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14 Dec 2013, 8:28 pm

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Does everybody's version of God give a similar/different experience to the individual?

Just a question.


The best thing my god has done for me is not existing. ;)



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God saved me from both abortion and suicide...literally.


Literally! Evidence please, and I dont mean evidence of your near abortion, which by the way had it occurred you would have known nothing about, nor your attempt at suicide. Incontrovertible proof that nothing natural came to your aid. As the saying goes extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.


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15 Dec 2013, 3:58 am

Ganondox wrote:
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God saved me from both abortion and suicide...literally.


Literally! Evidence please, and I dont mean evidence of your near abortion, which by the way had it occurred you would have known nothing about, nor your attempt at suicide. Incontrovertible proof that nothing natural came to your aid. As the saying goes extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.


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15 Dec 2013, 4:10 am

I'll substitute for God on his day off, everyone seems to give him lots of money on his off day :)



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15 Dec 2013, 11:29 pm

DentArthurDent wrote:
Moviefan2k4 wrote:
God saved me from both abortion and suicide...literally.


Literally! Evidence please, and I don't mean evidence of your near abortion, which by the way had it occurred you would have known nothing about, nor your attempt at suicide. Incontrovertible proof that nothing natural came to your aid. As the saying goes extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
I doubt you'd accept a supernatural vision as evidence, in spite of the fact I personally experienced it. After all, St. John was given something similar, and people have tried to discredit him for almost 2,000 years.


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16 Dec 2013, 4:08 am

DentArthurDent wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
Moviefan2k4 wrote:
God saved me from both abortion and suicide...literally.


Literally! Evidence please, and I dont mean evidence of your near abortion, which by the way had it occurred you would have known nothing about, nor your attempt at suicide. Incontrovertible proof that nothing natural came to your aid. As the saying goes extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.


Urn@$$


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Better that way :P


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16 Dec 2013, 4:23 am

yes, let god be a myth for some, a mystery for others and a solace for the rest.



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16 Dec 2013, 2:46 pm

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yes, let god be a myth for some, a mystery for others and a solace for the rest.


Thats all well and good unless you use your "personal salvation" story to influence and pressure others into behaving in a manner which fits your new found fanaticism.


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16 Dec 2013, 5:23 pm

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What has your God ever done for you?


Lets see. My parents gave birth to me and raised me. As an adult, I take care of myself. So, nothing.



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16 Dec 2013, 9:34 pm

Well..this was my reality before GOD came into the picture for me..IN JULY AND A MIRACULOUS RECOVERY BY AUGUST...

Sjogren’s Syndrome..Dysautonomia..Vaso Vagal Presyncope..
Fibromyalgia..Congenitally Fused T6 Vertebrae..Congenitally smaller
right shoulder bone as related to Klippel Feil Syndrome..Stenosis
of Neural Canals in the spine..Severe Arthritis of the
spine..Autism Spectrum Disorder ( originally diagnosed with PDDNOS at age 48 instead of Asperger’s syndrome with an historic language development delay until age 4)..
Severe Anxiety..Depression..Mood Lability..Alexithymia..ADHD..
Congenitally Severe deviation of the Nasal Septum..and chronic inflammation
of related mucosa..where the ENT wondered how i could
even breathe through my nose..and nah they don’t
know if that could relieve some of the
facial pain with ENT surgery
or even make
it worse….
Total Human Exhaustion otherwise known as General Adaptation
Syndrome…or more commonly known as a Nervous Breakdown..
Anehedonia..Hypogonadism..Moderate Carpal Tunnel Syndrome..
Severe Chronic Insomnia…
And yes..there are more.. but 19 or so is enough
to list..and these are really
the ones that
can be disabling…
But yah..some of the others ones..
can be kind of painful at times…
But seriously even
though I am
considered permanently disabled
by modern science..
i still feel really great..as long as i have the
freedom to exercise all my accommodations..
for disability…
THANK
GOD
!
for the great ‘ole US OF A..that protects..the citizens..
to accommodate their disabilities..even in ways…
like walking in reverse in SuperWalmart..as my legs used
to go almost totally numb from all them back problems…
when I walked in forward..
If ya have back problems..ya might try it sometime..with
the approval of a physician..and in a safe and cautious…
way!
But i just really want to inspire you whoever you may be..
that life is really great no matter what..
if you can find an accommodation..
for whatever may ail or
challenge
ya..
So God or Whatever..
may
BE
!
Bless..
I
s
ALLISAY
NOW

And yah..that is what the power of GOD can do for Ya..if you only believe in yourself and the greater power that is available to anyone who can...

And nah..Oh God how sad it is..but years can go by before GOD saves your despair or whatever the hell may come...

So it is only grace that I am here to even say this...

So if am reborn a thousand times in a thousand Universes by now..as A cricket..squashed shortly after birth..nothing IS THERE TO DO do but to accept it..from an all powerFUL force that is....

And was it a miracle that i had all this in July and look like this..in the following link..AT 53 YEARS OF AGE..

Ask yourself..about that..IF YOU WILL..but I know IT IS TRUE AS I LIVED IT..EVERY MICROSECOND OF IT...

FOR ME GOD IS TOTALLY NATURAL..BUT A FORCE BEYOND ALL IMAGINATION..AND WITHIN ALL IMAGINATION..2....

AND YES... WHATEVER IT IS..OR WHATEVER YA CALL IT..IT EXISTS..AT LEAST FOR ME....

THE PROOF IS IN WHAT I AM NOW..AND THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE WITNESS TO WHAT WAS BEFORE..IN REAL LIFE....

THERE IS NO QUESTION IN THEIR MIND THAT GOD IS THE FORCE BEHIND IT....

AND AT LEAST FOR SOME IT IS REASON ENOUGH TO BELIEVE IN 'IT'....

GOD THAT IS....

http://katiemiafrederick.com/2013/12/16 ... -activity/

AND I DON'T KNOW IF MANY HAVE EVER HEARD OF THE OLD CHAKRA SAYING THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS DISEASE..ONLY BLOCKAGE OF ENERGY..

WELL AT THIS POINT..THERE IS NO OTHER EXPLANATION FOR ME..AS TO WHY I FEEL LIKE I HAVE AN ORGASM IN EVERY CELL OF MY BODY EVERY SECOND OF EVERY DAY..

AND NO I AM NOT EVEN KIDDING ABOUT THAT ONE....

AND NO IT IS NOT EASY..IT IS LIKE THE CAMEL GOING THROUGH THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE.. IT CAN TAKE EXTREME DISCIPLINE..EXTREME WILL..AND THE GRACE OF GOD TO GET THERE..EVEN IF IT TAKES AN INFINITY OF ONE LIFE NOW..OR MANY MORE TO GET THERE....

I KEPT LISTENING HARD ENOUGH WITHOUT COMPLETELY GIVING UP..TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE GOD ACTUALLY SPOKE TO ME THROUGH NUANCES OF SIGNS AND DIRECTIONS IN LIFE..

THAT ARE BEYOND WORDS..THAT I CAN ONLY DESCRIBE NOW..OTHER THAN THE FEELINGS THAT WERE NOT THERE OF HOPE AND FAITH..AND THE DESTINY THAT FINALLY CAME BACK TO ME LIKE IT INHERENTLY EXISTED BEFORE..WHEN I WAS THREE..LOOKING ACROSS A RIVER OF MY HOME...

BEFORE I FELL TO ALL THE CULTURAL ILLUSIONS..THAT CAN MAKE LIFE A LITERAL HELL..FOR SOME HUMAN BEINGS..INCLUDING ME FOR A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF YEARS..AT LEAST 7..AND MORE...

And yaH.. if i look excited in writing..you might too.. if every cell of your body..was reverberating with a life orgasm explosion of simply living as IS...

AS OPPOSED TO EXPERIENCING THE WORST DOCUMENTED PAIN KNOWN TO MANKIND FOR OVER 60 MONTHS..STRAIGHT..WITH NO RELIEF IN WAKING HOURS....

LIFE IS GREAT..AND YAH..IT CAN BE AS CHALLENGING AS LITERAL HUMAN HELL TOO..

BUT YAH..I GOT SOME RESPECT FOR THE ALL THAT IS GOD..AND NAH..YA WILL NOT EVER..NEVER EVER.. SEE ME DISRESPECTING THE AWESOME POWER FOR FORCE..AS..GOD..AS I KNOW THE DEPTHS OF HUMAN HELL...THAT IS ALSO PART OF THAT SAME AWESOME FORCE....

AS FAR AS I SEE THE ALL THAT IS..IN THE FULL REALITY OF IS..IN MY OWN UNIVERSE..OF REALITY...

BUT BEFORE THIS I HAD NO IDEA..JUST HOW GOOD IT CAN GET..EVEN AT 53..AS I WAS NEVER EVER NEVER EVER...IN A TOTAL STATE OF BLISS AND HEAVEN ..LIKE THIS..!

NOW...
YAH..HEAVEN AND BLISS...THAT THING THAT JESUS PROMISED AS NOW AS THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN..NOT SOME FAIRY TELL AFTER DEATH..IS REAL..AND CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED NOW..NOT LATER...

FOR WHO MAY TRULY SEE..SEEK..AND FIND THE GRACE..AND PERSONAL PATH AND ANSWERS TO TRULY FINALLY GET THERE!
TOTHATPLACECALLEDNIRVANA2!

AND THERE ARE NO FIRM RULES TO GET THERE..AS FAR AS I SEE..

OTHER THAN TRUE WILL UNDER LOVE..WITH HARMING NO OTHER...


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16 Dec 2013, 9:41 pm

the creator enabled me to experience and learn stuff. for better or worse. but I try not to think about the latter... too much.



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16 Dec 2013, 9:58 pm

auntblabby wrote:
the creator enabled me to experience and learn stuff. for better or worse. but I try not to think about the latter... too much.


TRUE..like the movie CONTACT THAT IS INSPIRED BY CARL SAGAN..THAT ends with the statement..Human Beings are capable of incredible dreams and incredible nightmares...

ILLUSIONS CAUSE REAL PAIN...

We are what we feed our minds..

There are some choices we CAN MAKE..TO LITERALLY AVOID HUMAN HELL...

AND YAH..TO VISIT THAT OTHER PLACE 2..NOW..NOT SOME OTHER TIME AND PLACE..NECESSARILY....


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16 Dec 2013, 10:16 pm

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yes, let god be a myth for some, a mystery for others and a solace for the rest.


YAH..WHAT IS GOD..
SO..GOD IS WHAT....


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17 Dec 2013, 1:43 am

aghogday wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
yes, let god be a myth for some, a mystery for others and a solace for the rest.


YAH..WHAT IS GOD..
SO..GOD IS WHAT....


I think "GOD" is a placeholder so people can worship themselves.

You see this in the "gay debate" when say the Episcopalian church decided on a "gay is OK" interpretation of the bible, then people left that religion
because they said their God would not accept gay people.

I think it is them that won't accept gay people, and they went to find another "GOD" that would reinforce their ideas about the world, and let them worship
themselves, and how right they are about the world.

Oh, tell me what I want to hear preacher !



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17 Dec 2013, 1:52 am

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That says a lot of things to me about your current "post outbursts". It's not that every single cell in your body is experiencing an orgasm, it's that you have a hyperactivity thing going on.



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That says a lot of things to me about your current "post outbursts". It's not that every single cell in your body is experiencing an orgasm, it's that you have a hyperactivity thing going on.


Interesting friend..have ya experienced my orgasms..if not i'm not sure how ya came to that conclusion..

I've experienced ADHD my entire..life and I am as calm inside right now..as a butterfly flowing through the sky..

It's not that adrenaline thingy..it is pure euphoric bliss..better than anything you likely can even imagine friend..

As yah...i'm 53 and have likely been in some pretty interesting places that ya haven't visited yet..

But who knows..maybe ya will....

And other than that dude..i have been measured reading at speeds of 10 to 15 times faster than the average..human being..and type about 130 words a minute..

Speed and intensity of what you see here..is in no way reflective of anything of me in reality as far as I feel and never has been..

For example it is a medically documented fact that i DID EXPERIENCE THE WORST PAIN KNOWN TO MANKIND CONSTANTLY DURING EVERY WAKING HOUR FOR OVER 60 MONTHS.

Look at the record if ya like..I've posted at least a million words here in three years..there is no evidence of me being in any pain..anywhere except for where i talked about it logically and calmly...

No whining and crying in the haven or none of that stuff...

But ya see my mind is as strong as steel and ya my body too..now..as that was far far far..from my reality before the last 4 months..

What happened to me friend..is a REAL MIRACLE..NO ONE QUESTIONS THAT WHO KNEW ME 4 MONTHS AGO...IN REAL LIFE..NOT THIS ONLINE FANTASY CRAP....


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