mild autistic disorder vs aspergers

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I never meant to imply that. I love babies and I know all babies have feelings that's why im against abortion against abortion even the fetus can feel. It's not literally what she says but when people mean when they say that. I don't know whether or not she meant it but I know some people do. What I meant was with the way she was describing it was like catastropising people compare things to influence I have to say that they don't have feelings or that their minds are completely blank and they cannot comprehend anything.

Even though babies are not able to express it they can think and feel and comprehend things too.

Basically I thought she was implying something as in the way you thought I was implying something so i asked for clarification.

Last edited by jenisautistic on 30 Jan 2014, 3:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.

what the hell is going on?

Infants do have feelings and are also very intelligent and learn an incredible amount of information in a short time.
A grown autistic person who appears to have infant like behaviors, however, cannot be compared to an infant.
The autistic person was once an infant too and absorbed a lot of information and has a lot of life experience, so to compare that person to an infant is very inaccurate and demonstrates a lack of understanding about what it is like to be low functioning.
With autistic people, behavior does not necessarily reflect what is going on internally, so it's easy to see how such a statement could make one feel uncomfortable, or feel misunderstood.

A pretty good message, but--and I hope you do not mind if I use logic here--a flawed point at the end, as with a baby one does not necessarily know what is going on inside, either. Still, a good message...

But to look at it from a psychological angle, most if not almost all people do not really know what is going on with themselves so have all kinds of stories about it. My entire message, and do not miss the part I wrote to Willard, was in response to the entire message I quoted. I am not talking about anyone specific, but people, including myself, can have these stories about being autistic mixed in with various denial mechanisms and personality disorders and bad habits. Get me on this---biting can be and probably is a habit that has probably in some way been reinforced. One thing that can happen is that people can focus on a something that is in some way true, such as autistic and make it too big in order to not face or see something else. I am talking about autistic encapsulation. This is how it works, and how encapsulation works in general with many people, autistic or not. So if the story about being autistic even if it is true, is used to not see other things or to change the subject, then it becomes a denial mechanism, which is sad, because there is some kind of truth there but it used to avoid another truth that may be even more contextually relevant..It is understandably very important for people, whoever they are, to be seen as people, as unique and individual. However, people compare me to a baby sometimes and I do not make a big deal of it even though I do not like it. People who have an agenda (and everyone does, as in effect this is the way the world works) can appropriate one bit of information and use it to focus from a certain angle. Howvere, in my opinion, the point Sethno was making to Willard is way far more important than the point Jeni was making, as to understand that can help many more people and alleviate much more suffering, though the other point is of some value, too, I do not like seeing someone skip intellectual steps in order to make it.

Jeni, you say you were shocked???

This is what you wrote:



Recently someone in my family compared me to a baby, and I didn't like it at all, but shocked??? Common, now:-)

ok,
to keep this on topic.

what are the differences between aspergers and mild autistic disorder?
and witch one do you like the most?

Okay maybe I did go a little overboard I often times compare myself to young child it's just that I wanted to make sure she was doing it in a way that would say that he had a lot of comprehension and stuff locked away by communication difficulties.

Butt to me it seems like she's pitying him instead of trying to help just because he is unable now does not mean that he is completely helpless as I mentioned before he might be like Carly Fleischmann.

I do get what setheo is trying to say that is bad situation you think you were in right now there's always going to be someone was worse off than you. And inspire to have strength and do things like volunteer. That's what happened to me after the fire. I was volunteered for a program that did similar things for me when I was young and in a bad situation.

ok,
to keep this on topic.

what are the differences between aspergers and mild autistic disorder?
and witch one do you like the most?

Good question. This could be confusing.

Jen wrote:



Jen, you are saying in the above sentence that you do not like babies. Do you realize you are saying this? I know, of course, that this is not what you meant. You are also saying in the above that you know all babies do not have feelings, which obviously is not what you really meant. This is all because you left out a period after the word imply.



Agreed, Different kinds of nuance can be implied and discerned.



Comparing things to influence---that's what everyone does...that;s what you are doing, and according to whatever your own agenda. And sorry but if I had a grown child who needs a male attendant to change his diapers and keep him from biting or whatever, or more than one, that to me would be a catastrophe.



They are able to express it, by crying and biting and cooing and smiling or whatever. You mean they are not able to talk, I assume.



Problem statement for me, as everyone is basically implying something or other, so this is seen to me as over generalized and a way to gloss things over (gloss meaning "to try to conceal or disguise (something embarrassing or unfavorable) by treating it briefly or representing it misleadingly"). You're a teenager and still learning, as we all are, even old folks, so why not take a look at the way you are using language and punctuation and see if you can make the way you say things more clear? We all can benefit by doing that with what we are writing and saying, and also we can strive to look at ideas in a way that is very clear, even if it takes us into some uncomfortable areas emotionally.

sorry, your post overlapped with my previous post...

it's hard to know unless you have had both, each separately ...but just speculating, whatever allows a person to be able to do more and communicate better and be more independent I like best....and who wouldn't???

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what are the differences between aspergers and mild autistic disorder?
and witch one do you like the most?

People with Aspergers generally have a higher verbal IQ and people with HFA have a higher performance IQ.
There have been studies that support this.
Here is a link to one. http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Ad ... ne.0025372
I identify with mild autistic disorder. I have higher PIQ and have a dx of atypical autism but not from an autism expert. I do meet requirements for ASD in DSM 5 in all categories.

Okay that was a fast post usually I read over the posts at least twice and then check everything but this time I didn't.

What I meant to say was that I've been around people with CP Spina bifida and other disorders I've been around people who need their clothes changed everyday Who wear diapers or who needs to be physically carried onto the toilet,who cannot walk ,Who cannot talk.Someone's physical abilities have nothing to do with their degree of helplessness in terms of comprehension. These people with cp in my group in my camp who we're miles ahead of me and academic and intellectually. And now is an a progity school.

There are people Who are really physically handicapped but who are are later known to comprehend much more than people thought they would just had trouble expressing it,again like Carly.

If you want I would like you look at the book out of my mind.

It's may or may not be the best book for explanation but it's one of The books I had most recently read.

I am sure that your ideas about autistic encapsulation are true for you and it would be very interesting to hear your story and how it applies to you and how you came to believe this.
But just because it is true for you does not mean it is true for everybody and you probably already know this. It would be a good idea to explain this in terms of how it applies to yourself and then let other people decide if they can learn something from it.

I'm higher verbal IQ 100.(at least the test do not take much into account times needed for thinking what each word means )
my PIQ can not be counted as it is too much difference per catagree like 10 to 25 difference.
i noticed mild autistic disorder on all my paperwork.

Mild autistic disorder seems to include a wider scope of autistic individuals and IMO is more descriptive.
I also identify with Aspergers in some ways, but I'm not very social or communicative.

Okay, well, I'm talking about things professionals have said in terms of identifying and distinguishing people for diagnosis of autism as compared to diagnosis of Asperger's Syndrome. In terms of observation, many professionals find it difficult-to-impossible to distinguish adults who fit into each category from each other.