The 1% want to ban sleeping in cars

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what i believe we're witnessing is a subtle form of social darwinism. It speaks volumes that governments are willing to spend money on 'anti-homeless devices' like sloped benches or spikes before they will spend it on benevolent solutions like new hostels.

Its a wink and nod to the effect of ''if you can't afford to home yourself, just go and kill yourself".

This is what i mean when i say there is a dwindling barrier between the neo-liberal consensus and fascism.

^^^ That more or less happened to me in France and the Netherlands. When traveling, we were sleeping in our van in a nearly empty parking lot (but overlooking the ocean!) and in the middle of the night cops came to tell us to "go away". Doesn't matter where to, just "go away". This has happened several times. Of course, homeless people can't "go away", they have nowhere to go.

Tons of "real crime!"

Like the nearly 2.1 million contested speeding tickets before civil court judges (around 25% of all civil cases in the US).

Plus more than 1.1 million bankruptcy cases.
Plus the nearly 180,000 illegal immigration cases.
Plus the 160,000 cases on the docket for writing bad checks.
Plus the 29,000 cases of embezzlement.
Plus over 26,000 cases of welfare fraud.

In many parts of the country, 20-30% of city and county civil court cases are debt collection agencies squeezing more blood out already bankrupt people at the taxpayers expense.

And don't get me started on the insane number of drug cases in local, state, and federal civil and criminal courts.

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That is sad.Most homeless are harmless people.I was just talking to my counselor about this,when I was a teenager in LR,Ark a cop told me how they dealt with the "problem"of the homeless.The cops would all pitch in on a bus ticket and send them elsewhere.Now there are too many for them to do this.The Governor and his family supposedly spent the night under a bridge to try and bring attention to the plight of the homeless.There used to be a big homeless camp where the Clinton double wide Library is now.When it was built all those people were displaced.The most homeless I have ever seen was in California along the train tracks around Sacramento.I guess the climate is good.They build what looks like a big nest.
On occasion there may be some that are a threat,my son just went to a small town near Hot Springs and they saw what looked like a large grey rock under a bridge,on looking close it was a dirty grey blanket.Someone called the cops and it turned out the guy under the bridge had just got out of prison,and he really shouldn't have.Not someone you want in a neighbor hood full of kids.
Once when we owned a hay field the neighbor called us to tell us we had squatters,they had set up camp,and were trying to homestead the place.It bothered the neighbor because they were pretty close to his house so we let him deal with it,he didn't call the cops but told them they needed to find another place to camp.Half this county is forestry service or Park,they can legally camp for a certain length of time on public land.If might be ok in the spring or fall.But the summers are hot and buggy and the winters are cold.I guess California would be better,not many bugs at all.

This the stupidest thing I've heard in a long time.

Whether you are homeless or not.

I knew I guy, who earns big money as crane operator/driver all round the country. He used to sleep in his car rather than, renting room, or using hotels.

So long as he is legally parked, I see no problem with it.

Any law which is trying to address a problem indirectly like this is bad legislation.

That is the current moral principle; kick them while their down forces them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. They must be evil to have got themselves into this predicament, at any rate, they think...

That's it exactly...

Yep.

It's also a move to keep the undesirable public, and the public in general, from the public space. You can be in your home, your workplace, or a commercial establishment, or you can be moving - quickly please, no loitering - between them. Don't you know how economically unproductive simply being out in the world is? Can't have that.

It's a sad state of affairs in one of the wealthiest countries in the world,that to some this is home.My daughter took this picture at a park in SF,CA.

If someone is not causing trouble,why can't they sleep in their car?I had a tightwad friend who slept in his on his way to work in the oil field.He was being thrifty.

I remember being in Toronto (in supposedly one of the best cities on Earth) and while heading to the airport at 6am saw homeless sleeping EVERYWHERE, even right in the middle of the sidewalk. I even remember walking right past some woman sleeping right in the middle of the sidewalk on Bay Street on a Sunday morning and a number of other homeless were calmly folding their sleeping bags up like they were finishing a camping trip. What a sad world we live in, especially in a "rich" country with such brutally cold winters!

I agree with this completely, but that's the thing with legislation * don't know why? * is that it tends to deal with issues indirectly. Which ends up only putting a patch on it instead of dealing with the problem itself.