Does irony really exist in every situation?

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LoveNotHate
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19 Apr 2014, 4:35 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
A personal fav. to illustrate:


A prominent California poet who used to give spoken essays on PBS TV happens to be of Salish tribe of that state.

He told of a group of blue eyed white hooligans who noticed his brown native American skin. They responded to him as they did to all brownskinned folks they saw, and hollared at him to "GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM".

This caused him to bend over laughing aloud.

In his words:

"It wasnt a 'hate crime'. It was a crime of irony."


Judging by my experience watching videos at the Indian museum on Washington Mall, and articles I read online about Indians.

It seems white people are what remains DNA-wise of some of these Indian tribes. You will see "white people" explaining their Indian heritage. So, in modern days, white people are "home".

My mom was eligible for free college in my state because 1/8 Indian is enough for the state to provide "reparations" with free tuition. I missed out, because I am only 1/16!


Thats stretching the truth considerably.

Though less than two million Americans are even close to being full blooded Indigenous Americans, the number of Whites, with some Indian blood is indeed in the 40-50 million range. But thats still a minority of Whites.

But on the other hand - some White Americans are worried about "the bronzing of America" because of all of these hispanics crossing the Rio Grande. These Mexican and central and south american migrants are mostly mestizo, or even pure Indian. So the intruders are also "native americans". So in a sense - the Indians ARE taking back America.


I did not mean to stretch anything.

At the Indian museum at the National Mall, the videos are of "white people" describing their Indian tribal heritage. I even read yesterday that the federal government said they would cut off funds to a tribe that was going to stop providing help to ancestors of black slaves of Indians. The ancestors of the slaves stated that the Indians were, "mostly white people".

About your other point, regarding the "Hispanic" people, it may surprise you to know that Hispanic people in the U.S. mostly self-identity as white (53.8% per the last census). People that are "darker" can still be white. Imagine Italians or middle easterners.

I would not say , "taking back America". Because these appear not to be the original tribes that were originally in America. That would like a white person going to a foreign white country and saying , "I am taking back my lands". Just having a common race with people who inhabited the land previously would not mean the land belongs to you.



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19 Apr 2014, 4:59 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
A personal fav. to illustrate:


A prominent California poet who used to give spoken essays on PBS TV happens to be of Salish tribe of that state.

He told of a group of blue eyed white hooligans who noticed his brown native American skin. They responded to him as they did to all brownskinned folks they saw, and hollared at him to "GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM".

This caused him to bend over laughing aloud.

In his words:

"It wasnt a 'hate crime'. It was a crime of irony."


Judging by my experience watching videos at the Indian museum on the Washington Mall, and articles I read online about Indians.

It seems white people are what remains DNA-wise of some of these Indian tribes. You will see "white people" explaining their Indian heritage. So, in modern days, white people are "home".

My mom was eligible for free college in my state because 1/8 Indian is enough for the state to provide "reparations" with free tuition. I missed out, because I am only 1/16!

I've seen blond hair blue eyed Indians here in Oklahoma but I have also seen plenty with dark hair and brown eyes, too.



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20 Apr 2014, 8:56 am

One of my favorite examples of irony is in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcbAU9BzLYk

It's a video for the song Wade In The Water done in a fabulous 5 part harmony.

At the end the lead tells the audience "yall sound beautiful" when actually it is them that sound the most beautiful of all. DRIPPING with irony but a nice compliment to the audience coming from these gifted ladies.