The changing racial makeup of America - 1960 to 2060

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Well, first up it is not a good thing. It's also not a bad thing.

Lots of non-whites are currently a minority in their home country. Including, as already discussed, Native Americans...

I think you missed the point of the article.

The fact that people are marrying interracially more often is a sign that people are overall more receptive to different races and different cultures. Which I think is a good thing.

What I worry about is if we all mix so much until eventually we all look exactly the same. That's a bit of a troubling thought. I don't want everyone to look identical.

Meh, mutts are usually way better looking than purebreds, heartier too.

Before I get labeled some sort of neo-nazi, I have to point out that I work with a ton of unskilled Latino laborers, and I have nothing against them as individuals. But I feel I understand them better than the average white American.

Though they may list themselves as "white Hispanic," they don't see themselves as white, and neither would you. They are predominately mestizo. And they don't see me (or you) as one of them. It's clear to them I'm white and they're latino. We can talk about race being a social construct all we want, but at some point, we have to stop being disingenuous.

Referring to oneself as white on a census form is somewhat irrelevant in this context. So you're statistics seem patronizingly simplistic.

But more importantly, regardless of how Americanized a foreign non-white seems to you, they're still well aware of the differences. I think most white Americans are incredibly, incredibly naive. It's an observation, and I feel it's accurate. You can pretend they're as American as you, but it speaks more to your ignorance of their self-identification more so than it does to my heartbreak. And by the time you people realize I'm right, it'll be much too late. Hell, it's already much too late.



What's your point exactly?? I have a deep respect for American Indians. However, the coming of white Europeans spelled the end of their way of life forever. In turn, the coming of a non-white American majority spells the end of our country and culture as we know it forever. If you think this is a good thing, you're in for a big surprise.

More importantly, in the present context, what does a non-white not being the majority in his own country have to do with demographics in ours? I don't care if this isn't PC, it's how I feel, and I feel I'm more knowledgeable than most of you. Most white Americans seem to live in a bubble.

I think you are panicking about nothing...

Being white does not make you more American than a non-white. This is what I meant by "many people already belong to ethnic minorities in their own countries". There are already many millions of Americans who are not part of an ethnic majority.
Non-whites have played a major role in American culture for decades. This is particularly obvious in the music industry.
America was always a country formed by the fusion of many cultures - British, Irish, German, Dutch... what's so bad about having a lot of people of Spanish descent around too?

If you don't want to be labelled as a racist, perhaps you should take a moment to realize that unskilled latinos that you work with are most definitely not a representative sample of the hispanic population. I have lived in several areas with a huge "latino" population, where they spoke perfect English and had skin lighter than any of the European white demographics.



Once again, your ignorance is showing, as is your open bigotry. People of any race or national origin who have been in the US for several generations identify as American, with most paying very little heed to where their grandparents/great grandparents came from. Less than 100 years ago, people made the exact same kind of arguments about the Irish. Their predictions of the fall of US culture have not proven to be even remotely true (unless you count St Patrick's Day as the downfall of American civilization).



The thing you seem to keep forgetting is that the US absorbs every group of immigrants into its culture, and always has. In case you haven't noticed, this country's atmosphere changes rapidly. We are so much different than the way things were in 1776, 1860, 1900, 1945, 1965, 1990, 2000, 2008, 2012, last month. This whole concept some sort forever unchanging American culture on the basis of the color of one's skin is absurd.



How about we break down whites into different races. We have Polish, French, Spanish, German, Jewish people from all across Europe, white hispanic (which you exclude from the white population, which definitely takes a big chunk out of your white majority), Italian, Anglo-Saxon, Irish, Scottish, Scandinavian, whole heaps of mixed race whites, Slavic, Romanian, Baltic, Greek, etc. To separate white out as a different race is ridiculous.

You are the one living in a bubble. Your statements make it quite apparent, and your insistence that you are knowledgable only underscores the point.

I won't deny the existence of racial tensions, but those tensions can and must be overcome. We whites will gradually lose our majority status (not nearly as fast as conservatives seem to believe, though), and nothing will stop that. The best thing we can do is learn acceptance of different races, and convey that same acceptance to other citizens of other ethnicity by means of education.
As for Spokane being cosmopolitan - people in Spokane and the surrounding area regularly beat themselves up for being too conservative and provincial. We tend to have an inferiority complex regarding Seattle. But as Advocate magazine had named Spokane the third most gay friendly city in America, I think it can be argued that our self-loathing is a tad bit overstated.

it makes me chuckle when i read about white americans getting upset about America's declining 'whiteness'.

Nobody asked this guy how he felt?

If you're going to label me for having a difference of opinion regarding immigration, I can't stop you. Regardless, your sample of the hispanic population is far less of an accurate representation than mine.



But don't you see? This is the first time mass immigration has been non-white. You know, I respect black Americans, many of whom still cite racial discrimination to this very day, even though their ancestors have been in this country longer than some white Americans who share in white privilege. If we still haven't gotten past that, what makes you believe a more racially diverse America would be more inclusive? It doesn't surprise me white immigrants assimilated into a predominantly white society, but to assume the same will be true of non-whites is a bit presumptuous.



I agree, to separate whites by "race" (as you phrase it) is quite absurd. So why are you doing it? This is the first time the immigrants have be non-white en mass. How well the melting pot works--when it still hasn't entirely worked for black Americans--will be fascinating to observe.

My take, at the end, it will signal the destruction of American society as we comprehend it. And to pretend that what succeeds it is just as American is silly. By the 1830s, Texas was no longer predominantly Mexican, as it was teeming with gringos. Look what happened.

History repeats itself, fascinating. But, I've said my piece.

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Just because black Americans have been given a raw deal up to modern times doesn't mean that we as a country can't still do right by them. And there's no reason why we can't overcome any racism and accept new Americans, even if they aren't of the same color of skin as many of us. It's not something which we might do, or even should do, rather it's something that we must do if we are to survive as a country.

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Nope. It is presumptuous to assume that the amount of melanin in someone's skin makes them less likely to assimilate.

Most Hispanics I see in pictures look very close to white people, and as I cited before 53.8% self-identify as white.

I work with ones that look like Germans (100% white European looking) from Columbia.

So, it seems like black people are hurt the worse by bringing in tons of white people , giving these white people giving minority status, and preferential treatment, because
they supposedly face discrimination.

If you need to rely on pictures to see what the average Hispanic looks like, then you live in an isolated, sheltered bubble, or an area with minimal Hispanic immigration. Do you think Alberto Gonzales, George Lopez, Eric Estrada, Cheech Marin, etc. "look very close to white people"?

Also, if you think blacks 'supposedly' face discrimination, then you're really out of touch.

Though people here may want to label me a racist, I'm not. My biggest observation is that white people, on the whole, are out of touch and more racially isolated than they realize. They have ideals about a post-racial America, despite their own ignorance.

Humans are all the same. Racism isn't limited to white people. And I feel you guys are way more white-centric than you realize.

As a matter of fact, Latinos will be accepted into the fold of "white" culture when the number of whites decreases years from now, just for the sake of keeping up a white majority. Personally, I think that's rather absurd to worry about such things, but just the same, Latinos will be granted "white privilege" just the same as the Irish, Italians, and Jews were in the 19th century after years of second class citizenship. And as a matter of fact, I could see Cheech Marin as dark skinned white, along with those other guys you named.

They have a European facial structure., so they could be classified as "Hispanic-white". My now dead step father was Italian, and he was pretty dark. Do you count Italians as white ?

Black people definitely face racism. Any honest person would admit that.

You accuse people of being in bubbles, and having ignorance, yet you provide no facts , or specifics on what you fear.