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23 Aug 2014, 3:07 am

Still very slow tonight. Other sites seem ok. I might restart and see if that helps. Or I might give up in exasperation shortly.



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23 Aug 2014, 8:48 am

I guess she's still restarting.


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23 Aug 2014, 2:35 pm

It's probably just Wrong Planet itself. The website has this CloudFlare system running on it.

The idea is to keep an Aspie forum from being the target of "denial of service" attacks, where someone tries to rapidly throw a lot of posts at the forums faster than is humanly possible, with the intent of crashing it. Because apparently some people really feel like they want to do that to an Aspie forum.

The forum's whole act about "couldn't obtain smiley info" or "post does not exist" or "there was an error posting" is all just to slow things down and make denial of service attacks impossible.

This I finally completely understand. :)

Nothing's broken, it's all intentional... and very slow and frustrating, but the lesser of two evils.

4G means 4th-generation cellular network... it doesn't tell you exactly how fast it is; in fact, different companies have rolled out different 4th generation technologies and some of these are faster than others... but at least whenever you see 4G, you know that it's simply faster than 3rd generation (3G).

8M on the other hand is a literal measure of speed.

Krabo means "8 Mbps" or 8 "Mega-bits" per second, or 8,388,608 bits per second. Which, these days, isn't the very fastest internet speed, but it's very serviceable and very nice to have. You can do just about anything adequately at that speed, short of starting your own website on it with the intent of lots of people using it.

It goes bits, Kilo-bits, Mega-bits, Giga-bits, and then Tera-bits and so on. Each measure is roughly 1,000 times larger than the last, but not exactly 1,000 times larger...

The reason it's 8,388,608 bits per second and not 8,000,000 bits per second is because computers count everything using a base-2 number system (binary: true and false, off and on). So the closest "even" number to a Kilo or 1,000 in computer language is 1024.

So 8 Mbps = 8 x 1024 = 8,192 Kilo-bits per second x 1024 = 8,388,608 bits per second. 8)



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23 Aug 2014, 4:34 pm

I did wonder if M was Mb.

But then I thought G might be Gb, and it didn't seem plausible that technological Finland would have a slower speed than rural NZ.

At the moment it's taking 10-30 seconds to load a page. Other sites seem fractionally slower than usual, but nothing like this. :?



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27 Aug 2014, 12:02 pm

Theta said above all essential things about 8M.


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28 Aug 2014, 4:15 pm

Still going slow here. :?



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28 Aug 2014, 4:32 pm

Probably worth restarting the tablet or calling your service provider if you haven't yet, maybe they're doing some work on the cellular transmitter. :(

Or maybe there's a new major source of electromagnetic interference between you and the cell tower, forcing your tablet and the tower to rebroadcast everything for it to get through. That would take more time.

8M throughout all of Finland, even the rural parts, is great! There are still places here in Washington where the fastest available internet service is less than that. 7 Mbps DSL in our office on the other side of the mountains, for instance.

The Seattle area is super-techy of course, so I'm a little spoiled. I think I have 100 Mbps fiber available to me, although I don't want to pay too much, so I am content with 15 Mbps which is actually the most basic speed they offer.

There's 4G LTE all over the place in the developed areas of the western part of the state, which is the best of phone data service, but I switched carriers to a less-expensive one, and now I have a mix of 4G CDMA (which is not quite as good as LTE) and 3G.



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28 Aug 2014, 4:38 pm

Thanks for the info Theta, but it's WP that's loading slowly. I restarted just in case, but that hasn't helped. Other websites may be fractionally slower (or I could be imagining it) but WP has gone from me being able to chat with several people across several threads, to painfully slow (sometimes a minute to load a page). I saw in the WP forum that jk1 is having the same problem.



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28 Aug 2014, 11:40 pm

I have observed it, too, Moomin, but it never lasts long. A couple of minutes or so.


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29 Aug 2014, 1:23 am

Are you saying I should stick around longer? :P



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29 Aug 2014, 3:16 am

Nah. Couldn't be that, right? :mrgreen:



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29 Aug 2014, 3:19 am

Anyways, sorry, you probably could have figured out that on your own, if one of those things was even the problem to begin with!

That's a good question, not sure what would make one website go particularly slow for only some users.

Does anyone know if WP uses Java or Flash or anything like that?

Could you have any cloud services or anything running on your iPad?



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29 Aug 2014, 6:12 am

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29 Aug 2014, 3:25 pm

Did your number 8 fall over Krabo? Did it have too much vodka? :lol:



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29 Aug 2014, 3:34 pm

How did you make that? Finns yay!


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