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ASPartOfMe
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23 Apr 2014, 12:08 am

aghogday wrote:
The truth of the matter IS..

The diagnosis of Autism is only an abstract concept of social reciprocation disorder as designed
by the APA in the US...

While the Gillberg Criteria in Sweden fashioned after the actual case studies of Hans Asperger's does FULLY
REFLECT HIS case studies..

HAVE A BETTER DAY NOW!
THAT IS MY HOPE!
FOR
YA!
ALWAYS!
WHO EVER
YA
ARE!
LOVER OR FOE!EVER
NOW!


Most of Aghogday's post deleted for space considerations

Refrigerator Computer Theory.

You are and always were always fully human

Gillberg's Criteria for Aspergers Disorder
http://www.bbbautism.com/asp_gillberg.htm


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23 Apr 2014, 2:35 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
aghogday wrote:
The truth of the matter IS..

The diagnosis of Autism is only an abstract concept of social reciprocation disorder as designed
by the APA in the US...

While the Gillberg Criteria in Sweden fashioned after the actual case studies of Hans Asperger's does FULLY
REFLECT HIS case studies..

HAVE A BETTER DAY NOW!
THAT IS MY HOPE!
FOR
YA!
ALWAYS!
WHO EVER
YA
ARE!
LOVER OR FOE!EVER
NOW!


Most of Aghogday's post deleted for space considerations

Refrigerator Computer Theory.

You are and always were always fully human

Gillberg's Criteria for Aspergers Disorder
http://www.bbbautism.com/asp_gillberg.htm


1) Hyperbole - a couple of hog's posts have been deleted... but I suspect that space was not the issue...
2) Speak for yourself... I am not human... and I choose to revel in that... All of the poetry, prose, essays, etc. that are about the human condition do not seem to apply to me or my experiences... This is not to say that I am better than those that wear that label, for I am all to aware of my own foibles and shortcomings... but I am alien to the human condition and choose to revel in it.


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23 Apr 2014, 2:41 am

vickygleitz wrote:
Okay Hogaday. I have late stage breast cancer. I am dying. Bobby has stage 3 heart failure. He's dying too. I have so many kids and grand kids that I love. Youngest son has neurological pain [ it had slowed down but is back real bad again] that the docs say is the 'most excruciating pain humanly possible" People I thought were friends were not. I have no money and am too sick to work. I am not trying the same thing over and over again and expecting it to be different. I am trying to set things up so that my son [ and others] can have a hope of an okay life. That's all.

It WAS insane for me to just try to be good enough, sweet enough, smart enough, responsible enough, everything enough for nearly 60 years and expect a positive outcome from NTs'. That WAS insane. Now, I'm trying something different. If you don't like the idea of what I am racing against time to do,fine. What possible purpose though for you to rip apart my last hope! That is so mean!

And it's not just me! And if peoples ideas are not ripped apart, they are ignored. Look at Ken G. He posts about so many things that are to benefit other Autistics. Some of them cost money. some of them are far away. Some of them are FREE and anyone can access them. but they are ignored. I guess playing the autism card, hate-wars,and expressing the depth of a persons intellect is so much more important.

So many people have quit WP because of the meanness, and because of the seeming lack of concern as far as supporting and building each other up as autistics. about a month ago, there was a thread pretty much devoted to what a b###h I am, and i stilldo not have a clue what I did wrong.

I am having such a hard time, the hardest time of my life. And I feel so alone. And someone shouts at me that trying to find somewhere my kid might fit in is the worst idea EVER.r

I don't know what else I can say.

For the record... we are often at odds in our opinions... but I have never seen you be a b***h to anyone. Ever... which is more than most of us can say... You have always treated each and every one on here with respect...

There have been threads about how I am supposedly a bully (ironically enough, that started when I tried to help someone)...

I hate to say it... but there is rarely any actual mean-ness here... I have a theory that we are all used to the NT standard behavior of pussyfooting around in conversation... Most of what is interpreted as being mean on this board is people seeing that we are on equal footing with each other and can express ourselves freely... and strident opinions often are worded in a way that comes across as mean...

That is not to say it doesn't happen... for it does... but most of the time, when it really does, it is quashed swiftly and without mercy... mean begets mean...


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24 Apr 2014, 3:08 am

My contribution here is this--in an autistic community, no guilt tripping;-) but we learn that kind of pattern and then do not even realize we are doing it, or at least I did not realize I was doing it until I finally just saw it....and was really shocked, even sickened....that pattern I learned in my family.... So the first goal I think is to be conscious....and also stick to practicalities.... do not confuse doing with pretending...but pretending can be fun....it is play...and of course imagination plays into real doing...and pretending can also a way of trying things out....

I think it should be the aim of any human being who is going to try to make any kind of community for the well being of others, be it an autistic community or a neurodiverse community or any kind of community, to not fall into a nihilistic state but to try to stay goal focused and impartial, so be detached but with love.
Secondly, I suggest not to confuse pretending with reality, so if I want to make a real house, I do not confuse that with making a pretend house, and if I want to make a pretend house, I understand it is play. A lot of smart people tend to poke fun at utopian communities because these kind of endeavors are perceived as overly idealistic and most likely to fail. Personally I thought some of the fun poking was quite delightful and not really mean....

To Vicky, so sorry you are suffering and having great struggles in your life right now, but I would not let this kind of thing get to you....I am thinking of opening my home to people and having some kind of activities here, but for me it is why just autistic people? Many people are alienated...so many people are suffering...and we should all come together and try to help each other out. There is this saying I really like---God helps those who help themselves. If I do help myself by helping other people, then I have to stay in the right frame of mind to be able to do that, so in this sense I am helping both other people and also myself. That is the middle way.