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14 Apr 2014, 7:07 pm

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"are you on drugs"


To which I would reply, yes I am on all of them...sarcasm of course but I think it would be a good response.


yeah well I kept my mouth shut when I had a run in with the police the other day for not doing anything wrong, guess what they accused me of not being "sociable' :roll: I wonder if they did note it on my pernament record . :chin:


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14 Apr 2014, 10:49 pm

Really, what do you say? It is really easy to tell people what not to say. Don't think there is anything good to say other than "you can do whatever you want, and I am going to leave you alone with your toys now". Or something.



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21 Apr 2014, 4:22 pm

"Whatever do you mean you can't function in the company of others"

To which I retort and I'm being unfashionable here "Lance Armstrong had a aggressive cancer and still won several Tours the France , why can't you recover from yours , again and again it comes back , aren't you trying hard enough ?

To far ?

They don't get it the suicide rates for anxiety are as high as schizophrenia and depression despite what the naysayers may say.


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23 Apr 2014, 3:37 pm

"THE SCREAM painting is soooo funny" yeah about as funny as a testicular cancer diagnosis , one nuts ! Seriously do they even know it's depersonlization disorder and how frightening it can be do they not know the evil eyes created it ? yes I believe it is caused or at a minimum exasperated by past trauma , yes it feels like a coping mechanism , do the evil eyes not realize comments such as "your not very sociable" only worsens the situation , what do the evil eyes want me to do , speak and have them pass judgments that I am a freak or a ret*d , or on drugs :roll:

the eyes have it :wink:


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24 Apr 2014, 7:40 pm

Well I heard some people just the other day talk about it clueless to the paintings meaning, it's so commercialised and corrupted by business it's sickening .


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26 Apr 2014, 11:12 am

About half of those are something you should NEVER say to ANYONE. "Calm down" is a good thing, as long as you're saying it from a sense of love and not a sense of demand, saying it TO someone you love, and oh yeah don't forget that you must say it ONLY TO SOMEONE WHO IS ACYUALLY UPSET! If the human you're talking to replies with "What do you mean calm down I can't calm down," then you say okay I understand and do not react by yelling at them. The last one says you should not ask I'd its your fault. That is completely irresponsible of that author as there is obviously nothing wrong with asking a question, then the human you are talking to can tell you whether or not you did something wrong, you can make up for it if you did or help calm them down other ways if you didn't. Unless they are just upset and not having a panic attack, in which case whether or not it's good to calm down depends on why you are upset. Sometimes severe anxiety is the only way to prevent someone else from doing something very, very bad that will have infinite negative repercussions and cause hatred, such as walking away when it's wrong to do so or cleaning something that needs to not be cleaned because you only have store-bought chemical cleaners that cause cancer and death in the house right now.



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26 Apr 2014, 6:18 pm

"Their shouldn't be disability pensions for people with "mild" psychiatric disorder like anxiety"

Never had it said to my face though have read such ridiculousness on the www , I try not to let those views upset me , in fact I have learned a lesson here, never comment on things your not knowledgeable on , unless you want to appear verrrrry foolish.


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26 Apr 2014, 10:04 pm

aussiebloke wrote:
"Their shouldn't be disability pensions for people with "mild" psychiatric disorder like anxiety"

Never had it said to my face though have read such ridiculousness on the www , I try not to let those views upset me , in fact I have learned a lesson here, never comment on things your not knowledgeable on , unless you want to appear verrrrry foolish.


Most of the people who dismiss things like anxiety and depression as "mild" psychiatric disorders have no idea what it's actually like to deal with them. It's hard to explain to those people as well, because oftentimes they think that suffering from anxiety is the same as just being anxious, for instance. Everyone feels anxious at some point in their lives, but it's not the same as having an anxiety disorder. :roll:



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26 Apr 2014, 10:53 pm

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
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"Their shouldn't be disability pensions for people with "mild" psychiatric disorder like anxiety"

Never had it said to my face though have read such ridiculousness on the www , I try not to let those views upset me , in fact I have learned a lesson here, never comment on things your not knowledgeable on , unless you want to appear verrrrry foolish.


Most of the people who dismiss things like anxiety and depression as "mild" psychiatric disorders have no idea what it's actually like to deal with them. It's hard to explain to those people as well, because oftentimes they think that suffering from anxiety is the same as just being anxious, for instance. Everyone feels anxious at some point in their lives, but it's not the same as having an anxiety disorder. :roll:


well not so sure about depression they seem to be making inroads (lobby groups) anxiety not so much , in fact even I dismissed it, how could anxiety be so bad? I just put down my condition to "brain injury" apprarently anxiety/depression is far higher than the general population.


Another one :

"what do you mean the air conditioner is set to high "

well yes I can function better when it's cold like at the supermarket dairy area, it's called the flight or fight response :roll:

In fact I asked the employment agency if I can work in a supermarket , seems I'm to worthless for a shelf stacker job , never mind they (society) can keep paying my disbaility pension as far as I care :roll:


Do you get DP as well with anxiety ? thanks to beta blocker, oh yeah ! it's not as intense , it's not a cure though it has a dampening effect :D


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29 Apr 2014, 7:11 pm

JUST 7 :wink:

"We only want "experienced" people for that low end job....

Fine I'll do 4 years college for that sh***y job :roll: :roll: :roll:


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01 May 2014, 6:45 pm

" Inspirational disabled people in employment stories"

aka rub your nose in it.

A retort I'm sorry I don't have a fashionable illness like cancer nor a type of brain injury which makes some one slow witted and pleasantly child like , (strategically placed outside the Wall Mart , it invokes a warmedy moment you see warmedy= warm comedy circa 1980's in case your wondering)

And if you think I'm being offensive well no , what is offensive to me is the disability statistics for those with mental problems OZstralia does particularly bad here eg OECD , land of the fair go my eye . :roll:

Also look at the "inclusive" big business who hire the disabled , never a mention of schizophrenia anxiety nor "depression" in fact when you try to do a search on such matters on a business it ends up talking about the depression era ! :roll:


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01 May 2014, 7:51 pm

aussiebloke wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
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"Their shouldn't be disability pensions for people with "mild" psychiatric disorder like anxiety"

Never had it said to my face though have read such ridiculousness on the www , I try not to let those views upset me , in fact I have learned a lesson here, never comment on things your not knowledgeable on , unless you want to appear verrrrry foolish.


Most of the people who dismiss things like anxiety and depression as "mild" psychiatric disorders have no idea what it's actually like to deal with them. It's hard to explain to those people as well, because oftentimes they think that suffering from anxiety is the same as just being anxious, for instance. Everyone feels anxious at some point in their lives, but it's not the same as having an anxiety disorder. :roll:


well not so sure about depression they seem to be making inroads (lobby groups) anxiety not so much , in fact even I dismissed it, how could anxiety be so bad? I just put down my condition to "brain injury" apprarently anxiety/depression is far higher than the general population.


Another one :

"what do you mean the air conditioner is set to high "

well yes I can function better when it's cold like at the supermarket dairy area, it's called the flight or fight response :roll:

In fact I asked the employment agency if I can work in a supermarket , seems I'm to worthless for a shelf stacker job , never mind they (society) can keep paying my disbaility pension as far as I care :roll:


Do you get DP as well with anxiety ? thanks to beta blocker, oh yeah ! it's not as intense , it's not a cure though it has a dampening effect :D


I've met a number of ignorant, backwards people who still think that depression isn't a real problem. Like I mentioned, it's hard to explain to someone what it's like unless they've already experienced it for themselves.

I'm actually kind of surprised that they won't allow you to get a job working in a grocery store. I mean, you'd think that they would prefer it if an able-bodied person got a job rather than living off disability. If you want to work, and you can prove that you can do the work, then they should allow you to!

I've often wondered what beta blockers are like for anxiety. Do they work better than SSRIs?



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01 May 2014, 9:44 pm

^^^^

thank you nice to know you "get it" I just came off an anxiety disorder message board and she swears she sets it at 16 c and says that helps , that's really cold I might try it to. 8)

It's gently raining now :D and the anxiety goes right down , is it because it's cooler ? , cleaner air , more settled weather , less people out and about ? , people being less sociable , that one drives me nuts ! !! all the above ?

Not sure if you read my rant above the outcomes are dismal for those with a mental illness in this country , never mind i'll just stay on disability playing video games :roll:

or go back to Switzerland where their are jobs coming out of peoples bum bum .


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01 May 2014, 9:45 pm

ps yes for me a lot better than ssri's , i'm on a moderate dose , hopefully things will still improve on a higher dose ....


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06 May 2014, 3:30 am

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
aussiebloke wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
aussiebloke wrote:
"Their shouldn't be disability pensions for people with "mild" psychiatric disorder like anxiety"

Never had it said to my face though have read such ridiculousness on the www , I try not to let those views upset me , in fact I have learned a lesson here, never comment on things your not knowledgeable on , unless you want to appear verrrrry foolish.


Most of the people who dismiss things like anxiety and depression as "mild" psychiatric disorders have no idea what it's actually like to deal with them. It's hard to explain to those people as well, because oftentimes they think that suffering from anxiety is the same as just being anxious, for instance. Everyone feels anxious at some point in their lives, but it's not the same as having an anxiety disorder. :roll:


well not so sure about depression they seem to be making inroads (lobby groups) anxiety not so much , in fact even I dismissed it, how could anxiety be so bad? I just put down my condition to "brain injury" apprarently anxiety/depression is far higher than the general population.


Another one :

"what do you mean the air conditioner is set to high "

well yes I can function better when it's cold like at the supermarket dairy area, it's called the flight or fight response :roll:

In fact I asked the employment agency if I can work in a supermarket , seems I'm to worthless for a shelf stacker job , never mind they (society) can keep paying my disbaility pension as far as I care :roll:


Do you get DP as well with anxiety ? thanks to beta blocker, oh yeah ! it's not as intense , it's not a cure though it has a dampening effect :D


I've met a number of ignorant, backwards people who still think that depression isn't a real problem. Like I mentioned, it's hard to explain to someone what it's like unless they've already experienced it for themselves.

I'm actually kind of surprised that they won't allow you to get a job working in a grocery store. I mean, you'd think that they would prefer it if an able-bodied person got a job rather than living off disability. If you want to work, and you can prove that you can do the work, then they should allow you to!

I've often wondered what beta blockers are like for anxiety. Do they work better than SSRIs?



Well I shouldn't let it bother me I know it's not just anxiety sufferers who suffer discrimination , one guy at the soup kitchen has schizophrenia , like myself he doesn't have to look for work, though choses to , for seven years his been with a "disability agency" and what has he to show for it nada , he has a university degree and he does "work experience" pushing a broom aka builders clean at a newly renovated shopping centre , why not call it for what it is exploit the venerable for profit, a job never eventuates :roll:

* before I cracked it , I told the 1/2 wit supervisor the prep area was to stimulatory and asked if I can prepare in another area or clean up when everyone is gone all I got was a "sorry" and your a dill smirk. Nice to know some people get it and are on my side aka gp , said what I was thinking" you would think a church/ charity would be more accommodating" well no they have to many people volunteering already so why would they ? Rejects like myself are screwed if I have to compete for volunteer jobs. :roll:


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