Why domestic violence against men is never taken seriously.

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14 Aug 2014, 2:35 am

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Boo, right, there's good documentation on DV against men, which includes the issue of women fighting back. A major issue is also the question of "how serious is the DV", which I don't really like as a question -- it's all serious -- but it is true that if one partner lands in the hospital or morgue, it's nearly always the woman.

you don't watch news shows about women who kill then do you. it happens enough to keep a show running for years shwoing episodes weekly. it also appears to happen a lot in my state of Oregon. there was also that case of the woman who drove accross states and stabed her ex lover 40ish times then shot him.

One of the issues seldom addressed in these studies -- that I've seen, anyway -- is the question of being trapped. A problem that we saw a lot when I worked on projects for rural uneducated women and their children was that the guys were globally controlling in their lives. They'd make sure the women had no transportation and no money, and stand in the way of their getting any employment or childcare, which meant that the only option the women had for self-defense was physical -- you'd get a generally violent environment. But yes, the women get arrested.

my brothers wife traps him like that and hits him. guess she doubles down oh and don't forget emotional and mental abuse. there's also stealing his needed medicine. maybe I've just had the honor of meeting most of the horrible women.
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It just comes to show women can be as equally hateful and abusive as men but thanks to the patriarchy women are viewed as weak and ridicule male victims of domestic abuse that it is not taken seriously! Even most feminists fail to address the issue primarily because it does not apply to women at this time!


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14 Aug 2014, 11:38 am

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Boo, right, there's good documentation on DV against men, which includes the issue of women fighting back. A major issue is also the question of "how serious is the DV", which I don't really like as a question -- it's all serious -- but it is true that if one partner lands in the hospital or morgue, it's nearly always the woman.

you don't watch news shows about women who kill then do you. it happens enough to keep a show running for years shwoing episodes weekly. it also appears to happen a lot in my state of Oregon. there was also that case of the woman who drove accross states and stabed her ex lover 40ish times then shot him.

One of the issues seldom addressed in these studies -- that I've seen, anyway -- is the question of being trapped. A problem that we saw a lot when I worked on projects for rural uneducated women and their children was that the guys were globally controlling in their lives. They'd make sure the women had no transportation and no money, and stand in the way of their getting any employment or childcare, which meant that the only option the women had for self-defense was physical -- you'd get a generally violent environment. But yes, the women get arrested.

my brothers wife traps him like that and hits him. guess she doubles down oh and don't forget emotional and mental abuse. there's also stealing his needed medicine. maybe I've just had the honor of meeting most of the horrible women.
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hey Sly, please quote properly, or it looks like I said the things you've inserted.

Nobody said that women don't kill or abuse. But the overwhelming proportion of people who wind up dead of domestic abuse are women, killed by men. I think the FBI stat, which comes from hospitals, is 92% women killed by men, 8% men killed by women. Similarly, the people who wind up in the hospital after DV are usually women.

Have you researched any shelters or help for your brother, or encouraged him to call the police?



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14 Aug 2014, 11:51 am

As a practice I'm more courtesy of women then men. I hold doors for them, help them on matters women are typically inept at, and watch my language uness I've heard them use profenity as well. Basically I tread them like ladies at least at first.
Having said that I don't think women are any better or worse than men.
If a woman hit a man just because she thought she could get away with it I'd have no issues with him punching her lights out.


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14 Aug 2014, 1:24 pm

I like to look at the local jail rosters,I do see women being charged with domestic violence.There is a growing awareness about it.
I guess I'm just nosy,one TV station has a "who's been arrested" slideshow on their ap.


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14 Aug 2014, 2:01 pm

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14 Aug 2014, 2:34 pm

What an evil wench.


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14 Aug 2014, 3:06 pm

/\ It seems like she was trying to get him shot.

AspieOtaku, It's possible that looking at this kind of information all the time might give you negative preconceptions going into relationships that might make them more likely to end badly.



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14 Aug 2014, 11:10 pm

tarantella64 wrote:
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tarantella64 wrote:
Boo, right, there's good documentation on DV against men, which includes the issue of women fighting back. A major issue is also the question of "how serious is the DV", which I don't really like as a question -- it's all serious -- but it is true that if one partner lands in the hospital or morgue, it's nearly always the woman.

you don't watch news shows about women who kill then do you. it happens enough to keep a show running for years shwoing episodes weekly. it also appears to happen a lot in my state of Oregon. there was also that case of the woman who drove accross states and stabed her ex lover 40ish times then shot him.

One of the issues seldom addressed in these studies -- that I've seen, anyway -- is the question of being trapped. A problem that we saw a lot when I worked on projects for rural uneducated women and their children was that the guys were globally controlling in their lives. They'd make sure the women had no transportation and no money, and stand in the way of their getting any employment or childcare, which meant that the only option the women had for self-defense was physical -- you'd get a generally violent environment. But yes, the women get arrested.

my brothers wife traps him like that and hits him. guess she doubles down oh and don't forget emotional and mental abuse. there's also stealing his needed medicine. maybe I've just had the honor of meeting most of the horrible women.
......


hey Sly, please quote properly, or it looks like I said the things you've inserted.

Nobody said that women don't kill or abuse. But the overwhelming proportion of people who wind up dead of domestic abuse are women, killed by men. I think the FBI stat, which comes from hospitals, is 92% women killed by men, 8% men killed by women. Similarly, the people who wind up in the hospital after DV are usually women.

Have you researched any shelters or help for your brother, or encouraged him to call the police?


both are common and acceptable quoting. bolding what I said is what separates it. its easier way to address each subject and keep it in order. I don't know how people manage the mini quotes

I think its hard to know the true numbers. If you had asked me 2 years ago I would have said no women abuse men. well there was that girl in middleschool who hit me if I "misbehaved" though I still feel mixed on that even though I know the truth.
women who abuse men mostly goes unspoken about. the show is quite surprising and eye opening.

he won't take help. he feels that due to his ms that no other woman will love him and that even though she does these horrible things she is all he has. she has caused problems with the relationship between them and his daughter, she tries to make him believe we hate him, that his friends hate him. that she is all he has. the police took her once, but only held her for few days despite having a warrant out and then being charged with abuse of a dependent, and other bad charges. she also fought somewhat with the police. both times she been arrested. but the system takes bad people in then lets them out but keeps the people arrested for drugs in. my cousin goes in and out like a revolving door.

he probably right about the no other woman will love him. but at this point shes reducing his life span and enjoyment of life he has left. certainly it would be better to be alone. he doesn't see it that way though.



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14 Aug 2014, 11:37 pm

Stannis wrote:
/\ It seems like she was trying to get him shot.

AspieOtaku, It's possible that looking at this kind of information all the time might give you negative preconceptions going into relationships that might make them more likely to end badly.
Well ever since my abusive relationship from 9 years ago I got PTSD and have trouble trusting most women wanting to jump into a relationship with me, I know its stupid but my flashbacks trigger whenever I am dating a woman and she all of a sudden wants me to move in with her. :( Once in a while even when having sex although it is kinda rare I have flashbacks and cannot concentrate either, ok so the latter was a bit TMI but I felt I had to throw it out there. Bad experiences in life can mess up your psyche pretty good and I slowly starting to learn not everyone is out to get me but it is difficult knowing who loves you and who is out to entrap you into a long and hateful sentence of misery and emotional pain for her personal gain.


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