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21 Aug 2014, 9:57 am

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My gp thinks anxiety and depression are two sides of the same coin , In my experience I think his wrong , why did antidepressants have little to no affect on me ? Yet beta blockers did , strange I went from 180 mg to 360 mg on the BB's and their was no improvement upped it another 180 mg and really noticed the benefits , thank god for the internet I was told in OZtralia you can only go to 360mg , yet in the usa it's 640 mg ! (the dose I'm on )


I experience anxiety separately from depression, although sometimes depression follows anxiety if I exhaust myself from panicking too much. My GP actually thinks I need a to be on a high dose to treat my anxiety. I think he may be right. It depends how much something makes me anxious, like going overseas. I had anxiety over every little thing, all because a massive change was going to happen. I didn't care that much about going anyway. My family put pressure on me to go.


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21 Aug 2014, 4:07 pm

^^^

Hope you get better soon , doubtful anybody could fully recover from severe anxiety and or depression , if you can improve 40% , 50 % 60 % you will be so grateful and will make what you had seem like a walk in the park .


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22 Aug 2014, 12:16 am

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Hope you get better soon , doubtful anybody could fully recover from severe anxiety and or depression , if you can improve 40% , 50 % 60 % you will be so grateful and will make what you had seem like a walk in the park .

Thanks. Yeah. They're not as bad as they used to be.


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22 Aug 2014, 4:56 am

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Post beta blocker I worked out SALT is no good, 1st day salt free and already noticed a good improvement ! yes salt can stimulate the nervous system (adrenalin ) wish the doctors could have told me this :roll:


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22 Aug 2014, 5:15 pm

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Hope you get better soon , doubtful anybody could fully recover from severe anxiety and or depression , if you can improve 40% , 50 % 60 % you will be so grateful and will make what you had seem like a walk in the park .

Thanks. Yeah. They're not as bad as they used to be.


I think before you wrote about the disability pension stay on it why bother , did you know conceited people are rejecting me for volunteer positions (nice to know it's not just me others complain on the www) The disability agency also tell me because I have a short work history I'm not desirable for a part time menial job , what about illiterate Philippine or Sudanese refugees who's only experience is sitting in a camp with a possible questionable past why can they have these jobs and not I ?

You know I've even had builders reject doing a quote as the darlings didn't like my anxiety voice (quivering ?) I wonder if I had the voice of a cerbal palsy, Parkinson or mild retardation would that be more acceptable to them ? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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23 Aug 2014, 10:03 pm

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My gp thinks anxiety and depression are two sides of the same coin , In my experience I think his wrong , why did antidepressants have little to no affect on me ? Yet beta blockers did , strange I went from 180 mg to 360 mg on the BB's and their was no improvement upped it another 180 mg and really noticed the benefits , thank god for the internet I was told in OZtralia you can only go to 360mg , yet in the usa it's 640 mg ! (the dose I'm on )


I experience anxiety separately from depression, although sometimes depression follows anxiety if I exhaust myself from panicking too much. My GP actually thinks I need a to be on a high dose to treat my anxiety. I think he may be right. It depends how much something makes me anxious, like going overseas. I had anxiety over every little thing, all because a massive change was going to happen. I didn't care that much about going anyway. My family put pressure on me to go.


It sounds more like phobias with anxiety , I only have the latter , though do fear of looking silly because of it , having to appear normal for other peoples benefit only makes things 10 X worse is it any wonder most of us want to be left alone 8)

Speaking of discrimination before where you aware Robin Williams (who suicided recently) kept his depression-anxiety - Parkinson under wraps for employment related reasons , it's so sad , hopefully these disabilities will become as fashionable as Cancer , though I doubt it when 50 % are likely to get it , never mind


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24 Aug 2014, 5:02 am

One day salt free

Considerable improvement , how many people would know this can contribute to anxiety , I certainly didn't know , why isn't this information freely available :roll: , anyways keep this in mind you will be surprised how much diet plays a part . 8O


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08 Sep 2014, 7:42 am

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One day salt free

Considerable improvement , how many people would know this can contribute to anxiety , I certainly didn't know , why isn't this information freely available :roll: , anyways keep this in mind you will be surprised how much diet plays a part . 8O


Too much salt for me can lead to seizures and hypoglycemic crashes. I can pick up on food that makes me more anxious - the junk food kind. Mostly my meds do the work to keep the anxiety low. I do get social phobic after my meds wear off.

You know, I got told by Centrelink to go back to my awful psych to fill in this form so I can keep getting my pension. I'll do it but I'm still looking for bipolar diagnosis/treatment. It's going to take ages. I'm going to have to go with the expensive yet nearer psych to me. I've been doing ok lately though have been getting depressed after a short mania wears off. By short I mean almost a week.


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08 Sep 2014, 3:42 pm

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I'll do a write up soon are you familiar with the "blood type diet " apparently O blood type is hyper sensitive to many foods , I have had a good improvement on it , though refuse to eat meat like it recommends , do look at it you may be surprised what it tells you to cut out 8O


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08 Sep 2014, 3:46 pm

After a while Centrelink give up on you , last time I was sent to Health Services Australia the Doctor took one short glance at me and told me to go back to my gp and I thought on that day I presented OK :oops: .
Haven't had contact from Centrelink for perhaps 5 years now .


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09 Sep 2014, 1:32 pm

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Sorry you confused me what did you mean by bank account?
My gp thinks anxiety and depression are two sides of the same coin , In my experience I think his wrong , why did antidepressants have little to no affect on me ? Yet beta blockers did , strange I went from 180 mg to 360 mg on the BB's and their was no improvement upped it another 180 mg and really noticed the benefits , thank god for the internet I was told in OZtralia you can only go to 360mg , yet in the usa it's 640 mg ! (the dose I'm on )


I'm not sure which beta blockers you are on, since you don't say but there are reasons different countries have different regulations for the medications they approve.

If your doctor prescribed 360mg, they probably did so with regard to the context of your overall clinical picture.

Beta Blockers are also used to treat high blood pressure; when I was taking them they were extremely helpful for my constant anxiety but I had to be careful about orthostatic hypotension induced by the medication. That is, the med lowered my blood pressure so much that if I wasn't careful I could pass out when i stood up.

It eventually got to the point that I couldn't take them anymore.

If you are increasing the beta blockers you take without your doctor's knowledge or supervision PLUS embarking on a very low sodium diet I would say you may be asking for trouble. At least get some professional supervision or advice on this one.


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09 Sep 2014, 3:49 pm

^^^^

Inderal , changing my diet helps so much more !

You are right the high dose caused quite a drop in blood pressure , hopefully I can get off them sooner than latter , the side effects took quite a while to kick in .


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11 Sep 2014, 12:13 am

...I keep trying to figure out how to write about something.
Or where i might put it.
Or even what I would title the post?

I can't though. I have no idea how to do it because it seems like... too big of a deal and so inane and ridiculous and like, no one could relate [not in a "i'm so UNIQUE AND SPECIAL" way, but in a "this is so unimportant probably no one else even thinks about it" kind of way.]

I think about this kind of stuff for so long and then bury it because I can't take the energy to try to talk to anyone about it.

I'm posting here because I don't know where else to post, but... I don't even feel like it's about bipolar. I just don't know how to talk about anything important really.

I can't even describe my pain to my rheumatologist with words. Like... I see old stones. or my fingers feel like splinters.

WTF brain.

I supposedly have this large vocabulary and then I can't even talk about anything going on in my own head.

*flops down on couch*

Apparently I'm getting better and better at that frustration tolerance thing though, maybe?

blech


[to clarify I am "officially" DX'd BP, which is why I ran over here to spaz out]


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11 Sep 2014, 12:19 am

Looks like it's going to be 100% 8O

I'll let you know when I do that thread on the blood type diet , I follow it to the letter apart from the corpse eating it recommends I eat lots of low fat meat , it ain't going to happen, thank god :D

I've read a few threads where people are DX with a "mental illness " that turns out to be diet related , usless doctors where of no help even when I told them my skin complaints where nervous related what did they tell me to do put some cream on it :roll: , these jokers went to medical school to tell me that . have a guess what (one of many) symptoms of a allergy/intolerance , skin complaints :roll:


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11 Sep 2014, 12:27 am

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I've read a few threads where people are DX with a "mental illness " that turns out to be diet related


Well, for my part I do need to be on a specific type of diet and it helps with some stuff.

However, several professionals from various organizations seem to think I am moderately to severely nuts [depending on the particular issue] and in this case I would actually tend to agree.

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11 Sep 2014, 12:59 am

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I've read a few threads where people are DX with a "mental illness " that turns out to be diet related


Well, for my part I do need to be on a specific type of diet and it helps with some stuff.

However, several professionals from various organizations seem to think I am moderately to severely nuts [depending on the particular issue] and in this case I would actually tend to agree.

:D


Perhaps the diet doesn't go far enough ? , their may be foods that you would never imagine would agitate your nervous sytem like strawberies (for "o"s ) I think it's a little hit and miss with this blood type diet my suggestion would be to only eat the highly beneficial foods on the "o" diet plan like plums, prunes and sweet potatoe that's all I've been eating the last 2 weeks !

Hope you all get better soon .


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