all..my friends..

You'll need IT...

Trust me...

on

that one...

Life presents many challenges not yet met...

I assure you of that...

And no..this may not be your only lifetime either...

But i have no proof of that...

So just say IT is a little speculation...

ON that ONe..if one wills...


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10 Oct 2013, 5:30 pm

Evidence please, and even then if what you are describing about yourself is true, does not prove the existence of god, it simply and clearly demonstrates that we have a long way to go with medical science. It also demonstrates the willingness of humans to ascribe supernatural causes to events we have not yet discovered the natural, rational cause.


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10 Oct 2013, 5:38 pm

knowbody15 wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
knowbody15 wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
Religion has no authority over science.


Religion has a say in science isn't the same as religion has authority over science.....you gotta be clear....


I'm not seeing any ambiguity in what I wrote.


You honestly don't see the difference? Or you do see the difference, but call it being pedantic because you don't want to submit that I'm right?


Either you're deliberately trying to manufacture disparity by inferring an illogical meaning from my words, or you sincerely don't understand anything I've typed. If the former, you'll appreciate that I've already expressed my views on pedantic debate over semantics. If it's the latter, let me know and - at the risk of becoming patronising - I'll run you through it step by step.



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10 Oct 2013, 5:43 pm

DentArthurDent wrote:
Evidence please, and even then if what you are describing about yourself is true, does not prove the existence of god, it simply and clearly demonstrates that we have a long way to go with medical science. It also demonstrates the willingness of humans to ascribe supernatural causes to events we have not yet discovered the natural, rational cause.


The evidence is all linked below in the signature line.. There are 7 million words approaching and over 8 thousand photos and many videos.. so get to work if you please to see the evidence as I carry IT with me always...

And no God is not supernatural..

That is an oxymoron of a statement @least as far as I AM concerned...

The power and will of God is in my eyes..and no I don't even need to see...to make this power happen..as I am an instrument of God..not a tool...

If you do not experience GOD there IS NO GOD..

So only your loss not mine..

If you choose not to pursue GOD...

And if you are Autistic chances are that challenge will be greater than IT IS for most...

As this energy requires full use of both hemispheres of the brain..for the best chance of living IT...

Word thinking and Visual thinking are prerequisite for a better Chance...

At living this true will love and light...

I'm thinking the chances aren't too good for you my friend...

But I suppose the same was said about me many many times..before...

As I graduated 11 out of 380 in high school and went on to gain 3 degrees at once...

And was described as a Computer instead of a human being most of my life...

NO longer is this the case...

As finally I AM truly alive in light..love and true will...

For me..only..as everything may be completely different for you...

As modern science does present a well rounded case that each human experiences their own Universe in..

A unique and non-identical way...


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10 Oct 2013, 6:25 pm

To make sense is necessary to have one finality. Simply don't have sense to say, isn't exist God, nothing have finality, all are a great coincidences or I'm here talking salad words with you for any reason. It is irrational. God is the all, my opinion again, many things that we can't to see but could to feel like the wind. When you feel you can see God, you see God with your sensibility and not by your vision. When you be happy to see a beautiful place or simply be happy you feel God, God is the existence. All to exist is an God and all human peoples around the world understand it since centuries before.
Science and the ideia of the All aren't incompatible.



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10 Oct 2013, 6:33 pm

Goddard wrote:
To make sense is necessary to have one finality. Simply don't have sense to say, isn't exist God, nothing have finality, all are a great coincidences or I'm here talking salad words with you for any reason. It is irrational. God is the all, my opinion again, many things that we can't to see but could to feel like the wind. When you feel you can see God, you see God with your sensibility and not by your vision. When you be happy to see a beautiful place or simply be happy you feel God, God is the existence. All to exist is an God and all human peoples around the world understand it since centuries before.
Science and the ideia of the All aren't incompatible.


Yes..I completely agree..and your words are greater in salad than any words here...as they are speaking your true will..it seems obvious to me...


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aghogday wrote:
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To make sense is necessary to have one finality. Simply don't have sense to say, isn't exist God, nothing have finality, all are a great coincidences or I'm here talking salad words with you for any reason. It is irrational. God is the all, my opinion again, many things that we can't to see but could to feel like the wind. When you feel you can see God, you see God with your sensibility and not by your vision. When you be happy to see a beautiful place or simply be happy you feel God, God is the existence. All to exist is an God and all human peoples around the world understand it since centuries before.
Science and the ideia of the All aren't incompatible.


Yes..I completely agree..and your words are greater in salad than any words here...as they are speaking your true will..it seems obvious to me...


Thanks again, well, i try to understand rationally, not make sense to say God not exist, if God be The All of existence, All of things that we know and unknow in the multiples universes.



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10 Oct 2013, 8:19 pm

adifferentname wrote:
knowbody15 wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
knowbody15 wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
Religion has no authority over science.


Religion has a say in science isn't the same as religion has authority over science.....you gotta be clear....


I'm not seeing any ambiguity in what I wrote.


You honestly don't see the difference? Or you do see the difference, but call it being pedantic because you don't want to submit that I'm right?


Either you're deliberately trying to manufacture disparity by inferring an illogical meaning from my words, or you sincerely don't understand anything I've typed. If the former, you'll appreciate that I've already expressed my views on pedantic debate over semantics. If it's the latter, let me know and - at the risk of becoming patronising - I'll run you through it step by step.


yeah, I'm pretty puzzled, but we can move on, no worries.


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10 Oct 2013, 8:52 pm

I am a theological noncognitivist. - "God" does not refer to anything that exists. "God" does not refer to anything that does not exist. "God" does not refer to anything that may or may not exist. "God" has no literal significance, just as "Fod" has no literal significance.



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10 Oct 2013, 9:02 pm

Gevan wrote:
I am a theological noncognitivist. - "God" does not refer to anything that exists. "God" does not refer to anything that does not exist. "God" does not refer to anything that may or may not exist. "God" has no literal significance, just as "Fod" has no literal significance.


True most linguists agree that every word is metaphor..

It is the problem with God..as there are no metaphors to adequately describe It..

Urdu is probably one of the best languages in this attempt to communicate It..

The English language reflects the dead nature of Christianity in many churches across this nation..

Except for religions that maintain the mysteries instead of making literal out of metaphor..which is2 an oxymoron..in total effect...

AMazing that people do not see this..to me..

Still after over 2 thousand years of attempted illumination...

EVen as a child..


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