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16 Oct 2013, 2:04 am

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Dont' you get IT..that means evidence for GOD..

Why the f*** would anyone believe that..that Which is GOD

IS ANYTHING BUT NATURL


So why then do you insist on calling nature, god. God in most peoples mind is Above nature, it is separate from nature. Nature is just what it is, there is no sentient guiding force, it is an interdependent process. Why confuse the issue.

And with regards to your "superhuman" status and "ballerina" like agility I have watched the "superhuman" briskly walking through Walmart, and then stop, panting like a pack a day smoker. You claim to have proof of your medical miracle any chance of providing it.


Well as clearly stated god is not above nature..in my mind..as far as I see those who think differently are not correct in their thoughts..

And thanks for watching the funny video I provided..if you looked at the details of the youtube video in the description of the video you would have seen that the panting routine and talk of beer was just a joke...

I routinely cover 7 to 8 miles in one day in several stores..with my wife...who yes..really does love to shop...

And yeah I have a nike watch that tracks it with gPS and have already recorded the 50plus miles this month and photographed it on my blog flickr feed...under my internet pen name katie mia frederick...

And yes I at 53 do lift more weights than marines at age 23 at my military base...

You can call the attendant and you will find first hand witness accounts...

Just ask them about the ex athletic director that lifts all the weights..if you do not believe the picture..

I am financially independent...

Tell me where you live and i will show you all the medical records and first hand evidence of everything I do..

I am not about to release actual medical records on a public forum..I said the information was documented on my blog..and it has been well documented on this website well before I was completely healed and better than ever before by this higher power that i call God..that is in me..not some fairy tale or myth....

But I tell you what I will do..I'll show you a before and after picture of me when I was sick before I could even post on this website three years ago...as compared to a picture taken today...

It is my Government retiree ID card...and will have my real last name hidden as I do not use my real last name on the internet...

My first name is Frederick and middle name is Arthur...

The two pictures will be on my flickr feed no later than tomorrow afternoon....

And if you want to know a recent account of my extreme agility in walking in reverse..you can call the night security guard at the Cordova Mall in Pensacola and just ask him about the guy with the mustache that walks real fast in reverse...

No one forgets me...after the first time they see me do this...and most people do not believe I can do what I do..by just looking at me...

But obviously if you saw the picture of me with no shirt on in the the blog..I am as healthy as a horse.. in metaphor..

YOu don't get arms like that..broad shoulders...visible muscles in the abdomen..and chest..just by pecking away on a keyboard..my friend..

Let's see what your faith in science does for you..

I didn't think so..huh?

What challenges has your faith in science allowed you to overcome in life?'

I didn't think so..huh?

Actions and pictures speak louder than words...

Words are kool..only if they mean something in the real world...

And I can easily prove everything I do in the over 10K photos on flickr just in the last 6 weeks since I have recovered...

I am only just beginning to explore my potential...

Where is your faith in science taking you my friend,...

I didn't think so..huh?

If am incorrect let's see what IT does for you..what advantage IT gives you...

As my higher power has brought me every imaginable...gift in this life I could possibly imagine and so much more...

And yeah...ALL I'm saying is one day you might get some of the same gifts I have...

If you simply believe in what you think is likely impossible today..as you seem to live in a box..called science..rather than out of the box..that is TRULY life and this thing I call God..as simply being love and light..IS ALL...

And yes I believe that many of the things I do will be measured by science in the future..My god is the god of mathematics and music..and so much more..but man is only a flea in comparison to this god I know that is a dog in comparison...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HViabkXwYjw[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPkyPdubqDs[/youtube]

And yeah..NIke is a spokes company for my GOD...

Ever hear of Aleister..Crowley he is also an extreme out of the box..and extremely intelligent individual that found a formula for GOD..

Everyone called him crazy too..and wicked and all that 'GOoD' stuff..but he is actually one of the most influential person's of the 20th century...simply by sharing the insights about this gOD I am talking about with others...

Influencing people like the Beatles and STing...the real prophets of the 20th century and beyond....

When you live the life of retired leisure like I do..there is plenty of time to explore these alternative sources of knowledge..of things you will never learn in school my friend...

I cannot possibly fault you for a lack of knowledge in these areas...as there is no way I would have had time for this when I was in the rat race of what is required when you are part of the working world system....

I haven't seen a financial bill I could not pay in full per credit cards or whatever in the same month ..for over a decade now...and that was when I was only 43...how many people do you think have even accomplished that...and saved several hundred thousand dollars..just by working for the government...particularly with the first close to 2 decades working at a government Bowling Center...

Not many..my friend..if any....

And no I am not going to release my financial records on a public forum but I will be more than happy to do it with anyone in person..as I already routinely do that now..when asked for evidence...as I don't mind sharing the truth....


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16 Oct 2013, 2:46 am

Even when dropping the fractured, stylised crazy speak, your posts still lack logic or even something resembling a clear narrative, aghogday. Even if I accept that you believe everything you say, you have literally provided nothing remotely resembling a cogent point for anything, let alone evidence to support your claim that you have intimate knowledge of a deity upon whom you have founded a new religion.

The entire crux of your most recent post appears to be as follows:

"I'm awesome because I've done some stuff and that stuff means that I can run roughshod all over any conflicting view because my belief in my personal god is more relevant than anything anyone else has to say." You even refer to yourself as a "financial genius", seemingly citing this as a reason that your opinions are infallible, or at the very least carry have more authority than DentArthurDent whom you quoted.

Rather than providing us with valid reasons to support your views, your chosen approach has been to self-promote, while both mocking and dismissing DentArthurDent:

aghogday wrote:
And if you want to know a recent account of my extreme agility in walking in reverse..you can call the night security guard at the Cordova Mall in Pensacola and just ask him about the guy with the mustache that walks real fast in reverse...

No one forgets me...after the first time they see me do this...and most people do not believe I can do what I do..by just looking at me...

But obviously if you saw the picture of me with no shirt on in the the blog..I am as healthy as a horse.. in metaphor..

YOu don't get arms like that..broad shoulders...visible muscles in the abdomen..and chest..just by pecking away on a keyboard..my friend..


"I'm awesome, and you can ask some guy about how awesome I am and you can ask other people who will tell you how awesome I am and how I'm an amazing physical specimen and stuff but you're just a puny geek who does nothing but 'peck' on a keyboard."

Inevitably then, I return to my stance of ignoring your posts. I find neither nonsensical rambling nor the self-aggrandising pomp to be worthy of my attention.



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16 Oct 2013, 2:58 am

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Even when dropping the fractured, stylised crazy speak, your posts still lack logic or even something resembling a clear narrative, aghogday. Even if I accept that you believe everything you say, you have literally provided nothing remotely resembling a cogent point for anything, let alone evidence to support your claim that you have intimate knowledge of a deity upon whom you have founded a new religion.

The entire crux of your most recent post appears to be as follows:

"I'm awesome because I've done some stuff and that stuff means that I can run roughshod all over any conflicting view because my belief in my personal god is more relevant than anything anyone else has to say." You even refer to yourself as a "financial genius", seemingly citing this as a reason that your opinions are infallible, or at the very least carry have more authority than DentArthurDent whom you quoted.

Rather than providing us with valid reasons to support your views, your chosen approach has been to self-promote, while both mocking and dismissing DentArthurDent:

aghogday wrote:
And if you want to know a recent account of my extreme agility in walking in reverse..you can call the night security guard at the Cordova Mall in Pensacola and just ask him about the guy with the mustache that walks real fast in reverse...

No one forgets me...after the first time they see me do this...and most people do not believe I can do what I do..by just looking at me...

But obviously if you saw the picture of me with no shirt on in the the blog..I am as healthy as a horse.. in metaphor..

YOu don't get arms like that..broad shoulders...visible muscles in the abdomen..and chest..just by pecking away on a keyboard..my friend..


"I'm awesome, and you can ask some guy about how awesome I am and you can ask other people who will tell you how awesome I am and how I'm an amazing physical specimen and stuff but you're just a puny geek who does nothing but 'peck' on a keyboard."

Inevitably then, I return to my stance of ignoring your posts. I find neither nonsensical rambling nor the self-aggrandising pomp to be worthy of my attention.


Well I suppose personal attacks make you a big man huh?

Well no that is not how IT works in the real world..

Hide behind your words my friend..that is fine...

But before you start spouting off words of incorrectness..please read my words a little more carefully...

I have clearly stated several times that these are my own opinions and not something anyone else has to read or agree with..

You are no one to me...I am speaking to the much larger reading audience here..including some people who have the condition of alexithymia..who are close to suicide who may be in the listening... audience..

For some of those people inspiration of real life incidences where people overcome obstacles is inspiration to go on for another day...

I am putting my bucks on real life stuff..dude..I don't just do words anymore...as I am healed now and in the real world...

And as far as arthur dent arthur goes..he was asking for evidence of what I do and i was just providing potential paths to that evidence...if you don't care about..fine..go on your merry way...if one wills...

And I am still a Geek and not puny anymore..so what.. big f*****g deal if I can pick up your 'volkswagon'...

I can do math too...

The question here is reading comprehension i think...where in the hell did you get the idea I founded a new religion..TAI CHI...DAnce and singing has been around as long as historical text...I'm just claiming it as part of my own religious structure...and yeah..Aleister Crowley suggested the walking in reverse stuff..so I borrowed that from him too..although I did it long before I read about his suggestion...

If you are truly secure in your faith in science..you would not likely be resorting to personal attacks...

It tells me one thing and one thing only..you are likely scared I know something greater than you know...

On the other hand..I'm just sharing these new wonderful experiences that have led to what the doctors describe as a miracle that defies any expectation they had....through decades of clinical experience..and I can probably get that on 'tape too'..on my iphone..if I just ask my doctor to comply to potentially inspire others...but I put my actions where my words are2....

I choose to call It God..you can call it BS..i don't care what you decide to call IT..that is your will not mine...

I do not impose my will on anyone else..nor do I resort to childish personal attacks...


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16 Oct 2013, 4:30 am

adifferentname I am not sure whether to salute your fortitude or scold you for wasting your time reading aghogday's nonsense 8O :wink: I just skim through, often the relevant bits are at the beginning and the end.


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Inevitably then, I return to my stance of ignoring your posts. I find neither nonsensical rambling nor the self-aggrandising pomp to be worthy of my attention.


Yes, this is a good sentiment and a policy that in the absence of any supporting evidence regarding his claims, I am going to implement.

One last comment aghogday, I hope that if god does reveal itself to me and raises me Lazarus like from medical oblivion I will find better things to do than walk backwards really, really, briskly in shopping malls whilst being observed by bemused security guards.


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16 Oct 2013, 7:21 am

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We have come a long way in understanding human psychology, trouble is people like you seem not to like the reality.


Actually, no we haven't. Often we know what will produce a result/outcome in one person, yet not another, and psychologists nor scientists do not know how this happens. They attempt to explain it - but these are theories, much more tentative than you probably realise. It's a huge grey area.

Imagine this. You are setting out for a destination on foot; a place you don't know where, and you don't know how long the journey takes. Three hours later you are still walking. Have you come a long way? That's all relative.

Have we come a long way in space exploration, for instance? Voyager II is way out into space, yet nobody would claim this. I suggest the mind is the same sort of thing - yet there is only one inevitable destination in an internal exploration.

So there we go - the 'reality' you talk of isn't that much of a reality, more a perception, isn't it.

What do you mean 'people like me'? That's pretty poor. Without question you are intelligent, yet I do detect a degree of intellectual snobbery coming from you. It's almost like "I am right, because science is right, and if it's not right, then it will be right - just because it's science". I'm sure you would, quite rightly, slate that attitude coming from religion. However, I suppose in many ways you're a perfect member of society, as you perhaps are so intent on acting like a sheep, and negating those who have the temerity to disagree with you.

This 'modern era' you talk about - another artificial construct, for certain types to pat themselves on the back. We could give it another title, so would we choose, according to political or cultural belief - but there is no big deal - life goes on, the dream runs and runs.

If the only way you can protect your 'truth' is by reducing people that disagree with you, and putting them in a convenient 'box' to stop you questioning your beliefs, then I'd say your science truly has become a religion that you worship.

Ahog at least is trying to offer people an alternative, something for them to try and experience. What are you offering? Pretty much a dead end and despair, a reductive argument for the walking amino acids. Now Douglas Adams might be your hero, but I never felt any despair reading his work.



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16 Oct 2013, 7:40 am

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DentArthurDent wrote:
We have come a long way in understanding human psychology, trouble is people like you seem not to like the reality.


Actually, no we haven't. Often we know what will produce a result/outcome in one person, yet not another, and psychologists nor scientists do not know how this happens. They attempt to explain it - but these are theories, much more tentative than you probably realise. It's a huge grey area.


Misleading. We'll always have more things to learn about anything, but we have come a long way when it comes to understanding the functions of the brain and what accounts for the variations in people's personalities. It is not as much of a mystery as you make it out to be. I should know as I am studying psychology at university and I am being taught these things. And if it's studies you want because you don't trust what people in authority like psychology teachers and psychologists and neuroscientists, you are free to check out the relevant journal article abstracts and see for yourself. I say this as politely as I can. You have no excuse to keep making the claims you make. Either read up on these subjects or don't act like you know more than the scientists do.

By the way, theories in science is a good thing. It does NOT mean hypothesis or mere speculative ideas. A theory in science is equivalent to a very good scientific explanation that accounts for a lot of questions concerning some facts and is derived from a proper scientific study and observations.



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16 Oct 2013, 9:02 am

I have in the past and I will continue to do so, at my own choosing, thank you very much for the kind tip.

And I think you'd concede that there is an awful lot of debate in the schools of psychology. Are you saying that there is consensus? No, of course there is not. A simple example to that will be the importance of Freud. I'm sure you realised that in your psychology 101. I'm sure you could give me hundreds of more examples where opinion differs, since as how you engage with the subject everyday.

So, you claim you are being 'taught' certain things - are you saying you are an authority on the matter? Maybe you are, with due respect, I don't know. There's a lot of good students, who engage in all aspects of their subjects, a lot of mediocre students, and there's a lot of bad students. I don't suppose to know which one you are. I look forward to reading your own contributions to the field of psychology, and in the areas in which you attempt to expand its thinking. Good luck with your qualification.

Just because you claim you are a full-time psychology student, who hasn't even qualified yet (due respect) doesn't mean that those who are not are not entitled to an opinion.

There's certain areas that I have studied, hold professional qualifications in, and once upon a time did write about - however, quite frankly, I don't need to play that 'credibility' card. Who says it is of much importance, anyway. Anyone's opinion is as important as mine, and doesn't change any ultimate truth.

I don't act like I know more than anyone else, but if you assume I do, thanks for the compliment :P

We'll always have more things to learn about anything, but we have come a long way when it comes to understanding the functions of the brain and what accounts for the variations in people's personalities.

Can you even quantify that? No. You can't - that's wishful thinking. Your statement is vague because the area you speak of is vague. You only know what a 'long way' is when the journey is completed. There is no strong sign of that happening. Of course, you could argue that me saying so is just the opposite to you saying so. I agree - but you're the one who wants 'proof'. I'm saying that this is yet another grey area.

Next you'll be telling me the politicians have got it all handled, and that the environment is clearly on the mend.

I know what I know (which is very little, as that's all that really needs to be known). I admit doubt in the things that I don't know - which you are just not doing. There are very few things and beliefs I will hold onto. Scientists don't admit doubt in the things that they know - an explanation is fashioned, or it's something they're 'working on' and will inevitably explain everything. Why don't you just accept the simple fact that pretty much everyone knows, deep down - science tries hard, it's useful, but it's far from perfect - because it's human in essence, it can never be perfect. The material benefits - and consequences - of things created with some scientific influence behind it, are there for all to see. For most people, a widescreen TV is science - how can anyone argue with that.

All you'd have to do is to do an internal journey, look at things differently, and place your 'beliefs' to one side for a while to examine another way at looking at life - yet, you wish to argue about a coin when you're so insistent on seeing one side of it. Maybe, perhaps (who knows?), I lack your learning - but at least I looked at both sides of the coin. Can you say, hand on heart, that you have done that?

Our argument is circular, we're not learning anything from each other are we, and before it descends into a stupid 'I've got more experience/qualifications/clients/ argument, or even the 'my brother is bigger than yours', or 'my God is bigger than your Dawkins' rubbish, I bid my amino acid brotherly collective good day and God speed.



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16 Oct 2013, 10:11 am

Bad argument about the politicians. Politicians are not experts on the environment. In fact, politicians know jack sh*t in general when it comes to all things science and policies.

As for Freud, the consensus is that a lot of what he said is speculative and likely to be false but that some of the things he said turned out to be scientifically true. So yes, there is a consensus concerning Freud just as there is a consensus concerning many things to do with the brain and anything related to psychology.

We know that if any area of the brain is damaged, there is bound to be some clear decline in a certain function. For example, then your frontal lobes get damaged, your personality changes for the worse and you become quite rude and insolent and lacking empathy for others, even if you were once a very congenial and loving person before the damage (like Phineas Gage).

Another example is when your hippocampus gets damaged, you lose the ability to maintain memories of any event that occur after the trauma (a famous case study for this was of a man named HM as I already referred previously).

Also, we have MRI scans and all sorts of other scans that detect practically the same areas of the brain being activated on the person for each task being done. And scanning the brains of people with certain disorders may reveal variations in the activation degree and even areas being activated/inactivated when compared to people lacking these disorders.

And a lot more. And all of them can be easily accounted for by simply assuming monism, that is the idea that the mind is not separate from the brain and that it is but a function of the brain. People who assume dualism despite all the evidence have difficulty explaining why the mind doesn't seem so independent whenever an area in the brain is damaged.

Where the disagreements lie is in relatively minor details that are often simply categorical matters, like how should the forms of memory be classified and so on.

But whatever the case, it is clear there just isn't anything supernatural or divine about our human brains. It is certainly an amazing organ, however, and there are a lot of fascinating things that have been discovered about it and that will be discovered soon.

But go ahead and dismiss these scientific findings, that's your choice. But you are missing out.



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16 Oct 2013, 10:11 am

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adifferentname I am not sure whether to salute your fortitude or scold you for wasting your time reading aghogday's nonsense 8O :wink: I just skim through, often the relevant bits are at the beginning and the end.


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Inevitably then, I return to my stance of ignoring your posts. I find neither nonsensical rambling nor the self-aggrandising pomp to be worthy of my attention.


Yes, this is a good sentiment and a policy that in the absence of any supporting evidence regarding his claims, I am going to implement.

One last comment aghogday, I hope that if god does reveal itself to me and raises me Lazarus like from medical oblivion I will find better things to do than walk backwards really, really, briskly in shopping malls whilst being observed by bemused security guards.


Well..I see you respect me enough now not to address me directly..haha that's kool..

But here is the thing...

I can write the Queen's english better than the two of you..and have written technical articles for the government off and on for decades...

What you seem not to understand is this is a forum for philosophy..religion..and politics...

And in discussing these topics..everything..and I do mean everything goes in communication..as long as IT is not too personally offensive to individuals on this website..and follows along with the rules that Alex has set forth on this great site..that not only welcomes people with autism but also people with other neurological differences like schizophrenia..etc...

Well.. here is the reality my friend..whatever IT is you believe in...

In effect..you show disrespect to people who communicate differently than you..who are neurologically different or potentially do not have the same opportunities you have in life for education..or for whatever you do...

This is the great thing about the Christian religion practiced as the Historical Jesus actually taught...

To not reject anyone based on differences in neurology..education..and intellect is the way of the GOD i iknow...

The way some of the so called autistic people act against people who have different beliefs and different neurologies in this forum is no different than the f*****g fundamentalists that say that gay people are demon possessed...

You see..I use the same sarcasm with you as i do with the fundamentalists screaming at me on the corner yelling the 'good news' to me..that I am going to hell if I don't believe their magic words about the poetic myth about Jesus metaphorically being resurrected...

You guys are not much different than these folks..you obviously have been made fun of in your life for your neurological differences so you are doing your best to be intellectual bullies to other people on this website..in your snooty ways of what you think is intellectual superiority..

Well..I notice now that you are 48 and are from Australia..you've got a macho culture over there..and a great deal of bullying i'm sure if you are some type of weak looking male...

If so maybe you see my pictures and it intimidates you..I don't know but although your bullying tactics will not work with me..you obviously abuse people on this website who are different from you

If this is what faith only in science creates for an individual..it's just sad that is all..And really no different from the restricted minds of fundamentalists literal bible thugs that live in my republican dominated area in Northwest Florida...

In other words.. RELigions that work and ways of life that work..show in the actions of how people live their lives..

So in effect whatever IT is that you believe in seems to suck in my estimation...

I base my value on human beings as they value other human beings..

And I would not even be giving you the time of day if I did not think there is any hope that you could change...

As at least for you I think their might still be hope..

I really don't how I know that but I do...

That IS HOW GOD WORKS...

FAITH MY FRIEND IS GREATER THAN ANY SCIENCE THAT HAS EVER EXISTED..AS IT IS TRUE HUMAN SUPERPOWER...

I CAN MOVE 'MOUNTAINS'..AND I DO...

So with that I'll leave you with a little anthem to fight against..fundamentalist 'minds'.. that attempt to restrict the minds of others by oppressing them into thinking they have to think in their ways..or express themselves in their ways...like you and your so called internet buddies here..hear OK...

No....

YES!

f**k! I can say what ever i want..cause this is my party..and we can't stop..that.. IS.. the people like me that love everyone and do treat those who love others with respect...

No matter what the differences in neurology..education..or beliefs that exist in their life...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrUvu1mlWco[/youtube]

And yeah while I lose respect for people who abuse other people simply for their differences in communication..intellect..etc..I still love them the same...

That's also how GOD works..in my estimation..and yeah spreading thISlight is really where IT's AT..@ or whatever....Whatever IS!


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16 Oct 2013, 10:25 am

And, no, octobertiger, I was not implying that I am an authority. Reread my post. I am saying that the psychologists themselves are the authority when it comes to these matters.



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16 Oct 2013, 10:57 am

MCalavera wrote:
Bad argument about the politicians. Politicians are not experts on the environment. In fact, politicians know jack sh*t in general when it comes to all things science and policies.

As for Freud, the consensus is that a lot of what he said is speculative and likely to be false but that some of the things he said turned out to be scientifically true. So yes, there is a consensus concerning Freud just as there is a consensus concerning many things to do with the brain and anything related to psychology.

We know that if any area of the brain is damaged, there is bound to be some clear decline in a certain function. For example, then your frontal lobes get damaged, your personality changes for the worse and you become quite rude and insolent and lacking empathy for others, even if you were once a very congenial and loving person before the damage (like Phineas Gage).

Another example is when your hippocampus gets damaged, you lose the ability to maintain memories of any event that occur after the trauma (a famous case study for this was of a man named HM as I already referred previously).

Also, we have MRI scans and all sorts of other scans that detect practically the same areas of the brain being activated on the person for each task being done. And scanning the brains of people with certain disorders may reveal variations in the activation degree and even areas being activated/inactivated when compared to people lacking these disorders.

And a lot more. And all of them can be easily accounted for by simply assuming monism, that is the idea that the mind is not separate from the brain and that it is but a function of the brain. People who assume dualism despite all the evidence have difficulty explaining why the mind doesn't seem so independent whenever an area in the brain is damaged.

Where the disagreements lie is in relatively minor details that are often simply categorical matters, like how should the forms of memory be classified and so on.

But whatever the case, it is clear there just isn't anything supernatural or divine about our human brains. It is certainly an amazing organ, however, and there are a lot of fascinating things that have been discovered about it and that will be discovered soon.

But go ahead and dismiss these scientific findings, that's your choice. But you are missing out.


Well..guess what...

I don't lack your learning..I've got the whole package and more..as I read 10 to 15 times faster than the average human being and type close to 130 words a minute..and yeah...writing upwards of 10 thousand words on somedays..with everything else I do in real life..with every once in a while making a grammatical or spelling error.. happens...

You see this other guy here is being completely honest..and I can't help but to respect him very much as he admits his weaknesses and expresses his strengths greatly..and also expresses humility..as no I am not doing that now..as this is my party..as stated above..NOw..

But..you don't know nearly as much as you think you do my friend..

You are a young guy...

And haven't even lived yet..as IT takes decades of experience to really understand the complexity of this life you live..if you ever understand 1 percent of IT..

But here is the other thing..If you ever become truly enlightened like Socrates and other intellectual giants you will understand you know nothing....

That is the secret to faith my friend...

And if IT makes no sense..to YOu NOW..IT simply means you are not yet enlightened..if you even give a s**t about being enlightened..

I am a truth seeker..it is in my DNA..and yes my forefathers were intellectual giants...in the real world..But not me....

My grandfather was a famous writer..and casually dined with Einstein..as they shared socialist beliefs last century when IT could actually be detrimental in the real world to think politically different like this..which was seen as extreme at that time...

My other maternal great grandfather was a lawyer and camped with Geronimo too..and my whole family in real life's history is published in a novel on the maternal side...as overall the adventures were that interesting on that side of the family...

So I have had a very painful and very rich life in almost everyday...everyway..

This brings wisdom my friend..the only thing that brings wisdom is a life full of rich and adverse experiences...

AND YOU see again if you hear..here.. That thESE words are being used by others..not necessarily you...

So my attention is on writing..not you in a personal way...

IN case you are wondering why I AM going on and on here..hehe!

I can easily tolerate you as @least you respect others here...

It seems so far

to me..

That's all that really counts in my estimation ..here...

Everything else is for intellectual stimulation..

And the mean spirited things that some people say..

That simply inspire me in greater ways..

Of poetic expression..

THAT DO INSPIRE OTHERS..

AS THEY TELL

ME

SO....

WHICH IS ALL THE SUCCESS I NEED..IN LIFE..
AS I AM TRULY ALWAYS IN A STATE OF BLISS..

So what more could I ask for..

Nothing..and IT IS no problem admitting i know nothing..

That's the secret....

my friend..

One day you may TRUly understand..

Good fortune to you...


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16 Oct 2013, 11:00 am

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And, no, octobertiger, I was not implying that I am an authority. Reread my post. I am saying that the psychologists themselves are the authority when it comes to these matters.


Kool..humility! I like that..and yeah I'm like that in real life..when i'm not acting in my own directed and written internet play...


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16 Oct 2013, 11:17 am

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And, no, octobertiger, I was not implying that I am an authority. Reread my post. I am saying that the psychologists themselves are the authority when it comes to these matters.


Why bring up what you were studying? Huh? Come on! It was obvious :wink:

You seem to see a unity of purpose, and a consensus, when actually there is much less common ground than you think. You may see that in a future career, where principles are put into practice. Or may not. Do you think I don't know any psychologists? I'm not sure some of them would count as an authority figure, and I'd think you'd agree if you met them.

And your point about the brain - once again, you are confusing the transport network with the real deal. There isn't anything fascinating about the brain. Of course, apart from the ability for memories to be recalled from multiple locations in certain instances, under the aid of deep hypnosis. If you were sat in a chair and gave me an hour of your time, I could show you a lot of what I am on about. But that's a different story.

You are interested in form; I am interested in the formless.

Maybe I've gotten off a train you were riding on a long time ago, for a different journey. Now who is right and who is wrong, is beside the point.

Why am I still here in this onion ring of a debate? Exactly. Time to go...or nearly time.



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16 Oct 2013, 11:30 am

octobertiger wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
And, no, octobertiger, I was not implying that I am an authority. Reread my post. I am saying that the psychologists themselves are the authority when it comes to these matters.


Why bring up what you were studying? Huh? Come on! It was obvious :wink:

You seem to see a unity of purpose, and a consensus, when actually there is much less common ground than you think. You may see that in a future career, where principles are put into practice. Or may not.


This is so true my friend..

My psychiatrist who is a nationally known military expert in psychology readily admits that the profession knows little about the human mind at this point.. if anything.. in relative comparison of what can happen in human experience...

And yeah.. part of my degree in social sciences interdisciplinary is psychology..I bring many terms associated with psychology to my psychiatrist that he has never heard..of...so many patients..so little time to learn new things..I have as much time as the day grows long..

But anyway...

They (the psychiatrists) just try the selection of drugs available until one helps and if not..oh well they throw their hands up in the air and say see ya in 6 months..'whatever'...

HAha..I cured myself...

And YES.. I Am the only person qualified to do that..hehe..in a serious way..

winks..see 'yeah' later friend...


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aghogday wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
And, no, octobertiger, I was not implying that I am an authority. Reread my post. I am saying that the psychologists themselves are the authority when it comes to these matters.


Kool..humility! I like that..and yeah I'm like that in real life..when i'm not acting in my own directed and written internet play...


:lol:



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16 Oct 2013, 11:33 am

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aghogday wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
And, no, octobertiger, I was not implying that I am an authority. Reread my post. I am saying that the psychologists themselves are the authority when it comes to these matters.


Kool..humility! I like that..and yeah I'm like that in real life..when i'm not acting in my own directed and written internet play...


:lol:


;)'s again...
and smiles..:)


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