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01 Dec 2013, 10:11 pm

An interesting chart.
http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/228313


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01 Dec 2013, 10:30 pm

I guess the key to super smartness is sitting down with your mocha bourbon, drinking up then reading some new stuff.



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01 Dec 2013, 10:38 pm

Sounds like a plan,don't forget the drugs. :lol:


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01 Dec 2013, 10:44 pm

If Edison was alive today he'd be living on Monster Energy.



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01 Dec 2013, 10:59 pm

I think it's better to not share goals with friends. Why is it anyone's business but yours what your goals are? I would just keep that to myself. People tend to get jealous of braggarts. Accomplish first. There's not much they can do about it after it's done.



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01 Dec 2013, 11:57 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
I think it's better to not share goals with friends. Why is it anyone's business but yours what your goals are? I would just keep that to myself. People tend to get jealous of braggarts. Accomplish first. There's not much they can do about it after it's done.

It's not about bragging, though. If you share goals with friends, they can help keep you accountable and, thus, on track.

Most of the time my wife is really encouraging. But sometimes she'll give me this look that says, "Dude, you're a freaking idiot" and I'll be, like, ok, that's really not a good idea. Smart people are aware of the limits of their own intelligence. Ironically, being smart isn't always about having the most brain power on your own, but rather being able to choose friends and advisors who are strong in areas you are not. Most importantly, smarter people actually LISTEN to advice and do what they're told--not because being smart means being a pushover, but because the voice of intelligence and experience brings us closer to reaching our goals.

If had a nickel for all the good advice I didn't listen to over the last 10 years, I'd be too rich to live with regrets! As it stands, I'm paying for it; but better now than waking up 30 years from now just figuring this out and not having enough life left to really make my goals count for anything.

It's not that it's anyone's business what you're up to. It's not. But sometimes sharing ideas can send up red flags an outsider might see that you won't. It's just a way of avoiding the pains of going off half-cocked.



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02 Dec 2013, 12:13 am

But if Ben Franklin had a wife she would have yelled at him to put that kite away and come in out of the rain. :D "Fool,your gonna get struck by lightning,now get your ass in the house!"


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02 Dec 2013, 12:27 am

AngelRho wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
I think it's better to not share goals with friends. Why is it anyone's business but yours what your goals are? I would just keep that to myself. People tend to get jealous of braggarts. Accomplish first. There's not much they can do about it after it's done.

It's not about bragging, though. If you share goals with friends, they can help keep you accountable and, thus, on track.

Most of the time my wife is really encouraging. But sometimes she'll give me this look that says, "Dude, you're a freaking idiot" and I'll be, like, ok, that's really not a good idea. Smart people are aware of the limits of their own intelligence. Ironically, being smart isn't always about having the most brain power on your own, but rather being able to choose friends and advisors who are strong in areas you are not. Most importantly, smarter people actually LISTEN to advice and do what they're told--not because being smart means being a pushover, but because the voice of intelligence and experience brings us closer to reaching our goals.

If had a nickel for all the good advice I didn't listen to over the last 10 years, I'd be too rich to live with regrets! As it stands, I'm paying for it; but better now than waking up 30 years from now just figuring this out and not having enough life left to really make my goals count for anything.

It's not that it's anyone's business what you're up to. It's not. But sometimes sharing ideas can send up red flags an outsider might see that you won't. It's just a way of avoiding the pains of going off half-cocked.

Haha, my goals aren't that grandiose. Why do you want someone to talk you out of your goals? Do you think successful people are talked out of theirs? If they were, would they be where they are now if they listened to the person that told them it would never work. Their plan is seriously flawed. Impossible to realize. The good thing about hearing that is it makes some people more determined in reaching their goals.
I don't tell myself I am going to be President of the US or anything like that. I am good at figuring out what I can accomplish and find, more often than not, people I know try to sabotage it so I prefer to keep things to myself, then tell when it's accomplished.



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02 Dec 2013, 8:00 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
I think it's better to not share goals with friends. Why is it anyone's business but yours what your goals are? I would just keep that to myself. People tend to get jealous of braggarts. Accomplish first. There's not much they can do about it after it's done.

It's not about bragging, though. If you share goals with friends, they can help keep you accountable and, thus, on track.

Most of the time my wife is really encouraging. But sometimes she'll give me this look that says, "Dude, you're a freaking idiot" and I'll be, like, ok, that's really not a good idea. Smart people are aware of the limits of their own intelligence. Ironically, being smart isn't always about having the most brain power on your own, but rather being able to choose friends and advisors who are strong in areas you are not. Most importantly, smarter people actually LISTEN to advice and do what they're told--not because being smart means being a pushover, but because the voice of intelligence and experience brings us closer to reaching our goals.

If had a nickel for all the good advice I didn't listen to over the last 10 years, I'd be too rich to live with regrets! As it stands, I'm paying for it; but better now than waking up 30 years from now just figuring this out and not having enough life left to really make my goals count for anything.

It's not that it's anyone's business what you're up to. It's not. But sometimes sharing ideas can send up red flags an outsider might see that you won't. It's just a way of avoiding the pains of going off half-cocked.

Haha, my goals aren't that grandiose. Why do you want someone to talk you out of your goals? Do you think successful people are talked out of theirs? If they were, would they be where they are now if they listened to the person that told them it would never work. Their plan is seriously flawed. Impossible to realize. The good thing about hearing that is it makes some people more determined in reaching their goals.
I don't tell myself I am going to be President of the US or anything like that. I am good at figuring out what I can accomplish and find, more often than not, people I know try to sabotage it so I prefer to keep things to myself, then tell when it's accomplished.

Sure, that's fine. But people who build, say, megacorporations never work in a vacuum.

There are a large number of things I don't need people for. For example, I'm really into creating electronic music--and by that, I mean other-worldly kinds of sound sculptures that probably nobody but me is interested in. Fine. I compose music for myself. I'm not here to win any awards, I just enjoy making music.

However, if I want to turn music into something I can make a living at, I can't work alone. Sooner or later I'm going to have to write, record, and perform arrangements that other people will like. I'm too much of a space cadet to do that, although I do have a little bit of a clue as to what people like. Sooner or later, I'm going to have to rely on someone I trust to tell me what it is people want in an instrumental album and what I could put out there that will most likely sell. I need someone to help me assess what's hot out there--because I'm the anti-trend guy--and give me advice as to what I should do about it. When I sit down to record, I'm going to inject a lot of myself into the musical arrangement, so it's not lack of originality that I'm trying to sell. It's all ME. But I can't sell ME if I don't know what people are buying. And I won't know what people are buying unless someone tells me.

As to the musical arrangements themselves, I'm good at coming up with grandiose, megalomaniacal, aggressive ideas that I know get MY heart pumping. But those ideas aren't always going to work musically, and the most dangerous part is they might actually be a turnoff for a lot of people. I might think I've got the next 9th Symphony, but if my wife is shaking her head on that ONE NOTE that I insist is the key to the whole composition, I'm afraid I'm going to have to change it. It's not because my wife has the same musical education and background I have; she doesn't, she just likes to sing with the radio, has had little in the way of formal training, and all that compared to me and my master's degree in music composition. What she IS, though, is a fresh set of ears who isn't connected to the project in the same way I am. If she doesn't like it, chances are a lot of people aren't going to like it, either. I need her to stay objective, and getting advice/input from others mostly helps improve things.

Another example: I composed for a pianist and a string quartet several years ago. I probably should have shopped around for a better ensemble, but these guys seemed really good for what I wanted to do. After rehearsing a particular movement with them, it was brought to my attention that movement was unplayable. It hurt my pride to hear that. However, if I wanted to get this work performed, I was going to have to rewrite that particular movement. I was able to preserve a lot of the musical ideas I wanted to present, it was done very well when they performed it, and I was able to rewrite it on the hour and a half drive back home. Given that this was to be performed at a wedding, I couldn't afford having my ensemble goof it up, so I felt it was better to listen to good advice from string players who really know what they're doing (I'd never written for strings before that, and my thesis doesn't count).

Big CEO types have to come up with a vision for their business that serves as the model for how the business is run. I want THIS product, I want it to cost THIS much to produce, and I want to sell at THIS percentage profit. Someone at the head of a corporation has bigger fish to fry than to haggle over design. That's not his job. The business he founded exists to do exactly that. He came up with a product, he designed it, he sold it. It made megabucks. He came up with new products, designed them, sold them. Made 10x the megabucks. Time passes. Technology moves forward. The same products have to be upgraded to continue sales. So he hires designers, carefully explains to them what he wants and how he did what he did…now we need MORE and better. Make it happen. Let me see what you come up with by the end of next week.

Things seem to go well, but the products aren't selling. Why is that? Products have cycles. People are moving away from those products because there's a newer, cooler way to do things. So what do we do? Hire a guy who knows how to follow trends and can really take OUR products to a whole new level or invent something that meets public demand. We need people with ideas while we provide the expertise and resources to get the job done. What we can NOT do is try to do this alone.

Most small business start out as just one guy providing a service. I play keyboards and teach piano lessons. I'm just one guy. That's all I can do, aside from recording some backing tracks. I can haul my own, small PA system and set up for gigs.

However, I don't get that many gigs. I play with a couple of bands, do some church gigs, and that's about it. If that ever changed, I'd have enough money coming in I could hire a guy to get me set up, run sound, and play all my tracks for me. If things were going really well and I could do better by bringing in more performers, I might hire some university music department kids to come in to gig with me. And who knows? One of them might be the next up-and-coming composer/arranger. If I have someone I hired on my team who is as much about the creative process as I am, I think it would really suck if I made my ensemble all about ME. If I "discover" some poor guy who just needs a break, I'm going to do everything I reasonably can to keep him because I know we're going to make a lot of money. Not only that, but if I'm gigging a lot and writing arrangements, I'm probably going to be exhausted. I can tell this guy: Look, here's what I want, and I just don't have enough time to do it anymore. If I write lead sheets, can you just sort of take my notes and write out full arrangements for us? That'd be swell, y'know!

You can do bigger things with a bigger team. If all you do is, say, knit scarves and sell them on eBay, you can likely handle it on your own. There's nothing wrong with that. But…think about that…if you use eBay, what you're doing is outsourcing your point of sale. You aren't working alone. You're employing a service to help sell your knit crafts. You're basically accepting someone else's idea for selling a product when you use their model. You're effectively hiring them because eBay takes a small amount of the purchase price at auction close. I wonder if the guy who invented eBay worked alone...



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02 Dec 2013, 9:05 am

Well..I guess I am smart considering I graduated at AROUND the 99 percentile at school.. and all of that..

But here is the thing and a huge thing..

Standard IQ testing is so so limited..

And emotional intelligence can BE so more about ACTUAL LIFE success PER THAT REAL THING CALLED HAPPINESS in itself than ANY OTHER type of intelligence..

But here's another thing..there is already research that indicates there are two pathways of the brain...

One that is mechanical cognition the type of intelligence that allows us to build an algebra equation..a house...or pizza...

And the other which is social cognition...that empathy stuff..that connects us to other human beings either through non-verbal or verbal communication...

So woah..real problem for people on the spectrum here..

But even BIGGER PROBLEM FOR people who continue to strengthen the mechanical cognition area of their brain..but don't do the empathy increasing activities that through neuroplasticity can make that pathway 'strong as steel' as well...

But another HUGE HUGE PROBLEM is that there is also PHYSICAL INTELLIGENCE..SUCH as the ability to navigate through the environment in balance as agile..with all proprioception working together in concert...

Yeah that's what physical education..or that PE stuff is for...

To effectively use the body to reALLy get around...

ANd yah..sitting in front of a computer tapping..tapping away..fixating the gaze on one point in front of a person..is no way to gain that education..the fully physical intelligence that can be...

So why oh why oh why..do so many so called really really 'smart' folks get all involved in drugs and anxiety and all of that...

Well..it's simple in reality..they have less thaN half a brain..cause that don't fully use the whole dam thing..to make what it simply is 'meant' to be work..and then homeostasis ..work and then homeostasis...

That requires a balance.. and only using half a brain won't get a person there..

And by the way physical and emotional intelligence are just two examples...

There is also musical intelligence..existential intelligence ETC...

http://skyview.vansd.org/lschmidt/Proje ... igence.htm

And yeah..this is a theory ..as most of what is understood about the human MIND is as such anyway..

But ..I exercise all these types of intelligence..

IN the real world that gives me a huge advantage for one simple thing....

Happiness..

I live in the heaven of bliss all the time..

Simply because I exercise all of these parts of my brain...

IN the real world...from an evolutionary perspective..this IS WHAT HUMAN BEINGS HAD TO DO TO SURVIVE..

So YAH... EVEN THOUGH LIFE WAS LIKELY SHORT AND BRUTAL..

THERE WERE LIKELY MANY smiles along the way...

It's really not that complicated in my estimation if one uses all these parts of their brain....

But the restrictions of culture that makes an illusory world..where people fall in to traps of watching TV to recreate or playing video games and all of that...

Simply restrict the brain..simply restrict the brain..in only a few directions and strengths..

Rather than making the whole dam thing..one fine working machine for heaven and bliss..

And yah...I do literally mean BLISS.. THERE IS no other word that adequately describes every microsecond of my personal existence AND EXPERIENCE NOW..such as this..BLISS.

BUT AGAIN..yah..I take the time and effort to exercise ALL THESE AREAS OF MY BRAIN...

BUT NAH..MOST PEOPLE AIN'T FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENT AND DON'T HAVE TO WORK IN THE SO CALED REAL WORLD..LIKE ME...

SO FOR ME AT LEAST..GETTING reTIRED..means fully gaining the rubber for my brain TIRE..that was once fully a REAL happiness MAKING MACHINE...

LIKE IT WAS WHEN I WAS THREE..BEFORE i started going to kindergarden and didn't exercise all the parts of my brain..like i did before the BRAIN limiting school that I went to then.....

But thank GOD for liberal arts colleges..where once again i got on the path of enlightenment in getting all those NEURONS FIRING AGAIN....

BUT YAH..ALL THAT WORK FOR THIRTY SOMETHING YEARS..TV..VIDEO GAMES...AND ALL OF THAT..PUT THE REAL BRAKES ON FOR HAPPINESS..

oh My GOD i finally escaped that..so at least for me..BLISS IS FINALLY HERE TO STAY..AGAIN.. LIKE IT WAS WHEN I WAS THREE..FOREVERnow THEN....

And well..maybe this is ALL about me but I seriously doubt IT..

Trying working reALLy hard on the full 9 types of intelligence described in the link above..and see if you don't eventually simply fALL Into BLISS..

It might take 10 days..10 years..or 4 decades..but I promise you this..when you get there..that NOW..will make IT ALL WORTH IT.....BLISS is ALLITIS....

AND YAH.. ALLITIS..IS THE BEST DAM CONDITION OF ALL..BLISS1!

IS ALLITIS


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02 Dec 2013, 9:34 am

Misslizard wrote:
Sounds like a plan,don't forget the drugs. :lol:


You missed the fine print. :shameonyou:

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REMEMBER, WHILE EXTREME INTELIIGENCE HAS SOME NEGATIVE ASSOCIATIONS, EXHIBITING THESE TRAITS WON'T MAKE YOU SMARTER!


The fine print was all in capital letters.



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02 Dec 2013, 9:35 am

Hey, how about some of those BAD habits on the chart?

Intelligence on its own is no guarantee of success. Personally, I take a negative moral view of premarital sex, but that doesn't mean I wasn't guilty of it back in the day. Sex, besides the moral implications, is a distraction…hence why highly intelligent people are smart enough to avoid it in favor of academic goals.

But, here's the thing: If they're so smart--why are they NOT having sex? I would think smarter people would have the presence of mind to reproduce MORE than less intelligent folks. If there's a genetic component, or, if nothing else, a nurturing component that breeds intelligence across generations, we need to be doing more to support monogamous relationships among the best and brightest in order to get them making babies.

Just saying…

Anyhow…not that I'm super smart or anything, but I was just a few points shy of graduating with honors with my master's degree (standards are higher for grad students, anyway, but that's no excuse…). I can totally relate to the night owl and drinking thing. And the anxiety. I find I'm more creative and imaginative at night than in the day--I'm less inhibited, and feeling somewhat dreamy allows me to take more risks than I would otherwise. However, I feel like I'm freaking out all day long if I have to be awake all day. Anxiety, depression, and lack of sleep go hand in hand with me. I tend to reserve the later hours of the day for writing down ideas for new music or reflecting on what I got done during the day. I've started waking up at 5:00 every morning and getting immediately to work. I've gotten a LOT more done that way because it's like I'm stealing two hours I didn't have before right before I have to get my kids to school. I'll keep stuff going on at night if I have spare time, but I don't have to freak out about it if I can't.

The other thing about the sex habits and link to self-discipline--I suspect it doesn't have that much to do with self-discipline. If you're too engrossed in the books and school work--and there is nothing wrong with that--you're missing out on social skills. It's like you have to sacrifice one for the other. Just because the Maxwell–Boltzmann distribution makes you hot doesn't mean it's your partner's idea of intense foreplay, much less appropriate discussion during the sex act.

The way I got started in figuring out the opposite sex was a similar kind of disciplined study. To me, sexy = vintage synthesizers, and there's nothing curvier or more beautiful than a Synclavier V/PK, with wooden keys all cut from the same tree. *wipes drool* Chances are a potential love interest is not going to care about how many buttons I have on my keyboard or what that extra key on my clarinet does. So when no one was looking, I was sneaking my mom's Redbook magazines and her Sandra Brown paperbacks. You want to give women what they want? Read what they're reading. It's as simple as that. The cure for male social ineptness is a year's subscription to Cosmo and a bookshelf full of Nora Roberts. Do NOT doubt me on this!

The point here is that smart people are often too smart for their own good. They are too self-preoccupied to notice anything or anyone outside their sphere of interest. They're perpetual virgins, I think, not because they WANT to be, but because love and sex are areas in which they feel utterly lost. Prior to settling down, my favorite sexual experience was with a girl who was probably nerdier than me. It wasn't that she had zero interest in sex that she was a virgin…it was that she never realized she had the opportunity. We remedied that fairly quickly. I could be wrong, but I suspect that higher IQs and self-discipline don't really have that much correlation with sexual activity. I think nerd-types are probably easier than we give them credit. They just need someone else to make the first move. I had a LOT of fun with my little 18 year old, undergrad, computer/math/oboe/piano girl. If I were a betting man, I'd bet most nerd types would turn out like her if someone else actively showed interest.



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02 Dec 2013, 10:13 am

AngelRho wrote:
Hey, how about some of those BAD habits on the chart?

Intelligence on its own is no guarantee of success. Personally, I take a negative moral view of premarital sex, but that doesn't mean I wasn't guilty of it back in the day. Sex, besides the moral implications, is a distraction…hence why highly intelligent people are smart enough to avoid it in favor of academic goals.

But, here's the thing: If they're so smart--why are they NOT having sex? I would think smarter people would have the presence of mind to reproduce MORE than less intelligent folks. If there's a genetic component, or, if nothing else, a nurturing component that breeds intelligence across generations, we need to be doing more to support monogamous relationships among the best and brightest in order to get them making babies.

Just saying…

Anyhow…not that I'm super smart or anything, but I was just a few points shy of graduating with honors with my master's degree (standards are higher for grad students, anyway, but that's no excuse…). I can totally relate to the night owl and drinking thing. And the anxiety. I find I'm more creative and imaginative at night than in the day--I'm less inhibited, and feeling somewhat dreamy allows me to take more risks than I would otherwise. However, I feel like I'm freaking out all day long if I have to be awake all day. Anxiety, depression, and lack of sleep go hand in hand with me. I tend to reserve the later hours of the day for writing down ideas for new music or reflecting on what I got done during the day. I've started waking up at 5:00 every morning and getting immediately to work. I've gotten a LOT more done that way because it's like I'm stealing two hours I didn't have before right before I have to get my kids to school. I'll keep stuff going on at night if I have spare time, but I don't have to freak out about it if I can't.

The other thing about the sex habits and link to self-discipline--I suspect it doesn't have that much to do with self-discipline. If you're too engrossed in the books and school work--and there is nothing wrong with that--you're missing out on social skills. It's like you have to sacrifice one for the other. Just because the Maxwell–Boltzmann distribution makes you hot doesn't mean it's your partner's idea of intense foreplay, much less appropriate discussion during the sex act.

The way I got started in figuring out the opposite sex was a similar kind of disciplined study. To me, sexy = vintage synthesizers, and there's nothing curvier or more beautiful than a Synclavier V/PK, with wooden keys all cut from the same tree. *wipes drool* Chances are a potential love interest is not going to care about how many buttons I have on my keyboard or what that extra key on my clarinet does. So when no one was looking, I was sneaking my mom's Redbook magazines and her Sandra Brown paperbacks. You want to give women what they want? Read what they're reading. It's as simple as that. The cure for male social ineptness is a year's subscription to Cosmo and a bookshelf full of Nora Roberts. Do NOT doubt me on this!

The point here is that smart people are often too smart for their own good. They are too self-preoccupied to notice anything or anyone outside their sphere of interest. They're perpetual virgins, I think, not because they WANT to be, but because love and sex are areas in which they feel utterly lost. Prior to settling down, my favorite sexual experience was with a girl who was probably nerdier than me. It wasn't that she had zero interest in sex that she was a virgin…it was that she never realized she had the opportunity. We remedied that fairly quickly. I could be wrong, but I suspect that higher IQs and self-discipline don't really have that much correlation with sexual activity. I think nerd-types are probably easier than we give them credit. They just need someone else to make the first move. I had a LOT of fun with my little 18 year old, undergrad, computer/math/oboe/piano girl. If I were a betting man, I'd bet most nerd types would turn out like her if someone else actively showed interest.


Morals in general have more to do with cultural illusions and in effect brain washing..

Anyone who views sex as bad..

Isn't viewing reality in the light that reality is per overall reproductive success..

And overall reproductive success..has no more smartness or so called 'intelligence' than that..

Practice makes perfect..and starting young well before one gets in a morally or legally binding agreement to get there..IS certainly a greater statistical advantage to gaining the real success that is generating in living..

Getting some and having offspring..IS WHERE IT IS ALWAYS AT..

FOR SUCCESS AND REAL INTELLIGENCE IN THE REAL WORLD OF SURVIVING..THAT IS ALL..

AND GENERALLY SPEAKING..what mostly is described as 'technical intelligence'..is simply an illusion generated by abstract thought throughout that more or less is a result of collective intelligence..

Not the stuff the stuff of the 'realer' world that makes survival reALLy happen...

Relatively few people even do anything associated with their college degrees in making a real living in the real world..

Especially now..where adaptation to continuous change makes predicting anything of the future..almost impossible anyway...

Adapting to school is not nearly enough..taking into consideration the full intelligence of what a human being reALLy can be per my last post..

Is reALLy where IT's at..and yah..that's just my opinion..

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02 Dec 2013, 10:57 am

aghogday wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
Hey, how about some of those BAD habits on the chart?

Intelligence on its own is no guarantee of success. Personally, I take a negative moral view of premarital sex, but that doesn't mean I wasn't guilty of it back in the day. Sex, besides the moral implications, is a distraction…hence why highly intelligent people are smart enough to avoid it in favor of academic goals.

But, here's the thing: If they're so smart--why are they NOT having sex? I would think smarter people would have the presence of mind to reproduce MORE than less intelligent folks. If there's a genetic component, or, if nothing else, a nurturing component that breeds intelligence across generations, we need to be doing more to support monogamous relationships among the best and brightest in order to get them making babies.

Just saying…

Anyhow…not that I'm super smart or anything, but I was just a few points shy of graduating with honors with my master's degree (standards are higher for grad students, anyway, but that's no excuse…). I can totally relate to the night owl and drinking thing. And the anxiety. I find I'm more creative and imaginative at night than in the day--I'm less inhibited, and feeling somewhat dreamy allows me to take more risks than I would otherwise. However, I feel like I'm freaking out all day long if I have to be awake all day. Anxiety, depression, and lack of sleep go hand in hand with me. I tend to reserve the later hours of the day for writing down ideas for new music or reflecting on what I got done during the day. I've started waking up at 5:00 every morning and getting immediately to work. I've gotten a LOT more done that way because it's like I'm stealing two hours I didn't have before right before I have to get my kids to school. I'll keep stuff going on at night if I have spare time, but I don't have to freak out about it if I can't.

The other thing about the sex habits and link to self-discipline--I suspect it doesn't have that much to do with self-discipline. If you're too engrossed in the books and school work--and there is nothing wrong with that--you're missing out on social skills. It's like you have to sacrifice one for the other. Just because the Maxwell–Boltzmann distribution makes you hot doesn't mean it's your partner's idea of intense foreplay, much less appropriate discussion during the sex act.

The way I got started in figuring out the opposite sex was a similar kind of disciplined study. To me, sexy = vintage synthesizers, and there's nothing curvier or more beautiful than a Synclavier V/PK, with wooden keys all cut from the same tree. *wipes drool* Chances are a potential love interest is not going to care about how many buttons I have on my keyboard or what that extra key on my clarinet does. So when no one was looking, I was sneaking my mom's Redbook magazines and her Sandra Brown paperbacks. You want to give women what they want? Read what they're reading. It's as simple as that. The cure for male social ineptness is a year's subscription to Cosmo and a bookshelf full of Nora Roberts. Do NOT doubt me on this!

The point here is that smart people are often too smart for their own good. They are too self-preoccupied to notice anything or anyone outside their sphere of interest. They're perpetual virgins, I think, not because they WANT to be, but because love and sex are areas in which they feel utterly lost. Prior to settling down, my favorite sexual experience was with a girl who was probably nerdier than me. It wasn't that she had zero interest in sex that she was a virgin…it was that she never realized she had the opportunity. We remedied that fairly quickly. I could be wrong, but I suspect that higher IQs and self-discipline don't really have that much correlation with sexual activity. I think nerd-types are probably easier than we give them credit. They just need someone else to make the first move. I had a LOT of fun with my little 18 year old, undergrad, computer/math/oboe/piano girl. If I were a betting man, I'd bet most nerd types would turn out like her if someone else actively showed interest.


Morals in general have more to do with cultural illusions and in effect brain washing..

Anyone who views sex as bad..

Isn't viewing reality in the light that reality is per overall reproductive success..

And overall reproductive success..has no more smartness or so called 'intelligence' than that..

Practice makes perfect..and starting young well before one gets in a morally or legally binding agreement to get there..IS certainly a greater statistical advantage to gaining the real success that is generating in living..

Getting some and having offspring..IS WHERE IT IS ALWAYS AT..

FOR SUCCESS AND REAL INTELLIGENCE IN THE REAL WORLD OF SURVIVING..THAT IS ALL..

AND GENERALLY SPEAKING..what mostly is described as 'technical intelligence'..is simply an illusion generated by abstract thought throughout that more or less is a result of collective intelligence..

Not the stuff the stuff of the 'realer' world that makes survival reALLy happen...

Relatively few people even do anything associated with their college degrees in making a real living in the real world..

Especially now..where adaptation to continuous change makes predicting anything of the future..almost impossible anyway...

Adapting to school is not nearly enough..taking into consideration the full intelligence of what a human being reALLy can be per my last post..

Is reALLy where IT's at..and yah..that's just my opinion..

A
GAIN....

It's not that sex really is "bad". Even if you interpret the Bible the way I do, it is by far still not the greatest of our worries on Biblical moral issues. Nobody is perfect. Even in the OT, as long as someone isn't contracted to marry someone else (bear in mind the differences in roles between men and women back then versus now), it wasn't that big a deal. What WAS a big deal would be if a man was under the impression that the woman was a virgin on the wedding night. As long as everyone who mattered understood what was going on and were ok with it, nobody else ever need know about it. After all, if you love someone, what does it matter whether she's a virgin or not?

But, again, differences between the ancient world and ours, and I won't get into that here.

The biggest problem with sex prior to completing education and career goals is that often relational issues are miscommunicated. People tend to bond over sex in emotional ways, which adds to academic and career pressures. If you're smart, you'll avoid anything that's going to get in the way of those goals. And, I mean, whatever that is. Could be sex. Could be video games. People that engage too often in distractions and escapes aren't THAT interested in meeting their goals.

However, as I said earlier, I don't think THAT is the reason smarter people aren't having sex!



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Hey, how about some of those BAD habits on the chart?

Intelligence on its own is no guarantee of success. Personally, I take a negative moral view of premarital sex, but that doesn't mean I wasn't guilty of it back in the day. Sex, besides the moral implications, is a distraction…hence why highly intelligent people are smart enough to avoid it in favor of academic goals.

But, here's the thing: If they're so smart--why are they NOT having sex? I would think smarter people would have the presence of mind to reproduce MORE than less intelligent folks. If there's a genetic component, or, if nothing else, a nurturing component that breeds intelligence across generations, we need to be doing more to support monogamous relationships among the best and brightest in order to get them making babies.

Just saying…

Anyhow…not that I'm super smart or anything, but I was just a few points shy of graduating with honors with my master's degree (standards are higher for grad students, anyway, but that's no excuse…). I can totally relate to the night owl and drinking thing. And the anxiety. I find I'm more creative and imaginative at night than in the day--I'm less inhibited, and feeling somewhat dreamy allows me to take more risks than I would otherwise. However, I feel like I'm freaking out all day long if I have to be awake all day. Anxiety, depression, and lack of sleep go hand in hand with me. I tend to reserve the later hours of the day for writing down ideas for new music or reflecting on what I got done during the day. I've started waking up at 5:00 every morning and getting immediately to work. I've gotten a LOT more done that way because it's like I'm stealing two hours I didn't have before right before I have to get my kids to school. I'll keep stuff going on at night if I have spare time, but I don't have to freak out about it if I can't.

The other thing about the sex habits and link to self-discipline--I suspect it doesn't have that much to do with self-discipline. If you're too engrossed in the books and school work--and there is nothing wrong with that--you're missing out on social skills. It's like you have to sacrifice one for the other. Just because the Maxwell–Boltzmann distribution makes you hot doesn't mean it's your partner's idea of intense foreplay, much less appropriate discussion during the sex act.

The way I got started in figuring out the opposite sex was a similar kind of disciplined study. To me, sexy = vintage synthesizers, and there's nothing curvier or more beautiful than a Synclavier V/PK, with wooden keys all cut from the same tree. *wipes drool* Chances are a potential love interest is not going to care about how many buttons I have on my keyboard or what that extra key on my clarinet does. So when no one was looking, I was sneaking my mom's Redbook magazines and her Sandra Brown paperbacks. You want to give women what they want? Read what they're reading. It's as simple as that. The cure for male social ineptness is a year's subscription to Cosmo and a bookshelf full of Nora Roberts. Do NOT doubt me on this!

The point here is that smart people are often too smart for their own good. They are too self-preoccupied to notice anything or anyone outside their sphere of interest. They're perpetual virgins, I think, not because they WANT to be, but because love and sex are areas in which they feel utterly lost. Prior to settling down, my favorite sexual experience was with a girl who was probably nerdier than me. It wasn't that she had zero interest in sex that she was a virgin…it was that she never realized she had the opportunity. We remedied that fairly quickly. I could be wrong, but I suspect that higher IQs and self-discipline don't really have that much correlation with sexual activity. I think nerd-types are probably easier than we give them credit. They just need someone else to make the first move. I had a LOT of fun with my little 18 year old, undergrad, computer/math/oboe/piano girl. If I were a betting man, I'd bet most nerd types would turn out like her if someone else actively showed interest.


Morals in general have more to do with cultural illusions and in effect brain washing..

Anyone who views sex as bad..

Isn't viewing reality in the light that reality is per overall reproductive success..

And overall reproductive success..has no more smartness or so called 'intelligence' than that..

Practice makes perfect..and starting young well before one gets in a morally or legally binding agreement to get there..IS certainly a greater statistical advantage to gaining the real success that is generating in living..

Getting some and having offspring..IS WHERE IT IS ALWAYS AT..

FOR SUCCESS AND REAL INTELLIGENCE IN THE REAL WORLD OF SURVIVING..THAT IS ALL..

AND GENERALLY SPEAKING..what mostly is described as 'technical intelligence'..is simply an illusion generated by abstract thought throughout that more or less is a result of collective intelligence..

Not the stuff the stuff of the 'realer' world that makes survival reALLy happen...

Relatively few people even do anything associated with their college degrees in making a real living in the real world..

Especially now..where adaptation to continuous change makes predicting anything of the future..almost impossible anyway...

Adapting to school is not nearly enough..taking into consideration the full intelligence of what a human being reALLy can be per my last post..

Is reALLy where IT's at..and yah..that's just my opinion..

A
GAIN....

It's not that sex really is "bad". Even if you interpret the Bible the way I do, it is by far still not the greatest of our worries on Biblical moral issues. Nobody is perfect. Even in the OT, as long as someone isn't contracted to marry someone else (bear in mind the differences in roles between men and women back then versus now), it wasn't that big a deal. What WAS a big deal would be if a man was under the impression that the woman was a virgin on the wedding night. As long as everyone who mattered understood what was going on and were ok with it, nobody else ever need know about it. After all, if you love someone, what does it matter whether she's a virgin or not?

But, again, differences between the ancient world and ours, and I won't get into that here.

The biggest problem with sex prior to completing education and career goals is that often relational issues are miscommunicated. People tend to bond over sex in emotional ways, which adds to academic and career pressures. If you're smart, you'll avoid anything that's going to get in the way of those goals. And, I mean, whatever that is. Could be sex. Could be video games. People that engage too often in distractions and escapes aren't THAT interested in meeting their goals.

However, as I said earlier, I don't think THAT is the reason smarter people aren't having sex!


Well..in Japan there is a real crisis where young people are actually losing interest in sex..the physical act of intercourse..

And in that highly technology oriented society..like South Korea..where men there are mostly interested in cosmetics instead of 'doing IT...there is a real technical difference in the way the human brain is used in the mechanical cognition intelligence associated with computers...that IS much different than your focus on music..

IN my opinion that is likely what may set you and i apart here on this particular forum..as to why we so strongly believe in a higher power..and others that think it is simply non-sense...

Where there are little feelings of empathy or the other nuances of the human experience...well yah..there is literally little feelings of empathy or other nuances of human experience...

So if there is not the empathy associated with actually bonding with another human being..including physical intercourse.. ergo..the chances are there will not likely likely be the emotions..including faith and hope associated emotions that are usually included in the human experience..but yes..in the last several decades are becoming more and more taken away..by a life spent with mechanical cognition more so than empathic cognition that make human connections..that yah..include physical human sexual intercourse....

So yah..people who focus their life almost completely on mechanical cognition..are really letting themselves 'down' in the long run ..but 'nah'..as that historical dude Jesus..said..in his stay on that historical cross..they know not what they do...

They live in another continent of the mind..peering into the distance of a window..that is blocking their view...

OF the fuller life that can be a human being...


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02 Dec 2013, 11:20 am

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Sounds like a plan,don't forget the drugs. :lol:


You missed the fine print. :shameonyou:

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REMEMBER, WHILE EXTREME INTELIIGENCE HAS SOME NEGATIVE ASSOCIATIONS, EXHIBITING THESE TRAITS WON'T MAKE YOU SMARTER!


The fine print was all in capital letters.

I saw it.But some of the negative things are FUN,to a certain extent.


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