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AspergianMutantt
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21 Apr 2014, 1:24 am

I was homeless for a few years, food was never a problem, but then again I always kept on the move never staying in one place vary long, worked for my meals and I knew how to live off the land when needed. I never begged nor ask for handouts, nor did I bother with homeless shelters (couldnt stand them). thing is most people who become homeless does not know how to survive doing that, and they want to stay close to home (where ever that may be) which makes it harder to survive or find work.


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21 Apr 2014, 4:22 pm

I was taken back by the second article, in which people were offended by the statue of the homeless Jesus. To quote our Lord and Savior: "Foxes have their holes and birds have their nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head."
By Jesus' own words,he was homeless.


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21 Apr 2014, 11:36 pm

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To answer your questions, some governments do have reasons to back up their policies, the Missouri state health department says that hot food cannot be given to beggars cause they don't want people getting food poisoning. The state has food preparation guidelines.


That's the pretend reason. In reality, I doubt the Missouri legislature enacted a law because they were SO worried about homeless people getting food poisoning. The same government that isn't worried about them starving or freezing to death. It's okay they don't have a home, but god forbid someone hands them a hot dog.
The real reason for the law is the same reason I don't put food out for stray cats. I want them to move along.



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21 Apr 2014, 11:40 pm

This!! ! It's easier for them to try to get them to move on than to actually adress the problem. By forbidding people from feeding the homeless, I believe the state has taken on that responsability. I often hear the argument that people don't want tax money to be used for handouts but prefer to leave it to charity/free market.... but when charitable people step in, they are suddenly the bad guys.



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22 Apr 2014, 2:43 am

Look no further than this

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIXI5HNj6XE[/youtube]



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22 Apr 2014, 3:12 am

Wow, deliberately letting people starve is social darwinism. There is also no reason for it in the USA: the calorie availability is above 3600 per person per day. Roughly 50% more than what people need. Also, if people are starving they will do crazy things to get food. Making sure poor people have a decent standard of living is in the interest of non-poor people too, even from a purely selfish point of view.
Also about stray animals: since humans domesticated cats and dogs and the strays are the result of human negligence, I think taking care of stray animals is a collective responsability too. Letting them starve in the cities when humans are the ones who caused it is cruel and unfair.



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22 Apr 2014, 5:08 am

So Lt. Governor Bauer admits he wants poor people to die, so they won't breed. I have to wonder how many far right conservatives think the same sort of thing this guy stupidly said out loud?


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22 Apr 2014, 5:14 am

Oh, just watch the youtube videos titled "republicans say the darndest things". Quite informative of these peopole.



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22 Apr 2014, 11:53 am

I just heard this Easter that Santa Cruz, CA also has made it illegal to give a homeless person a food item downtown.

In the '60s people young and old would have shown up downtown everyday to give food to each other and to strangers until the stupid stupid government got tired and did something more acceptable.

I guess later generations just don't care any more; only interested in booze, drugs, and cheap tuition. Cowards, I guess. Or maybe they tricked the ones with moral fiber into going to waste their lives at war?



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22 Apr 2014, 5:49 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
So Lt. Governor Bauer admits he wants poor people to die, so they won't breed. I have to wonder how many far right conservatives think the same sort of thing this guy stupidly said out loud?


You're not baiting, are you? :shameonyou:


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22 Apr 2014, 7:04 pm

Not at all. Just making an observation.


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23 Apr 2014, 5:07 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
So Lt. Governor Bauer admits he wants poor people to die, so they won't breed. I have to wonder how many far right conservatives think the same sort of thing this guy stupidly said out loud?


IDK, why dont you asks the liberals who tested syphilis on blacks without telling them they were infecting them with it what they think.


http://livefreelivenatural.com/denver-n ... it-public/


This kind of crap is happening all over the country. The NY dicktator was one of the first to popularize this sort of crap actually.



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23 Apr 2014, 5:45 am

Even if the Tuskegee Experiments were conducted by liberals, I'm hardly going to defend it.
And who is the "NY dicktaror" supposed to be?


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24 Apr 2014, 8:09 pm

I found this to be an interesting thread as I find homeless people very easy to talk to, (more so than even my own family). I am also a bit imprudent as I usually give a bit of money depending on the situation. I am not even sure how this happened, but recently I encountered a homeless person, and I now I have been helping him and his girlfriend with buying them clothes, food, and paying for a place to stay while they look for work. (And they actually were, as I was driving them around while they filled out applications.)

My thoughts tend to be more poetic and abstract and less practical. I have to really concentrate and focus to think of things like paying bills, doing laundry and the like, and my brain gets consumed by social or religious issues of the day.

This couple is, as they say in that urban slang, "from the hood". In listening to their life stories, I don't even think that they were taught or shown basic things about filling out an application and the like, so I was trying to help them with that.

Today, I was feeling really sad, and having the sense that I was "pretending" to have the answers as far as this couple is concerned. I probably should not have taken them on, and I find that I make my life seemingly complex while wanting some simplicity...I'm sorry, now I am rambling on.



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24 Apr 2014, 8:42 pm

mattymatt wrote:
I found this to be an interesting thread as I find homeless people very easy to talk to, (more so than even my own family). I am also a bit imprudent as I usually give a bit of money depending on the situation. I am not even sure how this happened, but recently I encountered a homeless person, and I now I have been helping him and his girlfriend with buying them clothes, food, and paying for a place to stay while they look for work. (And they actually were, as I was driving them around while they filled out applications.)

My thoughts tend to be more poetic and abstract and less practical. I have to really concentrate and focus to think of things like paying bills, doing laundry and the like, and my brain gets consumed by social or religious issues of the day.

This couple is, as they say in that urban slang, "from the hood". In listening to their life stories, I don't even think that they were taught or shown basic things about filling out an application and the like, so I was trying to help them with that.

Today, I was feeling really sad, and having the sense that I was "pretending" to have the answers as far as this couple is concerned. I probably should not have taken them on, and I find that I make my life seemingly complex while wanting some simplicity...I'm sorry, now I am rambling on.


You sound like a very decent guy.


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