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If he wanted us to fly two planes into the World Trade Center right now, he could make us, and it wouldn't be wrong because He created us from nothing. We're restricted from that because we're not God, but different rules apply when you actually are the absolute standard.

Mark 10:25 ESV / 53 helpful votes

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.”

Estimated net worth of Joel Olsteen is $40 million plus
Joyce Meyer $25 million plus
TJ Jakes $18 million plus
Pat Robertson $50 million plus
Roman Catholic Church < $50 billion

not to mention all the lesser known hucksters/evangellists including Huckabee and Romney

Con men, one and all con women too.

The Vatican has a budget that's slightly lower than that of Harvard University. Skepticism or not, you shouldn't just make sh!t up.

I did not make anything up. And Harvard University is not a religious organization. I do not make anything up. I don't post anything until I fact check it first. I am not a Republican

If you checked it out, then perhaps you're aware of the fact that the revenue of the Vatican is 308 million dollars.

I will revise my numbers for the Roman Catholic church since no one can accurately calculate all of its property, the value of art and relics and investment. It is easily one of the most wealthy entities on earth. You quote $308 million and I know very well it is higher than that. There is one property of the Catholic Church just less than 20 miles from me that is valued at $21 million. That is just a small property in the armpit of NE Indiana. You are trying to sidestep the point of the post. The Catholic church is filthy rich. It is about nothing but wealth. The whole world knows that The leaders of churches and people who make money from spreading the gospel live in direct contradiction to the message they are supposed to be spreading. They are hypocrites. That is the point. Trying to lessen their net value does not change that reality. They do not practice what they preach. They try to reinterpret and redefine what they teach to justify their hypocrisy and you fail to hold them accountable.

Given that the Catholic church has 1.2 billion members, it's not filthy rich. Former pope Benedict XVI, receives monthly pensions of 3,480 dollars. You need to post sources of your claims. The conspiracy theories about massive gold reserves hidden in the Vatican are all BS.

If it's all about money, then you should also explain why 1/4 of the world's healthcare is paid by the Catholic church.

Yeah, this church looks real ritzy.


Or this one.

Very well said

God has the power to do that, but He won't because He promised never to override free will. As I've already stated, a perfect Being doesn't break promises...ever. God can make different decisions, but once He says something, its permanent.

So how does that make it any less horrible?



Joshua was a military leader, not a prophet. Elijah and Elisha don't show up until the time of kings.



The entire city of Jericho was not against god, they were against a large tribe of nomads invading their homeland. Most of the Canaanites had no idea who the jews were. As for sacrificing babies, that was the standard justification of most of the tribes back then. That same argument has been used against the jews plenty of times. And for the record, the canaanites had many different gods in many different locations. Destroying the people of an entire land because of one isolated area only further underscores my point.



There is no such thing as an unchanging standard other than the Bible according to you (despite the fact that the satndards in the Bible change progressivelt throughout the entire book), so this line of reasoning is dead.



I do see a pattern here: a failure to read entire passages in favor of picking out small portions of individual verses and pllying personal interpretations. He did not call Peter Satan, he was referring to Peter's behavior being the work of Satan. The passage about the pharisees was calling out hipocrisy, not the individuals. "Fortelling" communion and Roman invasion have absolutely nothing to do with condemnation.



So "go and sin no more" = condemnation, and the passage in Matthew 18 is saying that suicide would be a better action than harming children. And his mention of Sodom was in reference to their inhospitaly, not their sins.



Are you implying that morality should be determined only by christians and that they have the right to impose it on everyone against their will, despite the fact that Christianity has so many different definitions of morality within it? I believe that "do no harm" is a pretty decent summary of morality, and most people (including most christians) would agree.



So why do keep pretending like you know everything about it?

You really need to start reading the Bible instead of just listening to your pastor or your pals that have their own interpretations.

I can argue scripture with you all day. I was very devote as a youth, and spent more time with my nose in the Bible than I did in school.